polymer 1911

[drewby]

I saw a picture of a polymer framed 1911 which I believe was made by charles daly. I noticed that some of the other companies that make polymer frames say that the polymer reduces recoil. Is this true in the case of the charles daly? Does anyone have one of these guns?

[Spyros]

Before going out of business recently, CD imported a polymer-framed 1911 from Israel, made by BUL. Less recoil? I don't think so. The gun's balance is obviously shifted forward a bit, which is generally considered to be a good thing, but as far as overall weight is concerned, competitive shooters usually go for the heavy guns, not light ones.

[BigO]

Before going out of business recently, CD imported a polymer-framed 1911 from Israel, made by BUL. Less recoil? I don't think so. The gun's balance is obviously shifted forward a bit, which is generally considered to be a good thing, but as far as overall weight is concerned, competitive shooters usually go for the heavy guns, not light ones.

Bull "At least from what I have read" also made Kimbers polymer framed 1911 and I do believe the one Wilson had for an offering for a few years.

[Spyros]

Bull "At least from what I have read" also made Kimbers polymer framed 1911 and I do believe the one Wilson had for an offering for a few years.The Kimber link seems to be correct, but not the Wilson one. The Wilson was quite similar, in construction, but had several notable differences. Externally, the BUL pistols (in all guises) had a proprietary grip safety, with 'ears' protruding on the sides, to cover the trigger bow's channels on either sides of the frame. The Wilson used a regular 1911 beavertail grip safety. Have a look at a current widebody Caspian grip safety, and you'll know what I mean. Another difference is that the grip frame itself is thinner, in the case of the Wilson. The current Spec-Ops replaced the previous KZ line, but their grips have the same width and use the same magazines. A 9mm KZ mag holds 15 16 rounds. The mag of a BUL M-5 in 9mm holds 18 rounds.

[striker1]

I saw a picture of a polymer framed 1911 which I believe was made by charles daly. I noticed that some of the other companies that make polymer frames say that the polymer reduces recoil. Is this true in the case of the charles daly? Does anyone have one of these guns?

I have a BUL M5 Gov't. model. Great gun. Yes, I think the recoil is soaked up a little over a standard steel frame. The BUL frame is two pieces -- a stainless frame insert that is permanently moulded into a polymer grip/dustcover.

It is a series 70 type , BTW.

[Longslide]

the Bul M5 - Charles Daly rollmark is a sweet pistol. I have the 5inch and just missed a 4in on GB a few weeks ago. :butthead:

accurate - reliable - as a widebody the grip is about the same as a single stack with stand grips. I really like mine. Mags are a bit difficult to find. Kimber widebody 13rounders work great - just finding them is a challenge.

[Mechanized]

I don't believe that polymer reduces recoil either. My theory is lighter means less mass the recoil force has to move. In other words it's easier to push a volkswagon bettle than it is a semi. I have shot springfield xd's, glocks, and ruger's in fullsize and IMHO they recoil more than my steel framed 1911. I could be wrong. I claim not to be an expert of anything.

[HoBoBum]

my "BUL" marked 1911 4" definately kicks LESS than my Commanders

[t-bird]

Thanks for the info guys...

[Spyros]

my "BUL" marked 1911 4" definately kicks LESS than my Commanders
To make a straight comparison, we'd need to know that they have the same mainsprings, recoil springs and firing pin stops... and of course, whether you're referring to a Lightweight or Combat Commander! :)

Beyond these factors, the fact that the widebodies spread their 'kick' over a larger area of your palm, helps make the gun 'feel' more comfortable, although that feel is not the same as recoil/muzzleflip.

[N.D.]

I have a BUL M5 Gov't. model. Great gun. Yes, I think the recoil is soaked up a little over a standard steel frame. The BUL frame is two pieces -- a stainless frame insert that is permanently molded polymer frame.

Hi all I'm a first time poster here.

Yep! Polymer flexes and reduces felt recoil but does not necessarily reduce muzzle rise/flip.

N.D.

[N.D.]

To continue from above:

The recoil of service calibers are not so bad to the hand, so the softening of rearward recoil impulse has a very limited benefit to me and, IMO it's really the muzzle rise that disrupts ones sight picture and takes you off target so I would rather have the weight of steel up front to help keep the muzzle flat while I shoot quicker, or at least some type of recoil system that will keep the muzzle dead flat while shooting.

Sorry if I got off on a tangent my mind wanders a lot. :bf:

N.D.