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Thread: Ruger's 1911 - It is true gentlefolks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyros
    Also, I expected to hear that the slide would be cast, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
    Where did you see anything to indicate that it's NOT cast?

    Someone posted an article from "Police" magazine that says the FRAME is "barstock." That's obviously ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
    Where did you see anything to indicate that it's NOT cast?

    Someone posted an article from "Police" magazine that says the FRAME is "bar stock." That's obviously ridiculous.
    According to the video the slide is forged from bar stock. The cast frame is made by Pine Tree Manufacturing, a subsidiary of Ruger that has been making 1911 cast frames for others for a long time.
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    I am not a metallurgist, but something tells me that stainless is usually not cast. As I said, I may be wrong, the kids are on vacations, which means my head has received enough noise today to be in partial melt-down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
    Where did you see anything to indicate that it's NOT cast?.
    At 3:57 in the video Rich linked to (post #8), is shown something that is definitely not a raw investment casting. It may be a forging or a piece of bar-stock steel, I have no idea how the two might be told apart.
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    "Bar stock" refers to chunks of steel (or other metal) in lengths, typically (in the U.S.) 10 feet or 20 feet long, and either rectangular or round in cross section. To start with bar stock for a 1911 receiver, you would need lengths of steel that are 1 inch thick by 5 inches high (wide), cut into blocks that are 6-1/2 to 7 inches long. You would then proceed to machine away approximately 75 percent of the metal and leave it on the floor as chips.

    I don't think so.
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    Hawk, I wrote about the slide being bar-stock, not the receiver. The video segment I referred to was about the slide, also.
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    Everything I am seeing says the slide is barstock and the frame is cast. Also have heard the small parts are MIM. Anyone know if that is true?

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    The questions being raised are clarified in the video. It shows molten metal being hand poured into molds for the frame. And, it shows a piece of bar stock prior to being forged into a slide.

    EDIT: jstrange slipped a question in about MIM parts while I was brewing coffee. I don't recall MIM being mentioned in the video.
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    At the Ruger price point, I'd be very surprised if at least some of the small parts weren't MIM.

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