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Thread: How do you shoot a "double tap"?

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    Thank you for the clear concise instruction, i will check out all of your vids as I am interested in shooting in competition.

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    Thankyou for sharing, it was very informative and interesting. A video you have on that photobucket album had you double tap center mass A and fire a third shot into the head of the target, a little low on B, in under 2 seconds. I had thought that stuff was only for movies. Being 20 years old, I have just begun to shoot pistols, and probably have shot no more than 2-300 rounds of .45 ACP, you have given me the aspiration to practice to become that good. As there are, more than likely, steps to work up to that level of achievement, what would you suggest practicing, due to my low level of experience with a pistol?
    Of course the 1911 is an outdated design. It came from an era when weapons were designed to win fights, not to avoid product liability lawsuits.

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    I just watched the video and I have a pair of related questions:
    How do you get your split times so low? I try to follow the front sight during the muzzle flip (but lose it) and as soon as I have the sight again, I take the shot, but you could probably fire a full mag in the time I could do a good double tap. Which leads to the other question:
    When I watch your video and the Todd Jarrett videos on youtube, and the good guys at the local IDPA events, I notice very little muzzle flip. I get lots of muzzle flip. How can I reduce muzzle flip? When I try to hold it too tight, I clench in anticipation and my shots go down and right (I'm a lefty). When I hold it looser, the shots are better, but the muzzle goes up above my head. How can I get a good "mama bear" grip?

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    One more question if you are out there Lurper: What ammunition are you using? At the volumes you shoot it would seem you would not have time to sleep and reload also. However if they are reloads, please describe.
    Can you do the same double tap with 230 gr. +P?
    Thanks.
    Form is Emptiness - Emptiness is Form

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    What ammunition are you using?
    Generally, I alway shoot the same load. In my .45 it is a 178gr lead semi-wadcutter over 6 grains of Bullseye. They have a power factor in the 170+ range (they are major caliber, not whimpy loads). I load on a Dillon 1050, which if I want to be serious will do about 1200 rounds an hour. I used to shoot 500 rnds/day during the week and at least 2 matches each weekend. Now, I shoot about 1500 - 2000/ month.

    Can you do the same double tap with 230 gr. +P?
    Yes, it's the technique not the tool.

    I just watched the video and I have a pair of related questions:
    How do you get your split times so low? I try to follow the front sight during the muzzle flip (but lose it) and as soon as I have the sight again, I take the shot, but you could probably fire a full mag in the time I could do a good double tap. Which leads to the other question:
    When I watch your video and the Todd Jarrett videos on youtube, and the good guys at the local IDPA events, I notice very little muzzle flip. I get lots of muzzle flip. How can I reduce muzzle flip? When I try to hold it too tight, I clench in anticipation and my shots go down and right (I'm a lefty). When I hold it looser, the shots are better, but the muzzle goes up above my head. How can I get a good "mama bear" grip?
    You should strive to have a neutral grip/stance. If you do that, the gun will return to where it started from. Without seeing you shoot, I can't tell you exactly what the problem is, but I would bet that you are not keeping your wrists firm. Keep your wrists firm and elbows relaxed. This will convert most of the upward motion into rearward motion. Tracking the sight takes a lot of practice. One other thing I would check: blinking. Have someone watch your eyes when you shoot. Many people blink when they fire each shot. That's why they lose track of the sight. Try that and let me know how it works.

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    Thanks for this lesson. I have been working on double taps and I think this will help me improve. I think that I have been overcompensating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurper
    You should strive to have a neutral grip/stance. If you do that, the gun will return to where it started from. Without seeing you shoot, I can't tell you exactly what the problem is, but I would bet that you are not keeping your wrists firm. Keep your wrists firm and elbows relaxed. This will convert most of the upward motion into rearward motion. Tracking the sight takes a lot of practice. One other thing I would check: blinking. Have someone watch your eyes when you shoot. Many people blink when they fire each shot. That's why they lose track of the sight. Try that and let me know how it works.
    Wow, nice diagnosis. I normally try to keep my elbows & wrists tight, and the recoil bends my wrists, because my elbows are the stronger joint.
    And yes, I'm a blinker.

    I'll try your suggestions next time I shoot.
    Thanks.

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    Hi

    Simple questions to ask yourself - What's the last thing I saw as I lost the sight? What's the next thing I saw?

    One from personal experience: It's tough to watch the burning powder in the ejected brass *and* to watch the front sight.

    Bob

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    Thumbs up double tap

    thank you very much for the instruction.
    Be well and enjoy!--Alan

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    Dear Lurper,
    Many of the ranges I go to are very conservative with the rules for people practicing to shoot. Many times they say 2 seconds between each shot when I hear someone shooting rapidly. What are your recommendations for finding a good place to practice these techniques? Thanks!
    I do not trust in my bow, my sword does not bring me victory; but you give us victory over our enemies, you put our adversaries to shame. - Psalms 44:6-7

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