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Thread: Novice to 1911 "collecting"

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    Novice to 1911 "collecting"

    Hey all, I have owned a 1911 since the late 1970's. Back when I was old enough to buy a pistol myself in 1978 I purchased a new series 70 Colt in 45acp. The following year I bought a used, (in like new condition), Colt lightweight commander in 38 super made in 1971.

    However, after my father and 3 uncles passed away over the last 5 years, I inherited 5 Additional 1911's. I am a little confused about one of the mainspring housings. 2 of the 1911's were owned by one uncle, listed below:

    A Colt, commercial model made in 1916, original blue, 80% finish worn off. (But it has a usgi arched mainspring housing with a lanyard ring)

    Also, a Remington UMC frame and slide, (serial number 12xxx, original blue almost 90% worn off) however, it has a flat mainspring housing with the lanyard ring, but it has a diamond pattern knurled surface? There is no doubt it is a vintage part, looks like an old blued part that has turned brown.

    My suspecion is that at one time the 2 mainspring housings were inadvertently switched and the USGI UMC had the "WWII" arched mainspring housing. However, I have never seen a USGI, or 90 year old vintage flat mainspring with a diamond pattern. These 2 pistols were definitely sitting untouched since the 1960's. Any ideas?

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    Welcome to the forum.

    The 1916 Colt should have a flat, uncheckered MSH with lanyard loop as should the Rem-UMC. A checkered flat MSH possibly hand checkered or aftermarket. Could you post photos?

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    Will try to post pictures when I first figure out how to put them on the computer from the camera, then onto this white box. I plan on a complete disassembly for cleaning. From what I have read on the line as well as a couple books, the parts I can see on both of these weapons look like WWI vintage. They both have long triggers, (one is smooth, one has serrations), both have the short grip safety, the slide release and safety are checkered. However, the "commercial" one is all blue except for the MSH, and the UMC only has the slide, barrel, and frame as blue, but the other parts seem to be parked, but worn. If the knurled flat MSH is not factory, it is a real professional job! Again, pics to follow after I figure out the camera, computer marriage... also, no Arsenal rebuild stamping...

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    Hi and welcome to our forum from Northern Italy.

    Collectible "M1911s GI", full size "SIG Sauers" and "CZ sport pistols" have always been among my favourite guns.
    For the range I have owned many different firearms, from bolt action rifles that I still shoot at the range to AKs, from high end "slabsides" to CZs and SIG Sauers; to me nothing like how the CZ fits in your hand, but the P226s are stellar guns that run like clockwork, especially the older West German proofed ones; if one is looking for out-of-the-box accuracy, reliability, and craftsmanship the Sig-Sauer P226 can hardly be beaten.
    I collected firearms for years, until I realized that an ever-taller pile of unneeded guns made my life no happier, so recently I decided to thin my collection and enjoy more what I already owned.
    After about 39 years of guns-ownership and thousands of rounds of ammunition I have been reloading over the years, I still love shooting at the range every single week.

    JMO this is one of the best gun forums among the several I belong to, to me it's quite a learning experience, I hope you'll enjoy your time here.
    Safe shooting.
    Sergio
    Before you start collecting 1911s .... buy books! Don't collect something that you'll be forever making excuses for, be careful not to get drawn to a piece that is not original, and buy the gun not the story.

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