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Thread: M1911 Ball ammo boxes

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    M1911 Ball ammo boxes

    I have seen innumerable images of military M1911 ball ammo 50-round boxes. I just stumbled across a site showing 20-round boxes. This is something I never knew about.

    https://www.ammogarand.com/45acpfrarlot.html

    Does anyone know how these boxes were made? The 50-round boxes were all one piece of cardboard (or heavy paper) and was folded up into a box that didn't need any glue or tape, and that didn't have a separate lid.

    These 20-round boxes sort of look like they might have an inner tray wrapped in an out sleeve, like wooden match boxes. Does anyone know? The ad mentioned that the boxes are sealed. How were they sealed?
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    I have several of those 20 round boxes but never opened one. You pull the cloth tabs at the end to tear open the box. I believe the paper wrapper holds the box together. I seem to remember the interior of the box compartmentalized on one open box I observed, but I might be mistaken.

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    No, you were not mistaken.

    https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...01041405#lg-13

    How heavy is the cardboard? Is it about the same as a cereal box? Lighter? Heavier?

    And can you tell me if there is any sort of cloth/fabric that's easily available today that could be used to simulate those pull tabs? Does the cloth run the full length of the box, or is it just two tabs at the ends?


    Disclaimer: I am NOT gearing up to sell fake ammo boxes. I'm just using some self-isolation time to think about making up photo props for potential future pictures of guns.
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    Last edited by Hawkmoon; 27th April 2020 at 02:06.


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    I'll dig out a box if I can recall where I have some stored. As I recall the cardboard thicker than cereal box material and the cloth strip runs the length of the box. The cloth fairly thin I think; possibly made from grosgrain type ribbon.

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    I’ve had this one for 10+ years. It was a gift from a friend who received it (along with a 1911) from a very old friend of his.

    The old friend brought them home with him after the war.

    As I recall, I believe this ammo is steel cased.

    See my next post for a Pic.
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    Last edited by Rick McC.; 21st May 2020 at 18:32.


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    My apologies for not posting an update. It turns out that there's a person on eBay who has reproduction 20-round and 50-round M1911 ammo boxes for sale. His price is less than what it would cost me to buy just the materials to make up boxes -- and I would have no way to print the label directly onto the 50-round boxes, because the cardboard is too thick to run through either a laser printer or an inkjet. So I bought some.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/theammoboxg...p2047675.l2562

    The 50-round boxes are quite nice. The 20-round boxes, though, have a problem. The end flaps of the originals were apparently glued. Theammoboxguy has an adhesive patch already applied to his, with a removable cover strip over the adhesive. The adhesive doesn't hold. The boxes open up overnight. I haven't done it yet, but I will probably apply a few dabs of carpenter's glue and clamp them overnight to see if that might be more permanent.
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    Here’s the full ammo box I have:

    A303C710-2F9E-4967-89B0-EC1753984746.jpeg
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