FEG Hi Power project

[Mister Coffee]

The gentleman's name was Dieudonné Saive. JMB was in a class by himself, but Saive was no slouch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieudonné_Saive

The 1911 is a remarkable gun. However, it could be argued that the Hi-Power is an even better design. Except for the trigger. Out of the box, the Hi-Power trigger is good for a combat handgun, and it can be tuned, but not to the degree that 1911 trigger can.

I own 1911s and Hi-Powers. I like other guns, but they don't get to me like 1911s and Hi-Powers.

Cheers.

[Jim Watson]

No doubt about it, M. Saive was a sharp cookie. Not only did he get the BHP on the market, he was the lead designer for the SAFN 49 and I bet he had a lot of influence on the FN FAL.

One smart thing did was to use some Colt/Browning design elements as the 1911 patents expired. He was pretty well locked into the rocking beam sear lever to get past the double column magazine FN pushed Mr Browning to incorporate, and the cam locking reduced moving parts. But to get from the GR to the GP he added a barrel bushing as well as disassembly keyed to the slide stop and a side frame mounted thumb safety, which were before exclusive to Colt.

Trivia: Some years earlier, FN prototyped the Grand Browning which looked just like a 1911 but in the proprietary 9.65mm caliber. Was it scaled down in proportion to the caliber the same as the prototype 9.8mm Colt? I don't know. Neither got any interest, even when somebody at Colt made a .38 ACP barrel after the special order ammo was exhausted.

I wonder if the looseness the OP sees is due to him having a lower cost copy and not an original.

[Mister Coffee]

I wonder if the looseness the OP sees is due to him having a lower cost copy and not an original.

Personally, I would hesitate to comment on "looseness" in a used gun. You may have noticed that guns, for some reason, attract people who like to tinker — even when they have absolutely no knowledge of what they are doing. I believe the expression is "a bubba-up-ed gun." I own five Hi-Powers, and they do not have any looseness in the triggers.

On the subject of FEGs: I don't own any FEGs, but they are said to be good quality clones. With the permission of the Forum and the moderators, I would like to provide this link for further information:

http://highpowercollectors.proboards.com/threads/recent

[texas yankee]

For anyone that has a BHP, or a BHP clone, how tight is the trigger assembly supposed to fit inside the frame? Mine wiggles side to side and the front to back fit is pretty loose, too - part of that may be due to a up pin and \ or trigger axis holes, but it's pretty loose - this link shows a video I took looking down at the trigger assembly into the frame, and from the side at the trigger - https://drive.google.com/open?id=140...Wwx8-DmchwNV2-. I can't believe that there's supposed to be that much space on either side of the trigger assembly - any thoughts??

[Mister Coffee]

^^I agree. It looks loose. And your trigger axis pin has been peened on the right side. That needs to be looked at. Either the trigger axis pin is non-standard and causing the trigger to wiggle, or the trigger axis pin holes in the frame are too big and that is causing the wiggle.

Just guessing from the video, of course. Good luck with it.

[jpusk]

In small arms yes, but the machine guns mounted in airplanes and tanks really won WWII

no way. TWO WORLD WARS

[BHP9]

For anyone that has a BHP, or a BHP clone, how tight is the trigger assembly supposed to fit inside the frame? Mine wiggles side to side and the front to back fit is pretty loose, too - part of that may be due to a up pin and \ or trigger axis holes, but it's pretty loose - this link shows a video I took looking down at the trigger assembly into the frame, and from the side at the trigger - https://drive.google.com/open?id=140...Wwx8-DmchwNV2-. I can't believe that there's supposed to be that much space on either side of the trigger assembly - any thoughts??

You need to look at the trigger and pin and compare them with factory ones. If the hole on the trigger is too big, either bush the trigger and ream to the pin or replace both.

[Mister Coffee]

You need to look at the trigger and pin and compare them with factory ones. If the hole on the trigger is too big, either bush the trigger and ream to the pin or replace both.

Care to elucidate? I've got a trigger axis pin hole on the right side of the frame (Browning HP) that is too big, so the pin "walks" left to right. I'm about to send the gun off to a 'smith, but I'd like to know how this sort of thing might be fixed.

Thanks.

[mightymouse]

Hi Power trigger pins are designed to be driven out right-to-left (the hole in the right side of the frame is smaller than the left). If someone who is unfamiliar with the HP is also determined enough to drive the pin out from left-to-right, the left end of the pin being driven thru the smaller hole on the right side of the frame will enlarge that hole. After that, the pin will likely walk. The peened pin seen in the OP's video is also evidence of a trigger axis pin pounded the wrong way thru.

Some use Loc-Tite to take up the slack, others use multiple coats of modeler's paint applied to the frame hole with a toothpick.

[Mister Coffee]

^^Thanks, mighty.