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Thread: Winchester .45 FMJ

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    Winchester .45 FMJ

    I recently purchased some Winchester 230 grain FMJ rounds. I was looking for a load to use with them. I found some recipes with Winchester 231 etc, but none using Titegroup or Bullseye. Does anybody here use any of these powders with Winchester 230 gr FMJ, if so, are you willing to post your load? Any help is appreciated.

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    ???

    "Rounds" are loaded cartridges. Did you buy ammunition, or bullets?

    The 2014 Alliant handbook shows a Bullseye load of 5.7 grains (maximum) loaded to a minimum C.O.A.L. of 1.265" for a 230-grain FMJ bullet.Lyman's 50th reloading manual shows a starting load of 3.8 grains and a maximum load of 5.3 grains, at a C.O.A.L. of 1.275".


    For Titegroup, the Hodgdon web site doesn't have a load recipe for a 230-grain FMJ round nose bullet. They do have a load for a 230-grain flat-point. They show a range of 4.4 to 4.8 grains, at a C.O.A.L. of 1.200". The key to adapting load data for use with different bullets of the same weight is knowing the actual seating depth (the amount the bullet projects into the case, which controls the residual case volume and thus the pressure). That's where our bullet comparison spreadsheet comes in.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=519572970

    In general, a flat-point bullet is a FMJ with the tip sliced off. To achieve the same seating depth as a flat-point bullet of the same weight, a FMJ round-nose will have to be loaded to a slightly longer C.O.A.L.

    Unfortunately, Lyman's manual doesn't have a recipe for Titegroup with a 230-grain FMJ bullet.
    Hawkmoon
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    Hello Hawkmoon...I bought bullets. Thanks for the link you provided, that comparison sheet is a big help for future reference. I only looked quickly, but it seems that the Hornady 230 grain FMJ and Winchester 230 grain FMJ are pretty close to one another. I have loaded Hornady FMJs before, I will look a little closer and see if I can work something out. Ultimately, I think that I will just get some Winchester 231 and give it a try. Currently, for my pistol rounds (.38, 9mm & .45), I use three different powders. I don't do this because I like to complicate matters but because of availability in my area, I can usually get one of the three. Since 231 is used for all three calibers, I may drop one of my least favorite of the three and replace it with 231.

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    For what it's worth, Hodgdon HP-38 is the same powder as Winchester 231. If you can't find Win 231 but they have HP-38 ... buy it.
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    Thanks for the info. I am going to try to get some powder tomorrow, hopefully I can find some. Primers are just about impossible to get in my area, to my complete surprise I was able to get some CCI #34 and CCI 200 primers a while back...dumb luck on my part I guess! Everybody is panic buying it seems, I always say buy what you need and a little extra...don't max out your credit card and empty the store in the process!

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    I load 4.4 to 4.5 grains of TiteGroup for my 230gr fmj bullets. Hodgdons has their recommended loads on their site and if I remember right this is what they advise for a "midrange" load.

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