O.K., I thought I just posted this but for some reason it seemed to drop off...

I just returned from my first range outing with my 4" SF. I love this pistol. It is finished much nicer than my other 1911's in this price range.

The Good: This pistol can shoot. A series of ragged holes in a number of bullseye targets at 15 yards. Sights seem to be regulated to 6 O'Clock and all rounds impact about 3" high at this distance. Not bad! Sights were centered on the slide and the windage was perfect! Trigger had a small amount of take-up and then broke cleanly at about four pounds. Again, not too bad! As best as I can tell, there were no weapon-related malfunctions. (now see The Bad below)

The Bad: For some strange reason, my SF had continual problems with my virtually new Wilson 47 D's. I ran twelve of these mags loaded with 8 rounds of good quality hardball through the gun and EVERY MAG had problems feeding the second round. The first round chambered without issue whether I used the "slingshot" method or the slide lock. The problem was with the second round in every one of these mags. The second round appeared to have shifted a little forward and was on a horizontal angle, preventing the slide from closing. I am not sure if the second round shifted after firing the first round in each mag or the slide actually repositioned the round in this awkward angle....

I also ran twelve WOLFF 8 round mags through my SF with absolutely NO PROBLEMS. Different follower and perhaps stronger spring? Moderator: if you choose to move this discussion to a more appropriate section, I understand) By the way, the EB supplied mag worked fine.

Please share your thoughts and suggestions on these problems. I love this pistol and I really do not want to dump these new Wilson mags. By the way, these same Wilsons worked fine in my LB Concept VII using the same hardball ammo.

Thanks!

321 Harley

Try the mags with 7 rounds and see if it still jams.. I got a feeling it wont.

HiBud:

The only seven round mag which did not jam was the stock EB which came with the gun. All other Wilsons, even one ETM jammed on the second round, not matter how many rounds were in them initially. It seemed to my untrained eye that maybe the second round may have "walked" forwarded just enough to jam.

Thanks!
Harley

I have noticed some new 47ds do this and its weaksprings and follower tilt.. but i only noticed it on fully loaded 8 rounders with 7 rounds mine were fine

What Bud said.......

There are more problems misdiagnosed because of weak Wilson springs on the 47D's. Folks think they're the end all of magazines and look for other problems. They make a great tube, but the guts stink. Add a Tripp conversion kit and your problems will go away. BUT...as long as I'm carrying a seven round mag, I prefer a flush fit. The best combo I've found ever is McCormick Power Mags with the Tripp kit.

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Thanks guys, your input is very important to me! I would like to keep the 8 round capability if possible with these 47D's, would you suggest I try extra power WOLFF springs in them with the standard follower first, before changing out to a TRIPP kit or another set up?

Thanks again from a grateful newbie!

Harley,

8 Round Chip Mccormick power mags, run perfect in my Ed Browns, i have had problems with Wilson's as well, get the CMC powermags and all will be right....

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Thanks very much for the advice....I am going to experiment with the CMC Powermags, and Tripp's mags as well. My SIG (1911) seems to like the Wilsons but all other pistols did not! It seems the springs in the Wilsons may be a little weak....

Chip Mccormick power mags....