Need help with my remington rand.

[chy600]

can somebody help me tell if this remington rand is the original one or just another fake one.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/chy600/IMGP0070.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/chy600/imgp0076.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/chy600/IMGP0074.jpg

[Duane Hansen]

If 185321 is the serial number that I see, it is not correct. That number is in the 1917 range. And if the real number is 1,853,21X, then that would put the frame into the Ithaca serial number range which is a likely scenario. The pictures you have shown us do not give us a very clear idea what the finish really looks like. It kind of looks like it's been scrubbed on very hard but maybe thats just the pictures.

[OD*]

It looks like a Filipino counterfeit.

[bgiven]

If it once was original, it certainly isn't now......

[chy600]

how about the markings on the frame? can you determine if its the original markings?

[Duane Hansen]

What is the actual serial number on the frame? The USP and the M1911A1 U.S. ARMY markings look OK from what we can see but a close up picture would be needed to tell for sure. Also on left side, the P proof mark is gone and the FJA inspector marks are gone as well. It could be a legitimate military frame that someone ground off some of the markings or else it's an aftermarket frame that someone tried to make look like a military....

[chy600]

1853217 that is the number on the frame.

[chy600]

the original color of this gun is the actual color of the slide top.
i just sand it all off to make it look like my colt super.38.

[rekladan]

Close-up pictures of the gun's components, field-stripped, would help.

In any case, it's an altered gun.

[chy600]

how about the grips, trigger, hammer ang the sights?
are they the original parts?

[OD*]

Are you in Makati, Philippines?

[rekladan]

I just noticed the front of the trigger guard... Armscor?

[chy600]

i really dont know if it's an armscor.