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Thread: Anyone Tried CFE Pistol by Hodgdon?

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    Anyone Tried CFE Pistol by Hodgdon?

    I just got through loading up 50 rounds of 230 gn JHP with CFE Pistol. The CFE stands for copper fouling eraser. Haven't taken it to the range yet, but it is certainly the most consistent measuring powder I have ever used. Once I got the Lee Perfect Powder measure set up, it threw consistently for all 50 rounds. I check every 5 or 10 rounds, depending on powder, and usually have to adjust as the powder measure varies over time. But this time, it maintained the exact weight powder throughout the batch.

    I have used w231, AA #5, and Titegroup. All are good powders, but none as consistent as CFE Pistol. I went to the store to buy some Power Pistol. The guy at the store indicated that they get in PP once in a blue moon, but that everyone seemed to like this CFE Pistol.

    I will take these rounds to the range and let you all know how they shoot.

    Wade

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    When I started reloading last year, I wanted to get PP, but they were out. Got the CFE, and have been using it all along. Measures fine for me. The cases come out pretty dirty (compared to factory), but seems to shoot and chrono fine. I use it for 9mm and .45 ACP in RN and FP, respectively. Was using Berry’s plated bullets, but now using Precision Bullets (coated lead bullets).
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    PCM

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    I haven't gone to CFE Pistol because of the disdain I have for CFE 223. Thousands of rounds with that stuff and can't seem to get consistent loads.
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    ncviking, sorry to hear you have not had good luck. I will try to get to the range this weekend to see how it CFE Pistol shoots.

    Wade

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    I've not tried it because I shoot mostly cast and the CFE is more expensive. It's not worth it to me, and I also don't really understand why copper fouling is a huge deal in non-match barrels and guns.

    Josh

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    So I went to the range today to try out my CFEPistol loads for both 9mm Luger and for .45 Auto. Both loads worked very well. As I noted, it measures very accurately and performed quite tamely. I also believe that there was very little muzzle blast.

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    Do you notice any difference in copper fouling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolyKahr View Post
    So I went to the range today to try out my CFEPistol loads for both 9mm Luger and for .45 Auto. Both loads worked very well. As I noted, it measures very accurately and performed quite tamely. I also believe that there was very little muzzle blast.
    Do you have any specific numbers on accuracy and velocity? "Performed quite tamely" is largely a function of how much powder you used in each load. What most reloaders are concerned with is accuracy and consistent velocity, so we would welcome any chronograph results providing not just velocity, but also extreme spread and standard deviation for your loads.
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    Pyrean, no I did not notice any difference in copper fouling per se, but both pistols were easier to clean. In both cases, several swabs with a cloth were all that was needed. No need to scrub with the brush. Also, there was less powder scattered about the pistol.

    Hawkmoon, sorry to disappoint, but I do not have a chronograph, and while the my target looks subjectively more accurate, I don't have the typical pictures you see in gun reviews of five shot groups. By tamely, I mean that there can be either a snappy feel to the burn rate of the powder, or it can feel like more as a push. I believe part of this effect is the burn rate of a given powder. Whether this is true or not, I don't know. You and others would know a lot more than I do.

    Most of my shooting is defensive shooting, in which you burn through a lot of ammunition. As a result, I got into reloading to reduce the cost of the process. .45 Auto, as you well know, is fairly expensive. But I have noticed that I enjoy building a product that gives me more accuracy than I can deliver, out of a gun that shoots better than I do, at a cheaper price than I can purchase.

    I don't usually give out load data I use on these forums because while it may be working for me, it might not work for you. But, for .45 Auto out of a 5 inch barrel, I used 6.2 gns CFEPistol, with Winchester Large Pistol primers, at OAL of 1.234 inches. Bullet was Hornady 230 gn XTP. Hodgdon gives, for Hornady 230 gn FMJ the following data:

    .451 Bullet Dia, 1,200 OAL, Staring load: 6.0 gn 815 fps 16,000 CUP Ending Load: 6.8, 934 19,800.

    Hope this helps, but I fear I have left a giant hole in the knowledge base. Sorry for that,

    Wade

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