where to buy springs?

[harytaint]

I have heard of ISMI on here and am sold with their warranty but they dont have firing pin springs for 1911. Is there another brand that is good? When should i need to replace a firing pin spring? I have a TRP 1911 with about 3k rnds in it. Nothing wrong I am just gathering ideas now.
thanx all

[1911slabsides]

Really, get with brownells, they have springs and all sorts of what nots, at 3grand rounds your probably still okay, I just posted somewhere about springs, don't overdo it, it's real easy to have a big collection of springs and it's hard to tell which one is new and which one is used, On a 1911 the main thing to look at is the recoil spring, the rest is probably overkill, but check out brownells anyway, thay have got parts and some parts and when your done looking, they have parts

[harytaint]

Yeah I have looked there. There is a wolf firing pin spring that says:
1911 AUTO FIRING PIN SAFETY BLOCK SPRING - Replaces weak or broken firing pin safety springs in all Series 80 and 90 pistols with a firing pin safety block. Fits Colt 1911, 1911A1, 1991, Government, MKIV, Gold Cup, Commander and Officers models.


Is this the one that I would need? What is the safety block?
I have a TRP, is the block the piece that holds the firing pin in the gun and also the part the hammer slides on during rear slide movement?

When brownells refers to govt, colt, officer, i am not sure what place my TRP falls into.

[John]

Gee, I didn't know there is a Series 90 pistol!! Shall I go back and add this to the Home Page? The question is, I am not sure what the Series 90 is.

And no, I do not think this is what they are talking about, that is the firing pin stop. I assume what they mean is that it fits Series 80 (with the firing pin safety) and pre-Series 80 pistols. Go figure.

And your TRP is obviously a Government model, but for this particular case (the firing pin spring), Gov., Commander or Officer's all use the same spring.

Rgds

[harytaint]

So then this spring will work right? It is just confusing how they word it. What the heck is safety block.
So John you suggest an ISMI recoli spring and then say a wolf firing pine spring? Why doenst ISMI make them both this would be alot easier. I am considering just using all wolf as to combine the shipping.

Thanx John

[1911slabsides]

Now I may be mistaken, I've been wrong in the past, I think I've seen a 90 series pistol and I'm pretty sure that it was really the 80 series called a 90 because the guy giving out numbers didn't know when to stop. :confused:

The only difference between the 70 series and 80 series spring kits is that in the 80 series there is a little coil spring for the plunger that goes in the slide, the 70 series springs work just fine in the 80 series, Wow now I'm confused :eek:

[Prezzz]

Gee, I didn't know there is a Series 90 pistol!! Shall I go back and add this to the Home Page? The question is, I am not sure what the Series 90 is.

Rgds

The Series 90 is a double action pistol designated as the "Double Eagle". Not many out there.

http://members.cox.net/rtset/gov_dbl_ea_br_ss1.jpg

[1911slabsides]

Prezz, wasn't there an officers model 1911 that was a 90 series too. I'm almost certain that there was one other than the Double Eagle. But my mind has slipped here and there maybe it was all in my mind. :confused:

[Prezzz]

Prezz, wasn't there an officers model 1911 that was a 90 series too. I'm almost certain that there was one other than the Double Eagle. But my mind has slipped here and there maybe it was all in my mind. :confused:

Give the 'ole brain some credit because you are indeed correct. Except it's a Commander size.

http://members.cox.net/rtset/double_eagle_compact_vollbild.jpg

[1911slabsides]

Give the old brain credit for what????????? Just kidding, I really thought there was one, It basically is an 80 series isn't it? They just changed it to 90 because they had the new roll mark die just sitting there or something?

[Prezzz]

Give the old brain credit for what????????? Just kidding, I really thought there was one, It basically is an 80 series isn't it? They just changed it to 90 because they had the new roll mark die just sitting there or something?


Oh no. It's not even remotely the same as a Series 80. Series 70 and 80 are the same, except the Series 80 has the firing pin block safety feature.

This Series 90 is a totally different animal.

[1911slabsides]

okay back tracking on my brain working. The 90 series is the double eagle then. I'll catch on. I have a good memory it just doesn't last too long.

[harytaint]

right on guys, can you please tell me if that spring fits my gun? I do not understand what to look for in reaplacing a firing pin spring. Such a simple part but what heck do they call it?

[Prezzz]

right on guys, can you please tell me if that spring fits my gun? I do not understand what to look for in reaplacing a firing pin spring. Such a simple part but what heck do they call it?

Sorry bud, we took off on a side bar there for a second. Back on topic now.

It's called a "firing pin spring". No need to replace it unless it's causing failure of some type. Follow the schedule below and you'll be fine. Also, check out the techical area on this forum. http://www.m1911.org/technic_forum.htm That's where this info came from and there's a ton more info there waiting for ya'!

Recoil spring replacement...2500 runds
Firing pin spring replacement...5,000 rounds
Sear spring replacement...10,000 rounds
Mainspring replacement...20,000 rounds
Plunger spring replacement...If/When needed
Firing pin...as needed, indicated by wear or damage.
Plunger detent pins...as needed, indicated by wear or damage.

[harytaint]

Hey thanx I have seen that and thus the reason i ask. As i orig posted I just am not sure what the safety block part means and if that particular spirng i cut and pasted on here will work. This cut and paste is from brownells, will this spring fit a TRP or is this safety block something diff? John had said that my gun is catogorized as a govt model so i assume this must mean it will work for it, just not 100% sure. Help me out guys and if you know somewhere else to buy them or a better company let me know.

1911 AUTO FIRING PIN SAFETY BLOCK SPRING - Replaces weak or broken firing pin safety springs in all Series 80 and 90 pistols with a firing pin safety block. Fits Colt 1911, 1911A1, 1991, Government, MKIV, Gold Cup, Commander and Officers models.
(this is a wolf spring)

[Prezzz]

Hey thanx I have seen that and thus the reason i ask. As i orig posted I just am not sure what the safety block part means and if that particular spirng i cut and pasted on here will work. This cut and paste is from brownells, will this spring fit a TRP or is this safety block something diff? John had said that my gun is catogorized as a govt model so i assume this must mean it will work for it, just not 100% sure. Help me out guys and if you know somewhere else to buy them or a better company let me know.

1911 AUTO FIRING PIN SAFETY BLOCK SPRING - Replaces weak or broken firing pin safety springs in all Series 80 and 90 pistols with a firing pin safety block. Fits Colt 1911, 1911A1, 1991, Government, MKIV, Gold Cup, Commander and Officers models.
(this is a wolf spring)

The firing pin blocker spring is a tiny little spring in the firing pin blocker plunger. It has absolutely nothing to do with improving the performance of the pistol in any way. It simply keeps the plunger in the Blocked position until the trigger is pulled.

See the pic. Blue arrow is pointing to that spring.

http://members.cox.net/rtset/Series%2080.JPG

[harytaint]

Finally, thanx so much. This is not what i need then. I need just a firing pin spring that goes over the Ti firing pin in my TRP. Any brands or places I should consider? By the way when would i replace that safety spring? I always wondered what that little pin is right in front of the extractor when the slide is open. Great pic man thanx again for your time, I love learning more and more.
I actually broke down my gun for the first time using johns link with pics for take down. I despise owning something that I have no idea how it works or how to assemble it.

[1911slabsides]

That plunger spring can go a long time, I wouldn't worry too much about that one. BTW I'm sorry I got off track with the 90's stuff, I'm easy to confuse.

[Prezzz]

Finally, thanx so much. This is not what i need then. I need just a firing pin spring that goes over the Ti firing pin in my TRP. Any brands or places I should consider? By the way when would i replace that safety spring? I always wondered what that little pin is right in front of the extractor when the slide is open. Great pic man thanx again for your time, I love learning more and more.
I actually broke down my gun for the first time using johns link with pics for take down. I despise owning something that I have no idea how it works or how to assemble it.

Your certainly welcome.

I wouldn't be concerned with that spring unless it fails in some way. I've never even heard of anyone having to replace that spring.

I use Wolff springs. http://www.gunsprings.com/

[harytaint]

Hy guys no applogies ever needed around here we all seem to be nice folks on this site. Side trackign is fun too, why have to start a new thred when your thoughts are right on the tip your tongue and you need to get them out. You guys have been helpful, thanx again.
Ps 1911forum, is it broke or am i just banned so bad that i cant even open the web page? LOL like I would care, hate that place but there is some good research to do there. So long as you dont type anything or disagree with anyone.