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    SARCO Mags

    Purchased this mag from SARCO recently. My question: is SARCO producing these to fulfill a govt contract? I ask this because the CAGE number 8R320 is actually SARCO's. Also I am curious to what the other series of numbers represent? That is the number sequence of: 1005-00-550-8694.
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    Looks like a National Stock Number to this ex GI. Put NSN and a space in front of that number and see what a Google search turns up.
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    I don't believe Sarco ever held a govt contract for 1911 magazines. 1992 the last original packing date I've observed for genuine USGI magazines though some repacks have later dates. These Sarco magazines have only existed a few years to my knowledge. Also, the nomenclature on this Sarco magazine is different and "upside down" compared to genuine magazines.
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    Can we see a side-on picture of this mag?

    Also, do you see any welds on the magazine body? If so, are they on the front or rear side?
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    I have seen how magazines are made, and I very much doubt that Sarco has the facilities to do it. Sarco is, after all, primarily a gun parts liquidator. They mostly sell a mix of used, new-old-stock (i.e. surplus or overstock), and new second-tier manufactured parts. I'm 98% certain that anything they sell under their name is made for them by a subcontractor, not produced in their own facilities.

    Bulletbiter, how did you look up who owns that CAGE code? And what does a CAGE code mean, exactly?

    {Edit to add} When I searched the Internet for Cage code 8R320, I came up with Steen Armament Research. They are in Easton, PA, which is where Sarco is located, but that doesn't mean they are the same company.

    https://www.armyproperty.com/manufacturer/8R320

    https://www.justnsnparts.com/cage-codes/8r320/

    Hmmm ... but both companies are at 50 Hilton Street. I suppose "Sarco" could be an acronym for Steen Armaments Research COmpany. It's news to me -- I've been buying stuff from them for twenty years and I never heard of them as anything other than Sarco.
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    https://govtribe.com/vendors/steen-a...ot-sarco-8r320

    and at the bottom of https://www.sarcoinc.com
    What today is arguably the largest dealer in surplus war material in the country, Sarco (an acronym for Steen Armament Research Company), Inc., of Easton, Pennsylvania, actually began quite humbly in the attic of a small apartment. Charles "Cholly" Steen, the company's founder, recalls his next major expansion came by moving into a barn some years later, and then into his first store, all in the anti-gun state of New Jersey.
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    As far as I can tell SARCO is the same as Steen Armaments Research Company. I will get some other pics of the mag up tomorrow. At work today. CAGE stands for: Commercial and Government Entity program

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    More to the point, Pyrenean's GovTribe link shows that the Government uses SARCO as a source of foreign and obsolete weapons' parts, some non-weapon parts for ceremonial and other purposes etc. I didn't go through all the pages of orders, to see if magazines might be mentioned—mainly because I doubt they'd be mentioned as such.

    I'm still interested about what the magazines are like, mainly in the position of their welds.
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    No welds are evident. The size and location of the witness holes look proper. The drain hole looks similar to old Checkmate mags I have . Let me know if these pictures are sufficient.
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    A quick look through SARCO's website shows this mag and another, very similar-looking one, whose basepad is marked simply '.45ACP':
    https://www.sarcoinc.com/1911-auto-magazine-7-round/

    This product's description goes into some length explaining how these mags are made for/by SARCO. It also mentions the welds being in the back and invisible (I wonder if they're invisible from the inside, too—not that it matters).

    Going back to your magazine's webpage, we see that it's not described as a GI magazine, rather it's a magazine "with GI markings"...

    The 'Colt 1911' magazine mentions parallel feed lips and 'Latest rounded follower design'... I wonder if this goes for yours as well. I'm not aware of the military ever contracting magazines with parallel feed lips and/or anything other than a GI dimpled follower, but Doran is the one to ask for that one.

    (I think the company that came up with curved followers is Metalform--hint-hint)

    More importantly: does the magazine work properly?
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