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Thread: Remington double-stacks versus Para double stacks ??

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    Remington double-stacks versus Para double stacks ??

    I read an American Rifleman article about Remington introducing a line of double-stack 1911s - https://www.americanrifleman.org/art..._campaign=1217 - I know that thr Remingtons are new, but would anyone have any thoughts about the fit \ finish \ quality \ reliability of the new Remington guns versus the Para guns? Thanks !

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    They didn't "introduce" a line of double stack 1911s. They brought back a few of the ParaUSA models they discontinued a couple of years ago. It's too soon to know for certain, but my guess is that the Remingtons will be found to be inferior to the Paras.
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    Ok, I used the wrong word - instead of "introduced", I should have said something like Remington started selling double-stack 1911s like Para used to sell.

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    I don't think there's anything wrong with the word you used. Does it really matter?

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    One of the responders called me on the word introduced - I was just clarifying . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by texas yankee View Post
    One of the responders called me on the word introduced - I was just clarifying . . .
    That would be me. As a quasi professional writer and editor, I have a tendency to react when I see words used that convey potentially the wrong impression. Words are the only medium of communication we have here in Internetland, so if we're all going to be on the same page it's important to use words that convey our thoughts as accurately as possible. "Introduce," in the context of manufactured products, means to bring out and show to the public for the first time. Since Remington bought ParaUSA and was making double stack 1911s previously, and since the "new" 1911s they're bringing out now are basically some of the same exact guns they were selling under the ParaUSA brand name, I don't think it's accurate to say that Remington has "introduced" a line of double stack 1911s. "Re-introduced" might work but, IMHO, "revived" would be a more accurate term.
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    It's still a bit early to say. They do list them on their website, so it's a matter of time before the public forms a view about them.

    As a first impression, I'm a little disappointed that their range of models so far is a bit too... featured. They don't seem to offer a basic range of doublestack models... yet. The closest they come to such a model is this (and ironically, given the remark I just made, it's called 'Enhanced'):
    https://www.remington.com/handguns/m...d-double-stack

    It is priced rather well, for a doublestack, especially since the finish is listed as 'PVD'.
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    I have a Para Pro Custom & also a Rem R1 Ltd double stack, both 45s. The two are nearly identical: The rear sight on the Rem is inscribed 'Para Ord'. The mags are interchangeable but the Rem holds one additional round. The Rem ion bond finish is darker and richer feeling. The Rem has a decent out of the box trigger and has run well from the first to now about 400 rounds. The fit is tight enough but nowhere that of Dan Wesson, but then the Rem came in at slightly less than a grand before rebate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinkFeet View Post
    I have a Para Pro Custom & also a Rem R1 Ltd double stack, both 45s. The two are nearly identical: The rear sight on the Rem is inscribed 'Para Ord'. The mags are interchangeable but the Rem holds one additional round. The Rem ion bond finish is darker and richer feeling. The Rem has a decent out of the box trigger and has run well from the first to now about 400 rounds. The fit is tight enough but nowhere that of Dan Wesson, but then the Rem came in at slightly less than a grand before rebate.
    Does the new Remington double stack use a Clark/Para ramped barrel, or a conventional 1911 barrel?
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    Ramped. Two additional minor differences: The Para came with a plastic trigger, the Rem is aluminum, & the Rem has an thick nushing. But overall, Remington didn't change much.

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