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    M1911-67?

    Hey all. First post. I've seen at least one other post about this before but there wasn't a ton of information so I'm asking myself. Sorry if this is posted a lot.
    My grandfather recently passed away and I acquired one of his handguns. It was in a trunk with some of his old army things. He enlisted during the Korean War, however was stationed in Germany. This particular handgun says "M-1911-67 Autoloading pistol Caliver (that's not a typo) 45 US Army Model."
    The bottom of the handle says "Japan".
    The research I've done leads me to believe that this is either a non firing practice piece, or a knockoff. I haven't taken it anywhere yet but I plan to soon. My question is this. Would this be something Army issued as a practice weapon? Either to practice assembly and disassembly, or possibly a show piece? Or was this just something my grandfather acquired one day and stored it in this trunk and it has nothing to do with the time he spent in the Army?
    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks all!

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    IMG_2029.jpg Here are some pics. Thanks again

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    Non-firing dummy gun, MIGHT pop a cap or dedicated blank, might not. Missing the safety catch, of course.
    Not used by US Army, although we had some solid cast dummies for training. I have even heard of troops on ceremonial guard posts with rubber pistols.
    Made in a repressive jurisdiction for people who wanted help imagining what it felt like to hold a weapon.
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    Non-firing replica, sometimes called a 'prop' gun. Quite popular in countries with exceptionally strict gun laws or outright gun bans (like Japan). Don't try to take it apart.

    EDIT: The holster may be a clue. It looks a lot like a Military Police 'dress' holster, as used by some armies around the world, when MPs take part in ceremonies... I guess a dummy gun might make a lot of sense in such a role.
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    Some previous discussions:

    http://forum.m1911.org/search.php?searchid=90461

    I don't believe that holster USGI due to the construction, flap fastener and odd style grommet at the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doran View Post
    Some previous discussions:

    http://forum.m1911.org/search.php?searchid=90461

    I don't believe that holster USGI due to the construction, flap fastener and odd style grommet at the bottom.
    Sorry, I wasn't clear: I wasn't suggesting that the holster is USGI. I wrote it looks a lot like an MP 'dress holster', as used by some armies around the world.

    Your link doesn't work, it refers to a forum Search page, and these expire after a while.
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    Thanks for the replies. I know my grandfathers brother was an MP around the same time. I believe they enlisted together. Possibly could have belonged to his brother. I guess I'm trying to more or less piece together why he might have had it in a trunk with his other stuff. It must have had more meaning than just a prop gun. But that's something I'll have to look into on my own. Again that's for your help guys I appreciate the information!

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    Sorry about the link. I used "Caliver" in the search box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bparks1987 View Post
    Thanks for the replies. I know my grandfathers brother was an MP around the same time. I believe they enlisted together. Possibly could have belonged to his brother. I guess I'm trying to more or less piece together why he might have had it in a trunk with his other stuff. It must have had more meaning than just a prop gun. But that's something I'll have to look into on my own. Again that's for your help guys I appreciate the information!
    I was an MP, in another life (which is how the white holster 'jumped' at me). If I'd been unlucky enough to have to carry such a thing, or got it from someone else who did (a German friend?) it would certainly have more meaning than a prop gun, and that's putting it mildly.

    Good luck with your search.
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