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16th June 2006, 18:25

Omnix

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Unhappy With Ciener

I own two M1911A1's. I have a Rock Island Armory Government Model and a Charles Daly Target model. The Ciener kit fit on my Daly, but I could not get the magazine catch pin to go in on the Rock Island Armory.

I was using Remington High Velocity Ammo and after the first clip, I had a lot of misfires with my Charles Daly. I could see where the shell casing was dented from the firing pin but the round did not go off.

I felt that his was a total waste of money.

23rd June 2006, 11:04

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Ceiner

Ceiner offers NO customer service. I have had them slam the phone in my ear while I was politely asking a question.

23rd June 2006, 11:06

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Originally Posted by pinshooter

Ceiner offers NO customer service. I have had them slam the phone in my ear while I was politely asking a question.

They answered the phone?

You must really rate highly ... most unhappy customers don't get that far.

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3rd July 2006, 00:09

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Originally Posted by Omnix

I'm not sure what a "magazine catch pin" is.
The two most likely sources of misfires are a weak mainspring and the slide not returning completely into battery. I would clean the gun and lube it generously (Ciener recommends 5 wt synthetic motor oil) and then test fire. If the misfires persist, try pushing the slide into battery with your thumb before firing a shot. If this is the problem it will most likely solve itself as the conversion wears in. A new stock 23 lb mainspring is cheap and easy to install if the above procedure fails.
I had a Ciener conversion that had cycling problems due to a snug slide to frame fit. This was cured by installing the kit on a frame which provided a loose fit. I never experienced any ignition problems in the 1000 or so rounds I fired through it. I sold it and bought a Marvel long slide because I needed more accuracy that 2.5 in at 25 yds.

3rd August 2006, 22:19

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Ceiner is beneath contempt. The only people who have anything good to say about him are the people he pays advertising dollars to. It is not just him either , his products are of very poor quality and his customer service is below zero. Offensive is the best discription of having to deal with this person (scratch that I won't insult people by lumping them in the same catagory as this....this...this)

3rd August 2006, 22:48

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I disagree. The Ciener kit I bought was of acceptable quality (it was the cheapest I could find) and worked flawlessly on a stock frame with high velocity ammo. The mags were of exceptional quality and much better than the ones I got with my $390 Marvel conversion. My only gripe was that it would only group about 2.5 in at 25 yds. This can be a problem when you are shooting at 3 in targets.
I did call him once with a reliability problem, and apparently got lucky as the boss answered the phone. He answered my questions and recommended a solution which worked. I guess I just got lucky.

5th August 2006, 17:26

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You may try to file down the breech end of that block that has the hole in it under the barrel just a little bit and you may find it will fit your RIA.

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