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kentucky_smith
20th May 2009, 20:48
1911s: Anyone not like a beavertail safety?
Assuming that one is not hammer-bitten by GI safeties, is there anyone who does not like the extra weight and size of a beavertail safety?

I'm building up a bobtail commander Fusion, and have installed both on it. I'm honestly beginning to think that bobbing both hammer and GI safety will make it easier to pull and shorter, less stuff sticking in my ribs.

What thinks you?
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log man
20th May 2009, 21:09
The Detonics didn't have a Beaver tail or GS and for the reason of concealment and work fine, no hammer bite either as the hammer stops in time, you do feel it touch some times, but no bite.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/logpics/20090520_20.jpghttp://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/logpics/20090520_19.jpg

LOG

1911Tuner
20th May 2009, 22:52
Beavertails are fine. Ducktails I don't care for...and not just because it looks like a hemorrhoid hangin' off the back of an otherwise handsome pistol.

CFLOYD
21st May 2009, 11:30
I'm not a fan of them at all, for the reasons you listed and I think the G.I. GS looks better. :D

log man
21st May 2009, 11:51
Beavertails are fine. Ducktails I don't care for...and not just because it looks like a hemorrhoid hangin' off the back of an otherwise handsome pistol.
I'd agree , but the comparison.......... is nothing, I know about. This one really feels great in my hands.

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/logpics/20090521_1.jpg

LOG

Frank
21st May 2009, 12:04
I can't say I'm a big fan of them, but I also don't mind them much. I don't have any problems with them, but I don't think they look all the good.

The folks at Heirloom Precision have come up with a good compromise.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/fiddletown_2006/Heirloom%20Article/IMG_4728Exx.jpg

DVC

kenhwind
21st May 2009, 12:24
Colt sold a wide grip safety that was the same profile as the notched one they use now. Kings also had a nice one that wasn't an upswept design.
With me, using them is more of a necessity than any thing else.

log man
21st May 2009, 12:40
But in answer to the question, I love em when they are fitted well and high. What's not to like? Be happy. :)

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/logpics/20090506_9.jpg

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/logpics/STI2.jpg

LOG

CDogg
21st May 2009, 13:24
I actually want mine to have them. My sole purpose for replacing the stock grip safety of my milspec was I didnt like how it looked. But I did see some very nice looking colts with no beavertail that really turned me on and I would love owning those

John
21st May 2009, 14:36
I hate beavertails, but I get bitten by the hammer, so for me they are a necessary evil. However, I prefer the Commander, scalloped grip safety shown above by Logman, over those ugly, up-turning beavertails I see on some pistols. When NHC build my Talon, they had explicit instructions on how tall the rear of the beavertail had to be.

RickB
21st May 2009, 15:42
I'm not a huge fan of beavertails. They add bulk to the gun, and require a lot of time/effort to properly install if the gun didn't come with one originally. The guns that I shoot the most have A) High grip (STI) beavertail and front strap/trigger guard, and B) stubby, M1911 grip safety with standard front strap, and I don't sense a distinct advantage to the former. The M1911A1 style grip safety is the worst of all worlds.
Too much, I think, is made of how "high" the beavertail allows one to grip the gun, as the extra metal that's removed comes with the extra width of the tail itself. The frame is cut high for a beavertail, but the width of the tail keeps you from getting as high as possible, and in that respect, I think the STI beavertail beats Brown and the others, as the "knuckle reliefs", or whatever they call them, do allow a higher hold, as thumb can get up and around the beavertail.

Bacon
21st May 2009, 15:45
I was planning to put a GI grip safety on a Government XSE. The parts came in today. I don't get bit and see no reason to keep something that is superfluous. The hard part is finding one with the relief for the round commander type hammer. I see I'm not only one that doesn't like duck or beaver tails.

Rich-D
21st May 2009, 17:50
I am not a big fan of Beaver Tails either. However, I do not suffer hammer bite, even when spur hammers are utilized such as on the Series 70!

Rich

CHILO45
21st May 2009, 18:46
I prefer the traditional design and chose that for my build. Never had a hammer "bite" with the standard GI form.

CDogg
22nd May 2009, 02:16
require a lot of time/effort to properly install if the gun didn't come with one originally. .

believe me I can vouch for that.

I thought John had nothing but love for 1911s. He actually does hate something about the new look lol! :lm:
Am I the only one who likes this look? As I said, I do like the looks of the colts Ive seen with just the standard grip safety and none beavertail

frsorrow
22nd May 2009, 02:52
i do like the look of the old GI's, but i seem to be one of those that gets hammer bite so my guns dont have them anymore.