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rem_kujawa
15th November 2008, 18:57
I want to get rid of the MIM parts in my S&A Mil Spec, I just replaced the Disconnect with a C&S one and now I want to replace the sear. What would be a good match preped sear? and what fitting would be required? Polish the sides and legs and make sure it clears the disconnect paddle?
Joshua M. Smith
15th November 2008, 22:42
Look into a C&S sear, though the best you'll likely do without ordering a matched set will be a semi-prepped sear.
Just a couple swipes with a fine stone and a jig and you'll be good to go.
Josh <><
amd5007
15th November 2008, 22:52
Look into the EGW Hard sear. I've been using those for a while and they are excellent quality and easily drop in. All I needed to do was stone a slight secondary angle.
rem_kujawa
15th November 2008, 23:32
I think ill get the C&S match prep one
wichaka
15th November 2008, 23:47
Nowlin Pro-Match.........solid steel, prepped, and match most hammers I've used them with.
John
16th November 2008, 09:00
Just one word of warning. Don't be surprised if your new sear doesn't drop in. If it does, then feel lucky.
auto45
16th November 2008, 09:03
And the hammer is MIM also, so you may want to replace both hammer and sear at the same time. Same for the hammer strut.
A new sear may not fit the thumb safety either...everything is "connected". :)
rekladan
16th November 2008, 09:18
So sear, hammer, disconnector... the list of parts for a trigger tuning set is nearly complete! Maybe you should get that and keep an extra disconnector.
rem_kujawa
16th November 2008, 10:35
So sear, hammer, disconnector... the list of parts for a trigger tuning set is nearly complete! Maybe you should get that and keep an extra disconnector.
Thats a very good Idea, I think I want to get a Wide spur hammer though.
John what would need to be done to the new sear and hammer?
amd5007
16th November 2008, 11:38
Ok now I must definitely recommend the EGW sear, disconnector and Wide spur hammer ignition parts kit, it also includes a genuine Colt sear spring. All are barstock, all are top quality. I have worked with four of their ignition parts kits, all have dropped in: two in Springfield GIs, one in a build, and the other in a Kimber TLE II (http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=57888). All have had an exceptional, no creep pull at around 4 lbs, without any work other than stoning the secondary angle on the sear. One of these kits was a wide spur hammer in a Springfield GI. Here is the link: http://egw-guns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=34_81&products_id=241. It is the only kit I know of that comes with the wide spur hammer. The only other thing you will need to order is a hammer strut and hammer strut pin.
All in all it is an excellent kit, EGW is an excellent company, and the owner, George, is one of the best customer service people on the planet. Best of luck.
rem_kujawa
16th November 2008, 12:49
Thank you thats what I'll do, when setting the secondary sear angle don't you need a jig to get the angle right? Does the hammer come blued?
amd5007
16th November 2008, 13:34
Yeah the hammer is only available in blue. When I did the secondary angle all you need is a fine stone and a shim and just slide the sear off the shim on the stone. Check out this sight, ignore the part about cutting the primary angle because that was already EDM cut from EGW, http://www.blindhogg.com/gunsmith/triggerjob.html. Figure 2 is the cutting of the secondary angle.
log man
16th November 2008, 14:17
When I did the secondary angle all you need is a fine stone and a shim and just slide the sear off the shim on the stone. Check out this sight, ignore the part about cutting the primary angle because that was already EDM cut from EGW,
The primary cut is very good on an EGW sear, however it may or may not match the hammer hooks once in the gun and should be checked. Also the finish does show faint machine marks and warrants polishing with a very fine stone. The secondary angle can be preformed directly on a stone with a .020" shim and is done by sliding the sear back and forth while resting on the shim. Not by sliding off the shim. After they are cut to your satisfaction the intersection line of the primary and secondary angles can be softened ever so slightly for a smooth let off desired.
LOG
rem_kujawa
16th November 2008, 18:07
Great post guys, I think I will order the EGW kit this week. What do you use to set the hook points on the hammer and how to polish it.
amd5007
17th November 2008, 01:03
Just a bit of advice, before you polish or cut anything install the parts and see how they work? Does the disconnector prevent the hammer from falling out of battery? How is the pull, lbs wise? Is there any creep? Does the hammer follow the slide when it closes? Like I said, these have dropped in without any polishing of the hammer hooks and it has turned out very well for me. Give it a try, you may find that everything mates together perfectly as it is.
amd5007
17th November 2008, 11:23
The secondary angle can be preformed directly on a stone with a .020" shim and is done by sliding the sear back and forth while resting on the shim. Not by sliding off the shim.LOG
Yeah that is what I meant, the bottom portion of the sear should rest on the shim and the sharp corner of the primary angle should slide back and forth on the stone. I just re-read what I wrote and realized that wasn't worded correctly.
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