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Old 20th June 2004, 20:46
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trigger play

Hello everyone.

my problem is that there is some play in my trigger before the trigger makes solid contact and then proceeds to fire. the trigger will move a little under an 1/8th of an inch before the slack is taken up.

so my question is this. is there a way to adjust it to take out the slack so the trigger is nice and solid from the point you put any type of pressure on the trigger? and if not what is the best way to fix the slack?

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If your trigger has the little tabs on the front of the bow, then you can easily adjust the pretravel. Just bend them out a little and they will stop the trigger from going forward. Word of caution: your trigger must have a little pretravel to make sure it resets properly. Bend those tabs a little at a time and try it. If your trigger doesn't have the tabs, you can replace it with one that does.

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Howdy DorkFace,


The pre-travel in your pistol sounds a little excessive, but not too bad.
You don't want zero pre-travel. Most smiths set it at a minimum of .040
inch. I like a little more for a pure gamer or target pistol, and a tenth of an inch doesn't bother me at all on a carry gun. .060-.075 inch is good,
but I could live with an eighth with a little familiarization and practice.


Your pre-travel is due to a tolerance stacking issue, and about all you can do is: Fit a custom trigger that has a provision for adjusting it.
Try to find a trigger that's longer from the area behind the shoe to the
stirrup..or... Have a smith silver-solder a shim to the rear of the stirrup.
Note: Not all aftermarket, gunsmith-fit triggers have the provision for pre-travel adjustment.

It's also entirely possible that your original trigger is out of spec. (Short)

Can you detail-strip the gun?

Standin' by...(Back on tomorrow early A.M.)

Tuner

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If your trigger has the little tabs on the front of the bow, then you can easily adjust the pretravel. Just bend them out a little and they will stop the trigger from going forward. Word of caution: your trigger must have a little pretravel to make sure it resets properly. Bend those tabs a little at a time and try it. If your trigger doesn't have the tabs, you can replace it with one that does.

Could we have a picture showing those tabs you refer to here? I am not sure I've ever seen them.

Tnx and rgds
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take up tabs

they are the tabs below the front of the trigger bow.

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take up tabs

they are the tabs below the front of the trigger bow.

-kotonk

Thanks kotonk,

Are these the tabs we are talking about?



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Old 21st June 2004, 03:22
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Howdy DorkFace,


The pre-travel in your pistol sounds a little excessive, but not too bad.
You don't want zero pre-travel. Most smiths set it at a minimum of .040
inch. I like a little more for a pure gamer or target pistol, and a tenth of an inch doesn't bother me at all on a carry gun. .060-.075 inch is good,
but I could live with an eighth with a little familiarization and practice.


Your pre-travel is due to a tolerance stacking issue, and about all you can do is: Fit a custom trigger that has a provision for adjusting it.
Try to find a trigger that's longer from the area behind the shoe to the
stirrup..or... Have a smith silver-solder a shim to the rear of the stirrup.
Note: Not all aftermarket, gunsmith-fit triggers have the provision for pre-travel adjustment.

It's also entirely possible that your original trigger is out of spec. (Short)

Can you detail-strip the gun?

Standin' by...(Back on tomorrow early A.M.)

Tuner


well thanks for all the info everyone. its been a very informative post. but i feel dumb now because i broke out a measuring tape to find out my exact travel and it was only 1/16th of an in which is .0625 which is with in spec it seems. i guess i feared the worst hehe.

but hopefully this information can help someone else along the way because before i posted i did a search and didnt come up with anything.

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Are these the tabs we are talking about?


yes, those are the tabs.

-kotonk

 



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