M1911.ORG Visits Cabot Guns, LLC

[Rio Vista Slim]

An editor of the M1911.ORG E-zine recently visited Penn United Technologies and Cabot Guns, LLC. You may read about that visit http://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.php?p=521#post521


Please use this thread to discuss the E-zine article.

[wjkuleck]

It appears that the aluminimum case is a "Blaze" by Technoframes:

http://www.technoframes.com/en/index.php

Regards,

Walt

[Rio Vista Slim]

Walt,

You are correct. Per Rob Bianchin at Cabot Guns:

"Yes, the cases are made for us by Technoframes of Brescia, Italy. They are a customized version of the Blaze cases."

[dV8r]

I look forward to your Range Report of the T&E gun. It sounds as though the company is appropriately named after the local community rather than one Master Gun Smith. The process you described envisions a team of Master Gun-Part Smiths working independently toward a collective goal of making the very best M1911. One that even J.M. Browning could be proud of.

[Jason8844]

As always, Steve has provided us with a supurbly crafted article. I also had no doubt that Cabot Guns would offer him only the finest experience one could have.

I also have to say I am a little disappointed Steve could not be more specific with the details or provide more pictures. It is no fault of his or Cabot Gun's, because I understand their necessity to keep there proprietary information secret. I feel that this article still leaves many readers and potential Cabot Gun customers in the dark about Cabot's manufacturing processes, and does not lift the veil of mystery surrounding their products.

I hope in the future more to be done to rectify this. However under the circumstances I think this is a great review. I look forward to reading more.

[wjkuleck]

Frankly, I doubt that there is anything magic about Cabot's processes. The price of the finished product may be a consequence of Cabot's tight toleances, which slow machine time, require freshly sharpened tools, and necessitate a willingness to scrap workpieces that fall short, even if within others' "normal" tolerances.

Cabot may have proprietary jigs and fixtures, as well as cutting tools and the order of machining operations. I would not be surprised if one aspect of the secrecy is to create an aura of mystery around their product.

If anyone reading this happens to acquire two Cabot pistols, it might be informative to swap slide assemblies to see if the end product maintains that matching precision seen in the review.

Regards,

Walt

[AEA]

An editor of the M1911.ORG E-zine recently visited Penn United Technologies and Cabot Guns, LLC. You may read about that visit http://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.php?p=521#post521


Please use this thread to discuss the E-zine article.

Very good report/review. Much better than "the other guy" that recently went there.

Will be looking forward to the range report on the demo gun.

Thanks!

[Jim Watson]

Nice folks, check.
Impressive machinery, check.
Fancy case, check.

Waiting on the gun.

[Carrots]

This is pretty lacking considering all of the fanfare, but at least the $350 cases look nice.

[Frank]

...If anyone reading this happens to acquire two Cabot pistols, it might be informative to swap slide assemblies to see if the end product maintains that matching precision seen in the review....Walt, I'd love to help out in that regard. But unfortunately, the Cabot guns aren't on the California approved roster, and under current rules could not be added.

Sorry.

Steve, an excellent article. Thank you.

DVC












(whew! As much as I hate the roster, it's saving me a lot of money.)

[Rio Vista Slim]

Carrots,

With all due respect, how many gun factories have you been allowed to visit?

If you'll thoroughly read my article, you'll see that certain things are not allowed to be photographed, and many intricate details are not for publication. This applies whether the name on the outside of the building is Colt, Smith & Wesson, or Cabot Guns.

I don't much like it either, but I understand what's at stake for all those manufacturers.

[Jim Watson]

I know of at least one manufacturer who held his methods closely because he did not want the competition to know how simple his setup was.

[John]

Having visited Colt's factory too, I can second what Rio Vista says. Everyone has areas that an outsider is not allowed to see or to talk about. And of course, we were never allowed to take any pictures in the factory.

Just to keep things in perspective.

Also, you may be interested to know that we already have tried out a Cabot pistol and we'll soon publish the review in the E-zine.

[Art1]

Did they give you any idea of the wait time, from order to delivery ?? In case I hit the big time. :D

[Rio Vista Slim]

Did they give you any idea of the wait time, from order to delivery ?? In case I hit the big time. :D
Good question Art.

In a phone conversation this morning with Rob Bianchin, he stated that four months is usually required, from start to finish, to complete the work on a Cabot pistol. It's important to note that 75 of Penn United's people are involved in the manufacture of each gun. This includes the folks that program the specs, operate the variety of machines used, and the hands-on people who complete the polishing, bluing, testing, and quality control over each pistol.

Cabot Guns also offers custom features for it's customers, which can be discussed at the time the pistol is ordered.

[jblackfish]

Wow! Very impressive! Enjoyed the review of the visit - now off to read the pistol review.

[TacticalKoala]

Great review of an outstanding pistol. Kudos to Cabot for showing what American Companies can accomplish.