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29th April 2006, 16:05
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Colt Gold Cup Trophy or Gold Cup National Match?
Trophy is NIB from reputable dealer I have done business with for $975
National Match is from local dealer and is reported to be a 9.5+ original box and manual. Both are stainless. I don't know what the difference is between the National Match and the Trophy...? Which is the preferred?
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29th April 2006, 16:34
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I am not sure about the differences, but I had a dealer tell me today that Colt is going to stop making civilian pistols so you better buy both. You don't think he was trying to scare me into buying a Colt from him? Nah!
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29th April 2006, 17:13
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There is not much differences from the National Matches from the Trophy (keeping in mine if it is a Series 70 or 80). Minor stuff like the triggers are different but function and accuracy are very close. Dealers have been telling me Colt has been out of business for the past 8 years. Funny I have two Colts made in 2005. I have found dealers really trashing Colts here lately (where none are in stock) then in the same breath explain to me why Kimber is the best 1911 that has ever been made and cannot be beat while showing me a cabinet slam full of Kimbers. I have learned that most gun dealers cannot be trusted and will lie to you in order to make a profit. Sad actually.
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29th April 2006, 17:24
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I just p/u a LNIB 80 GCNM in SS and it was close to the price your dealer is asking for the Trophy. I also got a 1991A1 LNIB also and it was a better deal.
I think either one will do the job. Get both if you can. I really dont care what people say about Colt or any other brand. I think for myself and try them to make up my own mind either by buying one or trying someones. I also know full well, that you can get a lemon too.
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29th April 2006, 19:24
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New information
The Gold Cup Trophy is new production. The Gold Cup National Match comes in the original card board box with the styrofoam inserts, serial number SN269xx. Does this make the older pistol a better choice my local dealer has the pistol and I am very regular there, they don't BS me and tell me over the phone it is a solid 99%
What do you guys think?
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29th April 2006, 22:24
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The Gold Cup National Match would be more collectable than the Gold Cup Trophy but that does not mean it would be a better choice. I think the best thing to do is the the GCNM put it up and shoot it from time to time and get the Trophy for regular range use then you aren't face with the difficult task of choosing. I do not shoot my GCNMs as near as much as I shoot my Trophy mainly because the Trophy is still in production. I save the GCNM for the range if I want to show off a little (if you can believe that).
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29th April 2006, 22:37
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warmrain,
If you can only afford one of the pistols, then the choice is ultimately yours. If I was presented the same choice, I'd go with the National Match.
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29th April 2006, 23:15
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My advice is usu. the same, to get both. At least I'm not inthe position of having to trade or sell one (in which case I advise to keep the trade and buy). Since I can only afford one and this is a special gift for my wife it will be the GCNM if it passes muster... Thanks!
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29th April 2006, 23:19
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I imagine she will be very pleased with the GCNM. Get some pictures when you can please. I sure do love them Gold Cups.
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30th April 2006, 13:54
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Do you want to collect or shoot? GCNM has more value to collectors as long as it is unmodified. Differences are as follows; GCNM is 70 series gun so it does not have extra safety parts like on S80 guns, it will have a spur hammer versus the skeletonized hammer found on GCTM, and should have wood checkered grips with Colt logo as compared to the GCTM rubber wraparond checkered grips with Colt logo. I own one of each and find little if any differences in performance. Just pick one and buy it you wont be sorry.
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