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Seeker_of_Blue
1st June 2004, 23:39
http://seekblue.com

Kerwin
2nd June 2004, 02:36
That's 499 singers to go... :)

1911slabsides
2nd June 2004, 22:51
Couldn't resist huh?. Now if I were you I wouldn't couldn't resist either. I was at an antique store yesterday and I saw a old Singer sewing maching. I was tempted to buy it just because. It's tag said it was made in 1941, I really was tempted because it was so close to the time when the 1911's started coming out. Maybe it sounds silly but what the heck. Besides, with only 500 singers out there and lord know how many are really left a quick scribble about a sewing machine couldn't hurt. BTW it still worked. But I also saw an Old Remington Rand Typewriter and that thing was tempting too. Lots of neat history to be found if we look around a bit. I'm still hoping for a box of 1911 parts at an antique store labled "We don't know what it is" $5.00. It's nice to dream.

I saw the other pictures you posted on that singer, No words here to express what that gun means. Thanks for sharing them.

OD*
5th June 2004, 15:42
Click on Seekers web addy

kj1
8th June 2004, 22:36
Seeker of Blue,

Went to your web site/collection.
You know, I can only say WOW. You have done us all a service by your work!!!

kj1

John
9th June 2004, 02:23
On the sewing machine meentioned earlier, I inherited a piece of furniture, which had a Singer machine in it. Unfortunatelly, the machine is long gone, but that piece of furniture is sitting proudly in my living room. Here is a pciture of it:

http://www.m1911.org/temp/PICT0282.jpg

They no longer make things like they did back then.

(Off topic, but Singer-related, sorry, some times I have to brag too and since I have no USGI pistols to brag about....)

Rgds

OD*
9th June 2004, 02:26
It's a beautiful piece, John.

1911slabsides
9th June 2004, 02:32
The learning curve here is more than I'm use to. I only recently learned that Singer only made 1911's during 1941. I knew they only made 500. But for some reason I thought they made them all the way through 1945. Okay I'll admit that I'm not the brightest bulb in the lamp. It never made sense to me that they could produce 1911's so slowly and make much difference for the war effort. :confused: Okay now you have a sort of off topic Singer story to tell about a guy that loves the 1911 enough to not ask any questions. :( .
Laugh if you must, but I'm not going to stop looking for that 1943 Singer that seems to have gotten away. :eek: Stay tuned to my posts for continued
BONE head thoughts :o

kj1
9th June 2004, 20:54
http://seekblue.com

""A Humble Collection of Modern Classics; for the study and appreciation of
Model of 1911/1911A1 variations""

A real asset to all M1911 gunners. :p

1911slabsides
9th June 2004, 21:00
Seeker, I had only seen the singer on your site. I just took another look. Oh my. Excellent, Thank you so much for sharing such beautiful items and showing them in such a professional way. Art gallery quality.

I'm going to run back and take a longer look. :D

1911slabsides
9th June 2004, 22:01
blue,

I'm back from another round of looking at your site. That 43 remington really got my attention. As you know my "FrankenRand" is a 43 and serial NO is sort of close. I had to find a slide for mine I got the type two logo. the frame was plated so that came off and I parkerized it. I just got some grips from Simpson LTD today, the same type as on your Rand, No rings around the grip screws. Yours is all there but I gotta say that I didn't do half bad getting old FrankenRand looking "sorta" origional. The only difference in the profile on mine is that mine has the longer hammer. I think it is still correct for the NO101XXXX range. Thanks for giving me something to go by. BTW I'm not implying that mine is near the condition as yours, its not. But not a half bad job for a self proclaimed NON Expert. I just try to listen to the guys on this site that really know what they are saying. Again thanks for your site.

kj1
9th June 2004, 22:17
Because of the email alert that someone had posted, I too went back to the site. Looking at the Singer, being one of 500, and it's in such excellentanty condition. Okay, it's been in a holster once or twice, and on the left side, someone has taken it apart ... but who cares ... man, one of 500!!! :eek:

1911slabsides
9th June 2004, 22:20
and on the left side, someone has taken it apart ... but who cares ... man, one of 500!!! :eek:

Seeker made that mark you see there. He's just learning you know :eek:

sorry seeker I just couldn't help it.

OD*
9th June 2004, 22:35
Seeker,

You have some absolutely beautiful 1911s and A1s!

OD*
10th June 2004, 00:21
Address works fine for me, I'm on the page right now.

kj1
10th June 2004, 00:24
Well, you and I do not know each other, I have no motive to pranck anything, and ...
here's the stuff right off the site, why it does not work for you, I do not know. Email someone you know with the site URL and ask them how it works. It wokred for me the first time and just did now.

there is a list of photos at the end of below, yes, 11 photos.

Singer M1911A1

1941 Production

Here is a Singer M1911A1 that was recently acquired from the family of a WWII vet and thus is an example straight out of the woodwork. This genuine Singer has been fairly well-preserved throughout its years. Receiver has the JKC (John K. Clement) inspector stamp and P stamp above magazine release. Slide has the characteristic
inverted P stamp just ahead of the rear sight. Keyes grips are plastic, hollow-
backed without reinforcement ribs or numbering, a variation unique to the Singer.
Magazine is entirely blued without markings. Bullet feed ramp was machined after
the Dulite blue finish was applied and is in-the-white. The polished Dulite finish
characteristically lacks the prominent milling lines of the so-called "brush blue"
Colts of the era.

In 1939, the Singer Mfg. Co. of Elizabethport, NJ was granted a production study
of the M1911A1 by the U.S. government. In 1940, Singer was awarded Educational
Order No. W-ORD-396 for the production of 500 pistols (ref. Clawson). At the time,
the Singer Mfg. Co. was the world's largest mass producer of sewing machines. These
pistols were issued for wartime service, and most went to the Army Air Corps.

Of the original 500 pistols produced by Singer in 1941, only about 90 to 100 have
been observed to exist today in varying condition from original mint to refinished,
swapped, or faked. To this day, original Singer M1911A1's are among the most highly
sought and valued of all .45 pistols. High condition Singers have typically sold
well into the five figure range amid today's market. S800336, a reportedly 97-98%
all original Singer accompanied by rig and documentation, sold for $40,000 at a
Midwest auction in April 2004.




CLICK on link of interest and picture will open in a separate browser window.




Left View

L Oblique I

L Oblique II


Right View

R Oblique I


S. Mfg. Co. logo

United States Property

JKC I

JKC II

P slide

Trigger

Rear I

Rear II



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1911slabsides
10th June 2004, 01:50
o.k., I'm not gonna argue with you this is really a puzzler, obviously. I am both perplexed and aggravated. So why isn't anything showing up for me? :confused:

You know the old saying, "Bad things happen to good people" Sorry about your luck.

John
10th June 2004, 02:31
Seeker,

That site has just been entered in in the M1911.ORG Web Links, in the "M-1911 Related Sites", right at the top.

Rgds

Scott Gahimer
10th June 2004, 18:23
Seeker,

That site has just been entered in in the M1911.ORG Web Links, in the "M-1911 Related Sites", right at the top.

Rgds

Thanks. That will be helpful.

kj1
10th June 2004, 22:19
I still don't see what the hubbub's all about. :confused: Same error message when I try to load http://seekblue.com or even http://www.seekblue.com

Anyone else getting the same problem? :confused:

Salt E.,
I can't see your computer and it wouldn't help anyway becasue a lot of this technology is beyond me also. I usually spin the chair to the left and ask kj8.5 (son, the younger), who has taken over my original monster desk and continued to built 'stuff' toward the 9 foot ceiling.

Please, not only for yourself, but for me :o , send the URL to a friend and ask what they see. Communicate with whom ever you take your computer questions to and ask them what's what.

As I have read your posts, you have pleasently surprised me with your knowledge. And as I have read the posts of most, if not all, I now realize that we all sit in the company of not just each other as people, but 1%ers (the top 1% of people who know everything that should be known about 1911s.)

Seeker has spent about 1 1/2 hours give or take another 2000 hours on the site, the top 1% - I'm tellin' ya. I should be gettin' all the info he put on his site and print it up for my book shelf !! !

kj1
11th June 2004, 23:21
that's once :)