I just picked up a Wilson Combat How To Shoot 1911 DVD and in the video, Bill Wilson tests his ULTIMA-LUBE on an automotive bearing test machine. He compares WD-40, Hoppes, and Break Free to his oil on this machine which he coats with oil and scores a bearing. The Wilson stuff seemed to have reduced all friction and wear on the bearing being tested. Has GUNBUTTER ever been tested and compared to other oils in this fashion?

Don't know about Gun Butter, but I don't know that the automotive bearing test is a valid test for firearms lubes. If firearms worked the same as engine bearings we would all be using 10W-40.

A bearing tester tests lubrication of a clean bearing at a steady rate. Not one caked with gunpowder residue cycling in short bursts at a high rate of speed.

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Duh! I wonder which one has the highest viscosity?? Irrevalent test in my opinion - comparing apples oranges grapes.

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Lets get this straight now, a Bill Wilson video, a Bill Wilson product, and you think the results would show anything different why?????!!!!!!!

Hi

Any time you see a lubricant being compared to WD-40 you *know* what's going to happen. WD-40 is a great cleaner and has really poor lubrication properties.

Bob

I understand the test, but I gotta agree, it is a little one sided, would Bill Wilson ever show a product of his that didn't work. Not to mention as someone has already said, albeit both the bearing and a handgun exhibit mechanical heat from friction, that is the only similarity. The moving parts move in a completely different way, the materials are of a different design, the stresses in an engine bearing are slow start, continuous with no sudden stops, starts, and reverses of direction.

I have to agree that the test is irrelevant, if you want to test a gun lubricant, then get a gun, lubricate it with whatever you want to lube it with, drop it in the water, then the mud, then put about 500 rounds through it and see where the failure(s) might be if there are any.

Hi

Normally the military can be counted on to have a qualification procedure for anything they decide to buy. You can debate about weather it's right or wrong, but they have a procedure.

I have never seen the procedure for qualifying a new military small arms lubricant. As best I can tell it's "issue it to the troops and see what happens". Somehow that doesn't seem right ...

If there really is a more formal procedure that might be a good place to start your testing of a new pistol lube.

Bob

There are some similarities ,the piston doesnt make a circle and Oil quality affects them too,I dont know whether the test is actually relevant to auto-pistols, but If they ever find an automotive lubricant that stops 100% of friction wear in metals I'd bloody well try it!

We need someone to volunteer to put the stuff in their car motor and see how it works........lol!!!

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