Looking for thoughts on Remington Rand

[rellascout]

Reminton Rand 1911A1 made in 1944.

According to its serial number 1,425, XXX

Has the original HS marked barrel and "P" proof marks on slide and frame.

Cross cannon marking as well. One original blued WWII magazine marked L

FJA on left side.

There do not appear to be any refinish marks. It does show a semi mismatched finish. I have heard that this is a trait of some Remington Rands of this period.

Thoughts on its finish and its condition. Original or refinished? I know the pics are not great. Trying to get more detailed ones.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/rellascout/remigntonrand2.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/rellascout/remigntonrand3.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/rellascout/remingtonrand.jpg

[bgiven]

Better detailed pictures will help, but I'm leaning towards refinished. The finger relief cut edges are way too soft IMO. I think they have been buffed.

[TattooPaul]

Edges do look too soft. I also looked over the RR's on the Karash CD and the finish between slides and recievers all matched. Edges were crisp as well. I'm pretty sure its been redone. Better pics always help.

[rellascout]

Owner states that its the pic edges are sharp.

The FJA stamp shows bare metal w/in the lettering (as it should) and the feedramp in the frame is in the white.

It has a blued HS marked barrel with excellent bore. I'd estimate the finish at 98%.

You can see the nice horizontal "grain pattern" of the steel under the parkerizing. No rust, pitting or wear. Has old dry cosmolene in many places.

Whats it worth if it is not refinished? What is it worth if it has been refinished?

i am trying to get more pics.

[bgiven]

Owner states that its the pic edges are sharp.

I'm sorry... those finger relief edges are not sharp.... even in all 3 of those pictures.


You can see the nice horizontal "grain pattern" of the steel under the parkerizing.

Actualy the 'grain' you are referring to, are polishing marks. Prior to phosphate Parkerizing, frames and slides were polished as a preperation for finishing. In your pictures, the slide exhibits a finer polish, than the frame.... that coupled with the fact that the finishes do not match, would lead me to the conclusion that these components are not original to each other, or possibly one of these components has been refinshed.

Prior to rendering a final opinion, I would like to see some quality pictures.

[Duane Hansen]

It definately looks like a rebuild to me for all the same reasons mentioned above. Also, These 1911A1 pistols never had any cosmoline on them from the factory, they were just dipped in light oil and left to drip off, then packaged for shipping.

[Scott Gahimer]

The only thing definite I see is that none of the pictures are in focus enough to show sharp edges. The FJA is blurred, too, as well as every other straight line on the pistol in the photos.

There are some slightly mismatched colors on many Rem Rand pistols made at that time.

Clear photos are necessary for me to offer my opinion. The "P" proofs should match exactly. Do they? There should also be very distict matching wear patterns on the frame, slide and barrel...even on 98% pistols if you know what to look for.

Are the grip screw bushings and plunger tube staked into place after finish?

There are a lot of things besides color that determine original finish and whether or not something matches.