I am thinking about getting a Kimber Team Match II and a Doctor Sight. Would you guys recommend taking off the rear sight off and install the Docter Sight yourself?

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Do many people put red sights on their 1911's? I guess only mainly for competition...

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Most probably yes, only for competition.

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Have you seen this thing?

http://www.docter-germany.com/

under DocterSight

What do you think of this? You think that will withstand .38 Super's recoil?

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I do not know, I've never used optical sights, but the technology is similar to the old Bushnell HoloSight. Germans are usually good at building things like that, so I guess it should be OK, don't quote me on that though, I just have no idea.

Rgds

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Ok, I won't hold you to it...I do trust German products but my natural instinct told me that thing on top of a slide must be taking huge punishment not to mention a sophisticated electronics...but again, it is quite a nice unit which will save hundreds compare to have to drill and tap the frame by a gunsmith...I might give it a try and let you know...

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If you do a Product Test Report, I promise I'll put it in the right place in M1911.ORG. Go for it partner!

Rgds

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Hi Iceman

I had a frame mounted red dot on a 40SW - no problems with recoil. I also had a slide mounted red dot on a 45 ACP 1911 - no problems with recoil.

I now use a B-Square mount for a red dot on a 1911 .38 Super. I went with the B-Square because I didn't need to drill and tap the frame or slide and I can take it off in about 2 minutes and use iron sights (and it maintains zero when I put it back on). It only cost about $45, as well.

The B-Square mount uses a weaver rail set up - so it's quite flexible as far as which red dot or scope sights can be stuck on top of it. Because my batteries died in the ass (as you Yanks, say) one day half way through a comp, it was good just to be able to quickly dismount the red dot and go with the iron sights.

When you're over 55, red dots are great!

Cheers from Oz

Sifu Davo

Hello from OZ!

Have you seem these DocterSights?

http://www.docter-germany.com/

They go directly into the rear sight and mount directly on the slide...interesting but I am unsure of reliability...what you think?

So how do you mount your BSquare mount without drill and tap your frame?

Thanks mate!

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Hi Iceman

The B-Square mount is held in place by a specially modified slide stop lever, plus it has two grub screws that hold it firmly against the frame (one against the trigger guard and one against the underside of the frame towards the muzzle). The mount fits snugly over the frame and the slide stop and grub screws exert tension to hold it firm.

I haven't seen the Docter sights on a pistol yet - most IPSC shooters over here use frame mounts and other brands seem to be more popular. Having said that, if my old frame mounted red dot could stand up to .45 ACP recoil, I don't think there should be a problem with the Docter as they're designed to withstand some huge amount of G-Force (I think it's about 900 Gs or even more). After all, they are made by the best German engineers - the same people who brought us BMW, Mercedes Benz, Leupold, Zeiss etc.

Cheers

Sifu Davo