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Thread: New series 70's being shipped with series 80 hammers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkmoon View Post
    The functional difference is that the notch holds the sear tip captive. The "shelf" doesn't, so the sear could bounce off it.
    That's a good point. I didn't consider that it might bounce.

    Where does the danger actually lie then? Would it be in a dropped gun?

    The series 80 firing pin block is bypassed during firing (and cycling), so I am guessing that hammer follow with a series 80 hammer is not a problem while firing?

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    I played with my S80 OACP and quit worrying about it.
    It would not fire off the "safety stop" ledge and I think the hammer "bouncing" off of it high enough to fire is so unlikely as to not bother me.
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    I replied to this question on another forum and hate to do all the typing again.........

    https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=988454

    As I mentioned in that thread I have a Taurus PT1911 which has the Series 80 mechanical firing pin safety and it does have a true half cock. I wonder if Para, Remington, SIG and others that use the Series 80 mechanical firing pin safety have a half cock or quarter shelf. The only Para I have has LDA trigger, and that is a different animal. It does have the Series 80 mechanical firing pin safety however.
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    Early Para-Ordnance pistols had a funky-looking hammer. I don't have a picture handy but it was weird enough that someone posted a picture of one here and had people guessing what gun it was for. It had a half-cock shelf, non-captive.

    At some point in the mid '00s, Para switched to a conventional-ish hammer -- by which I mean the surfaces the sear engages were conventional, and there was a captive half-cock. My 2009 P18.9 had this hammer, a MIM part. Interestingly, the half-cock is narrowed, which at the time was still seen as a 'novel' touch on higher-end pistols.

    All of these pistols had series-80 style firing pin safeties, of course.
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    As I recall, early PO had the full cock position established by a slot similar to High Standard Supermatic .22s. Also seen on one custom shop's hammers, Behlert, maybe.

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    Hey look, they're still out there:
    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1635730
    Too many people miss the silver lining because they're expecting gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyros View Post
    Hey look, they're still out there:
    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1635730
    Yes. I bought one awhile back as a spare for my early Paras, to be certain I could retain authenticity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyros View Post
    Hey look, they're still out there:
    https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1635730
    That’s nice that they come with the hammer strut and strut pin, already assembled to the hammer.
    "Sights are for the unenlightened."

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