Dads 1911 and my RR 1911a1

[Pontiaker]

Iam new to the site, found it while doing a search to see if what I paid for my Remington Rand was a good deal:~) I just picked it up at an estate auction, its in about 90% condition and looks like all original not refinished 1944 for $440 after auction fee's. I'll have some pics of it in another couple days. Pictured below is my Dad's 1913 Colt that my grandfather bought at a local gunshow for $55 many years ago. Looking forward to spending some time here.
Matt

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[CTDinMT]

Welcome and that's a beautiful Colt! Looking forward to pics of your R-R.

[Scott Gahimer]

Pontiaker: Welcome aboard. The 1913 gun appears to be a beautiful piece. Could you show us a better photo of the rear sight? Additionally, would you check and post the barrel markings.

For $440, it sounds like you got a great buy on the Remington Rand. Can't wait to see it.

[Hunter]

Very nice Colt. Welcome to the forum

[Pontiaker]

Thanks guys! The Colt pictured has an H and a P? On the barrel, not sure will have to look at it again but there were two letters. The rear sight was replaced but my dad still has the original, someone had filed the notch a little wider in the original. Do you still want the pic of the rear sight and the original sight? I could get a pic of them and the barrel markings?

On another note, I noticed when searching on this forum and reading old posts about the RR guns someone asked about large circular milling grooves on the sides of the slide that you can see through the Parkerizing, my RR has these milling marks on the slide, what does this mean?
Thanks
Matt

[exitwounds]

Very nice weapon, indeed. Welcome aboard. Any USGI pistol that functions is worth that these days. Looking forward to seeing some pictures of it. Most R-R's are going for $800 - $1500 or more in my neck of the woods. Congratulations!

[Scott Gahimer]

Yes, I'd love to see the photos you can provide of the barrel markings and the sights.

The marks on the Remington Rand slide indicate it's a 1945 production slide. Those marks were made by a Blanchard grinding machine, which was used by Rem Rand from about serial number 2 million on, which is about where the 1945 production began.

Even if your Rem Rand has an ealier number, for $440, I doubt you got hurt. Will be able to provide more info when you post some photos.

[Pontiaker]

Cool, thanks Scott. The serial number is just over 2mil so it sounds correct for the gun. The serial number is in the 2 million 21 thousand range, 2021xxx. I will try and get some more pics for ya tomorrow and pics of the a1 tues I hope!
Thanks
Matt

[191145]

Cool, thanks Scott. The serial number is just over 2mil so it sounds correct for the gun. The serial number is in the 2 million 21 thousand range, 2021xxx. I will try and get some more pics for ya tomorrow and pics of the a1 tues I hope!
Thanks
Matt
Pontiaker; I just got a RR like yours (2,145,xxx) and it has the Blanchard milling marks, all original and correct parts, and about 98% of it's original finish. The guy was asking $1125 and I got it for a $550 Colt Series 70 + $400. I'm calling the cops, because you stole yours!

[Pontiaker]

Thanks for the replies guys! Ok, got pics of my a1 today also shot it! The pistol is at a local range that does trnsfers, started it to day but I cant pick it up for ten days. I was able to tear it down and inspect a little closer then put 15 rounds through it, five at a time and its dead on at 21 yards, the farthest out on the range I was on. It looks like everything about the gun is correct except the grips? The barrel is blue not park and marked HS for High Standard, for the year it was made it looks like everything is correct including the L marked magazine and the 1944 dated Boyt holster. The left side of the frame has the markings FJA, R and P around the trigger guard and the right side has a small X. Check out the pics and let me know what you think, especially about the grips? They looks like early style Rand grips without the reinforcing around the screw holes but have alot of motteled color where the pics I have seen on most of these look like single color grips? Thanks for your thoughts! Forgot to mention, this thing is really gunked up! Cant wait to get it home and clean it up, gently of course:~) Wait until you see what they did to the front of the holster....
Matt
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[191145]

Excellent, beautiful Remington Rand. Yes, the grips are wrong. You need a set of Keyes grips for it, which can be found at several vendors plus ebay, but you have to get the right ones, since they made them through Korea and beyond. I wouldn't throw away the grips you have, though. Something about them strikes me as interesting, but I don't know why. Again, that RR was a major score for you at that price.

[Pontiaker]

I got a set of the correct Keyes grips on the way, when I get these off the gun I will take some pics of the back of them and see if we can ID them. I have to wait until next friday to actually pick it up after transfer, cant wait!

[Mick_In_Texas]

Pontiaker--

You, sir, and your father are EXTREMELY fortunate to have these excellent genuine issue .45s in such great shape!!!! I have Springers... but, the USGI issued M1911/1911A1s are... the ultimate. These are fine, fine pieces... I've just been carefully looking at them for 15 or 20 minutes.

Thank you for sharing the excellent photos; sounds like these two are in very good hands... ENJOY THEM!

Take care and be safe.
Mick

[Yoshi]

Thats a sweet R/R id be proud to call it mine.
it looks to be correct to me,the trigger and hammer and barrel are correct. the FJA inspectors mark is right ( frank james atwood ).the "P" proofs on the frame and slide are right.does it also have the crossed cannon-wagon wheel cartouche ?. im not sure if 1944 year production included the cartouche.
those grips look right but damaged ,is it possible the pistol was stored in the holster for a long time and something-maybe tannin bled from the leather and got into the grips?
either way id think theres a good chance it could be cleaned off.
beautiful remington/rand you have thanks for sharing pictures.

[exitwounds]

im not sure if 1944 year production included the cartouche.


All R-R's through the end of production in 1945, had the "crossed cannons" stamp. :)

[Pontiaker]

Hi guys, thanks for the kind words! Yes it does have the crossed cannons, just forgot to mention it. When I removed the grips they are clearly not correct, look like aftermarket and possibly bakelite? I picked up a correct pair of Keyes from Ebay, even had about the same wear as the pistol so they really look great on the gun. I will have to post some more pics now that I have it cleaned up and correct grips installed.
Thanks!
Matt





All R-R's through the end of production in 1945, had the "crossed cannons" stamp. :)