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Thread: .45ACP Armor Piercing Rounds

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    .45ACP Armor Piercing Rounds

    How's it going guys? I just thought I'd share some new bullets I got at a local gun show. I don't know if these classify as illegal for civilians in the US, but they are definitely interesting. . .

    They are called H.E.A.T Dart Tip Rounds. They are advertised as "armor piercing" rounds. I recall seeing a video on .45 armor piercing rounds from Belgium and the two have a similar design.
    The makers and distributors of these bullets claim that they can penetrate solid 1/4th in. thick steel plate and still be lethal on the other end. I'm not too sure how well they do against kevlar, but if anyone is willing to pay for a couple of vests, I'd gladly try them out!

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    Uh......one thing comes to mind.

    Will they feed okay? LOL
    Nice sharp pix ya got there.
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    That looks... scary, for baddies and aluminium frame ramps alike!
    Too many people miss the silver lining because they're expecting gold.
    M. Setter

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekladan
    That looks... scary, for baddies and aluminium frame ramps alike!
    LOL!!

    I didn't think of the ramp damage.
    that might act like a center punch with every feed cycle



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    interesting.

    but even if you could find 'em, why ?
    they'd never go in a pistol of mine.
    cold on ice it's a Deadman's touch...

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    I think I'll be a skeptic on this until I see a successful test. The downrange punch of a .45 ACP round is limited by it's low velocity. With some of the bullet being steel, the mass (not mentioned) is still 230 gr. or less, so energy remains similar to (or less than) a standard .45 ACP. And, it doesn't look, from the pics, as if the core is bonded to the remaining bullet very well, so the core will likely shed the jacket upon impact, thereby reducing the mass of the penetrator. So, this bullet might make a nice dent, but will run out of gas so fast it won't be able to finish the job. Hope you didn't spend much on them and hope you don't have a Commander or other aluminum-framed pistol.

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    And what is the purpose of these rounds? I mean, who in his sane mind would buy these, unless he is an outlaw?
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    Jeepers. I wonder if the pointy part is depleted uranium!
    When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind. [Lord Kelvin]

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    And remember, everyone, these rounds may be illegal where you live.

    DVC
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    I'm wondering if this is a joke. Adding something in the cavity of a normal JHP bullet is usually done because this 'something' is lighter than the rest of the bullet (that's made out of lead), so it slows down faster upon impact than the lead, making the lead deform around it and therefore, expand faster.

    Okay?

    So, the problem: first of all, if you really want to make a bullet that goes through armor, starting with a bullet design that expands upon impact, isn't very clever, because it will need to rip an even bigger hole to go through. Making it a two-part design, with only a small centerpiece going through armor, just doesn't sound right, because you'd think that, being a .45 (i.e. not very fast), it would need all its mass to stay together, if it is to achieve anything. That's why the 5.7x28 mm armor-piercing rounds for FN's pistol and sub-gun duo, are just tiny, pointy rifle-like bullets, travelling really fast.



    I might well be missing something, but I don't believe the rounds shown in the first post to be armor-piercing.
    Too many people miss the silver lining because they're expecting gold.
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