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1911A1 finish
Both Harrison's and Clawson's books both state that the finish ona 1911A1 frame and the slide should be the same. Either both parked or both blued.
I can find nothing that states that the shade of the finish should be the same. Question: Can a 1911A1 be correct if both slide and frame are parked and the shade of each is somewhat different? |
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Thanks for this. The sentence on the angles sure calls it right.Thanks for your efforts. I really do appreciate it
So with all that said, I am assuming my slide/frame is correct. Everything else is. Quote:
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Color mismatch
Scott,
What serial number ranges for R-R do you have recorded with color differentiations? I have 179454x with a darker slide and I have seen a few others in the same range with a similar pattern. The small parts all approximate the color of the slide. I'll try to get some pics if you're interested. |
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I used to have an original finish Remington Rand that had a perfect match of the slide and frame on the left side, but on the right side the frame was noticeably lighter in color than the slide. Yup, the finish on the frame actually was a slightly different color on each side. I assume it was due to long-term storage and the preservative oils used by somebody.
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1793xxx and 1807xxx appear to match almost perfectly in slide and frame color as you look at them at first glance. However, if you cock them around at different angles in the light, you can almost see a slightly darker appearance to the slides.
1400xxx and 1496xxx seem to match perfectly. However again, if you cock them around in the right lighting, you can almost always convince yourself of a slight difference...and there may be. The earliest Rem Rands I've observed that way are some of the 2nd logo Du-Lite guns that have the large NO. Prefix and s/n stamped after finish. These slides do not have the hardened slide stop notch and were clearly produced and finished earlier than some of the frames. The surface prep on the frames on some of these pistols is noticeably rougher, presumably because the prep was generally being done for parkerized guns by that time. But, blued frames were required to go with the blued slides produced earlier. The difference in surface prep and as to when the parts were finished I believe accounts for some slight differences in appearance. I've also seen a slight difference in the early parkerized pistols, again probably due to the surface prep being done on them at the time guns were still also being Du-Lite blued. There is always an overlap of parts at any transition point in production. These guns seem to extend into late 1943-early 1944. Also, on the late 1945 guns, a difference can often be seen in the real light gray/green finishes of the slides and frames. From about 2005xxx on, slides will show Blanchard "swirl" grinding marks on them. I believe at least part of the perceived difference in color on some of these guns is due to the different grinding technique, and the way the light hits it when viewing it. The Blanchard finish grinding appears to get rougher the later you go into 1945. And there seems to be more difference in the colors too. I don't believe Rem Rand was using two different finishes at the same time. I think it all has to do with the surface prep as to how the same finish looks on the various guns. I need to reiterate that the color differences on original matching Remington Rand pistols is very slight. They all will generally match. Normally, it's only at certain viewing angles that the differences can be seen. If there's more than a slight difference, it requires a much better look to verify originality. Look at the P proofs and the wear patterns at that point. |
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RPM How about some pics of the gun with the slight shade variance.
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