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  1. 1st August 2018, 11:22 #1
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    Hammer Contacting Beavertail



    Would this contact concern you?

    If so, would you choose to relieve the hammer or the beavertail?

    Regards,
    Josh
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    Is there peening on the Hammer or Beavertail? If so, I would lightly blend those areas. Some of my 1911s have some hammer to beavertail contact but high on the hammer serrations.
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    Hello,

    It's making contact, scuffing the bluing at the circled contact point.

    Not hard, but irritating.

    Regards,
    Josh
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    Is this while holding the pistol in a firing position, with the grip safety depressed, or when the beavertail is in the SAFE position?

    Who made the gun? Who made the hammer? Who made the beavertail?
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    Hello,

    The beavertail is fully depressed in that picture, and I'm holding the hammer rearward.

    Manufacturer is Fusion.

    The beavertail is a Brown, but it still does it with an STI.

    Regards,
    Josh
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    IMHO you are experiencing the result of mixing parts from different sources. It would not concern me but, if it irritates you, take a Dremel and relieve the notch in the beavertail at the point of contact.
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    Last edited by Hawkmoon; 30th August 2018 at 14:20. Reason: Typo - "notch," not "botch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua M. Smith View Post
    The beavertail is fully depressed in that picture, and I'm holding the hammer rearward.

    Manufacturer is Fusion.

    The beavertail is a Brown, but it still does it with an STI.
    The above has left me thoroughly confused. First it appears you said the beavertail is a Fusion product. Then you say it's a Brown.

    And then you say "it" (the beavertail, or the hammer?) still does it with an STI (beavertail, or hammer?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon View Post
    The above has left me thoroughly confused. First it appears you said the beavertail is a Fusion product. Then you say it's a Brown.

    And then you say "it" (the beavertail, or the hammer?) still does it with an STI (beavertail, or hammer?)
    Hello,

    Sorry; was trying to do that from my phone.

    The Fusion hammer contacts both Brown and STI grip safeties at the circled point.

    I've begun relieving the Brown grip safety with a pillar file as an experiment, and am running the STI. (The STI is very similar to, if not the same as, the Fusion grip safety.)

    The mainspring is standard 23lbs. I've debated taking it up to 25lbs for a couple reasons, but I'm not sure the extra 2lbs would really slow the hammer all that much.

    Regards,
    Josh
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    Contact between hammer and grip safety is normal.
    The slide is driving the hammer back HARD into "overcock."

    A target pistol might have the springs and contact surfaces calibrated so the hammer is just barely brought to full cock in order to preserve a fine sear engagement, but there is some pounding going on in a service pistol.
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    Would this contact concern you?
    It would concern me only if there wasn't any such contact as Jim Watson pointed out in Post #9. That's the way the 1911 was brilliantly designed so that the hammer could be decocked with a single hand. It's all spelled out out in JMB's own words in his patent... https://forum.m1911.org/showthread.p...atent-document ...on page 7, lines 8 through 68 and on page 12, lines 106 through 117 (paragraph 38).
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