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    Warmrain:

    Kimber used the Swartz system, I'm told, because Colt has a patent on their design. Whether or not that was to get around another patent (maybe the Swartz?), I don't know....

    Colt apparently did evaluate the Swartz system before WWII.

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    Sold my Kimbers. Kimber is going back to internal extractors which will make external extractor guns far less desirable. This will make them worth significantly less. I did like my Gold Combat but it took Kimber 2 returns to get it working properly. I have owned 3 Kimbers with external extractors. All 3 had to be sent back at least 1 time to get them to have less than 10% failure rate. NOT SO GOOD, Eh!! I will say they worked grat after that. I also noticed my CDP Ultra had a sloppy fit! I could move the slide back & forth on the frame!!! They said it was within tolerances. I was told you can't get a tighter fit when using aluminum & Stainless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frampy
    ...I also noticed my CDP Ultra had a sloppy fit! I could move the slide back & forth on the frame!!! They said it was within tolerances. I was told you can't get a tighter fit when using aluminum & Stainless.
    Three Ultra CDPs I've had (2002, 2004, 2005) had a significantly tighter slide to frame fit than my two (~1992,~1995) Colt Stainless Officers...
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    Thanks For Explaining That.All This Time With Three Kimbers thus Equipped I Thought It Was Hit Or Miss On Slide Removal And Assembly.Been Meaning To Research The Firing Pin Stop But It Is Not Shown In The Three Manuals I Have From Kimber

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    Don't confuse the firing pin stop (which holds the firing pin into the slide and is visible from the rear of the slide with the gun assembled and cocked), and the firing pin safety which is part of the Schwartz safety system.

    If you have a series II Kimber (there is a II after the model name on the slide) there should be a discriptive diagram in the owners manual. If not you can down load a manual.
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    Good post. I had heard enough about "safety" issues with Kimber... Will not buy it for sure... They do safety to avoid liability, so not buying thier gun will work perfectly!

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    I love this sight - and Kimbers . . .

    Well, after questions, research and review . . .

    I'll still buy a Kimber.
    I'll still buy a Colt.
    I'll still buy a Springfield.

    The different types of safty systems don't really bother me on the weapons I own.

    In the future, I'll stick with Series-70 systems on Colts and Springfields.
    I don't mind the Kimber system - now that I understand it.
    I won't buy any more Series-80 Colts unless they are used, and l get a really great deal.

    I like Wilson Combat magazines.

    My next purchase will be a sub-compact, stainless/alloy 1911. Any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearboy
    Thanks For Explaining That.All This Time With Three Kimbers thus Equipped I Thought It Was Hit Or Miss On Slide Removal And Assembly.Been Meaning To Research The Firing Pin Stop But It Is Not Shown In The Three Manuals I Have From Kimber
    In the early days the the external extractor it was just a card the placed inside the cover...
    I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N7CAV
    ...I like Wilson Combat magazines.

    My next purchase will be a sub-compact, stainless/alloy 1911. Any suggestions?
    I really like the Wilson Combat magazines I've got too. However I recently purchased a Kimber KimPro Tac-Mag and it is wonderful. I like that the follower is teflon stainless (fully skirted) and that you get three base options (no pad, med. pad, large pad). The run great in my Kimbers and Colts.

    As far as small 1911s, that's all I have. The largest being the Colt Officers pictured under the camera iccon. It has been 100% since NIB. A little heavy for carry at 32 oz., but I carry it anyway.

    I next went to the Kimber Ultra CDPs, bought two, and it has been great as well. One was 100% out of the box, the other 100% after a break-in of about 800. (It started improving at 200 and was near perfect at 600). Well, the second one cracked the alloy frame and Dennis allowed my to put an Eclipse (stainless) frame on it.

    I will probably end up carrying the alloy CDP and using the "Eclipse" version as the range and training pistol.

    I also recently had the opportunity to shoot a new Para LDA 3" all stainless 1911. It was a wonderful pistol and the trigger was very good. I felt it was as accurate as my Kimbers... Though I would choose their SA version.

    I have no experience with Springfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmrain
    I next went to the Kimber Ultra CDPs, bought two, and it has been great as well. One was 100% out of the box, the other 100% after a break-in of about 800. (It started improving at 200 and was near perfect at 600). Well, the second one cracked the alloy frame and Dennis allowed my to put an Eclipse (stainless) frame on it.

    I will probably end up carrying the alloy CDP and using the "Eclipse" version as the range and training pistol.

    Hmmm... Interesting. Thanks for the images - Has there been reportable levels of failure with alloy frames? And if so, is it more typical of smaller pistols?

    The melt look seems to really work for those little guys.
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