US Norinco Research

[Jim V]

I've asked this elsewhere but I'll ask it here too.

For those in the US of A: I'd like to know what the importer's marks are on your Norinco, the location of the marks, the serial number (in the 123,XXX format), finish (blue, Parkerized(tm) or nickled), type of MSH (with or with out lanyard loop) and size (Government or Commander(tm)).

Possible importers:

Safari Sports Incorporated or S. S. I.
China Sports Incorporated or C. S. I.
Both located in Ontario, California

There was one importer out of the New England area that I forget right now.
And a possible importer out of Texas that I have to confirm.

If you have answered before, no need to do so now.

Thanks.

[Brian D.]

Jim, honest to goodness I really did glimpse one with "B-West, Tucson Az" writing on it. Why I didn't go back and buy it--or at least write down the serial number--is beyond me. Must've really been off my game that day, sorry!

[nmetzinger]

Hi, you replied to my intro regarding Norinco research.

Here you go:

Norinco goverment
Blue
Model info on slide (left side)
Import info on frame C.S.I. (left side)
Serial number on frame only 414,XXX (right side)
With lanyard
Not sure MSH stands for?

Dose this cover it?
Nick

[USMC0231]

Greetings,

I purchased my Norinco several years ago, used, but in good shape. It groups very well. The particulars are listed below:

Importer marks: Made in China by Norinco, CSI Ont. CA. (left side of frame)
Serial Number: 301XXX (right side of frame and slide)
Finish: Blue
MSH: None
Lanyard: Present
Size: Government

Hope this helps with the research.

Ron

...Semper Fidelis...

[Noah Zark]

Just got one at a show, lightly fired, in box with papers and two mags - $250

Norinco goverment
Blue
Model info on Left side of slide
Import info on Left side of dust cover -- C.S.I.
Serial number on Right side frame 400,1XX (the only marking on the right side of the weapon)
MSH has lanyard loop
3-Dot sights
Trigger with setscrew stop

USMC0231 -- Semper Fi!

HTH,

Noah, former 2111 '72-'76

[Rainman 92019]

Hi Jim.

Purchased new (in 1995 or so), S.S.I., Commander, blued, arched MSH (no lanyard), 6-digit serial number on right side of both slide and frame (the barrel has the serial number engraved in it FREEHAND...?). Love the red steel extractor and recoil spring.

Hope this helps.

[Stumpie]

I've got 3 Norc's, so starting with my primary:

Blued: I.A.C. Billerica MA. Serial # 516xxx the importer engraving is on the bottom of the frame in front of the trigger guard.

Blued : C.S.I. ONT. CA. Serial # 521xxx Standard engraving left side/right side.

Nickel: C.S.I. ONT. CA. Serial # 523xxx Standard engraving left side/right side.

Looks like I got a close batch even though they were all purchased quite seperately! I have not found another with the IAC stamp though, anyone got info on that?

Stumpie

P.S. All government models with lanyard loop at the bottom by the clip.

[CRBell]

Left side of slide: "MODEL OF THE 1911A1 (norinco logo) 45 AUTOMATIC"
Left side of frame: "MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO C.S.I. ONT. CA.
SERIAL NO (right side of frame}: 420,438
Finish: Blued
w/ laynard loop
government model.

Rick

[CRBell]

Left side of slide: "MODEL OF THE 1911A1 (norinco logo) 45 AUTOMATIC"
Left side of frame: "MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO C.S.I. ONT. CA.
SERIAL NO (right side of frame}: 420,438
Finish: Blued
w/ laniard loop
government model.

Rick

[rohk67]

Left side of slide: "MODEL OF THE 1911A1 (norinco logo) 45 AUTOMATIC"
Left side of frame: "MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO C.S.I. ONT. CA..
SERIAL NO (right side of frame}: 606,317
finish: blued
government
with out laniard loop

[horse 91-A1]

Jim, I know you are doing research on the M1911's; are you also interested in researchnig Norinco Rem 870 clones? I just bought one Friday - about $230US and it seems very stout. These shotguns may be standard army issue - not sure on that point. I actually liked the fit and handling better than either Mossberg I handled - plus it's a lot cheaper than the Rem 11-87 I was thinking of. We had too much lightening yesterday to give it a workout. :)

I had no idea Norinco frames and slides were used in upper end mods - speaks volumes for their metallurgy.

Adios,
Bob

[singlestack00]

I can't believe the moderators even tolerate this thread. I can't tolerate myself for even taking time out to read it... Americans buying pistols from a Chinese state run arms maker... What next? Alcohol free beer,
decaffinated coffee and sugar free apple pie. Hell in a hand basket I tell you!

[John]

Why should the moderators get involved in this?

[Hawkmoon]

I can't believe the moderators even tolerate this thread. I can't tolerate myself for even taking time out to read it... Americans buying pistols from a Chinese state run arms maker... What next? Alcohol free beer,
decaffinated coffee and sugar free apple pie. Hell in a hand basket I tell you!
This forum exists to discuss 1911 firearms, and this forum has a rule prohibiting discussion of politics. Since the thread in general is on the subject of a brand of 1911 firearm, the thread is not the problem.

Your post appears rather political, and is thus rather pushing the limit of being acceptable.

[horse 91-A1]

It appears to me that those who own Norinco have a faithful following for a product that's reliable. Last I knew, this was an international forum. :)

Sure you can trust the American government, ask any Indian!

Adios,
Bob

[Ric4509]

Hope this is not too late -

Left side of slide - MODEL OF THE 1911A1 - Logo - 45 AUTOMATIC
Left side of dust cover - MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO, C.S.I. ONT. CA.
S/N - 400XXX
Blue, Government, and with lanyard.

[Kaboom]

Gotta look up my number

anyways

Government 5 inch
Parkerized
Orange 3 dot factory sights
Lanyard loop
Brown plastic grips

Actually compared to others Ive seen, fit and finish is much better..no slide slop..accuracy is superior to any out of the box colt..this comes from gunsmiths and colt fans who have shot it..barrel quality exceptional..ive had it almost 12 years..only mods..wilson mags..factory ones is alittle weak..and some pachmayr grips.. The slide is tight, everything is good..Ive put maybe 3000 plus rounds of like 230 ball through it..no issues.

Read the above post that was negative about the manufacturer...who cares..colts are overpriced and sloppy..springfields and kimbers are nice..but to pricey..

I remember when I bought it years ago.I was like the first in my area...many laughed and were skeptical...get a good one and try it..youll like it..

My other pistols are HK and Glocks

[horse 91-A1]

Actually compared to others Ive seen, fit and finish is much better..no slide slop..accuracy is superior to any out of the box colt

So, how many thousands of Colts and Norincos have you personally fired to make such a statement? What are your group sizes and fps of various JHP's (185, 200, 230gr etc) at 25 and 50 yards that are considered good home defense loads? Do you handload or use over the shelf bought ammo? What is your favorite combination?

Adios,
Bob

[Kaboom]

So, how many thousands of Colts and Norincos have you personally fired to make such a statement? What are your group sizes and fps of various JHP's (185, 200, 230gr etc) at 25 and 50 yards that are considered good home defense loads? Do you handload or use over the shelf bought ammo? What is your favorite combination?

Adios,
Bob
on fit an finish im comparing to other norincos. Yes I have seen dozens> at my range these days they are very popular. Yes Ive seen lots of colts..

Consider though that Norinco used colt blueprints/drawings to make their version as a trade from Colt in agreement to discontinuing manufacture of AR15 copies (Cq311).

The Norincos I have seen have been from good to average in build quality, im not sure why but alot of the Blued ones Ive seen have had some slide slop.

Frankly up here, Colt is overpriced for what you get. At 5-6 times the price difference or even 8-9 time depending on model..where is the dollar value? true my version has crude sights..but whats another 100 bucks in upgrades.

Accuracy, I base my comment on how others, some high ranked IPSC members have shot with it.I have had several gunsmiths when I first got it and comment that the barrel metal quality appeared superior to the colt. This from somethign that came in a cheap unlabelled cardboard box with small cheap brush. My shooting is average to good. I am not exceptional. I shoot reloads, factory etc. Do not shoot factory holopoints as they are not available here. Mainly just ball ammo. Over 200s etc.

Frankly for home defense I prefer the USP.

When I first got my Norinco, I was only so so on it. I would argue that if you shot it, you would like it. Accuracy is good. Never have feed issues. Factory mag is weak and didnt last though. Otherwise no issues. Mine is particularily old, It has alot of ammo through it, and has been used by many at my range.

I am not slamming colt..I just think that for the money..in the case of colt..you dont get what you pay for. I have some very expensive pistols, but If I ever was to pay about $1800 Canadian for one..it wouldnt be a Colt. A Springfield maybe..or something similar.

I think if it didnt say made in China on the side...there would be alot more fans..that and the fact that its hard to buy them in the US for the most part.

Maybe if it was made in Germany you might buy one? I dunno. Im gonna end with saying I like 45s alot..always have and always will....my particular pistol is very accurate...it is very well built and represents a very high dollar value for the money. At the time I paid $400 for it, this from an overpriced gun shop. To bad you couldnt try it out and make up your own mind.

[horse 91-A1]

Kaboom, I don't have a problem with Norinco as I've bought a Norinco 870 clone and the workmanship has increased compared to pre-ban days. In a side by side comparison with a Mossberg; I felt the Norinco action was quite a bit smoother and quicker to the shoulder (sights); plus I can use Remington 870 accessories. Cost of the Norinco, plus a lifetime warranty by Davidson's was too enticing to pass up; so I understand the issue of cost and quality.

I also have a M1991 Colt combat/target in matte stainless that's a great shooter and feeds different types of ammo from a number of different brands of magazines - including 70's era GI surplus. It's fast, very accurate and all I could ask for in a pistol even when I stack different types of bullets in the same mag. I chose the Colt over two Kimbers the salesman was trying to sell me because of its workmanship and smoothness of the action. When a person states one brand outshoots all guns of another brand is when I tend to respond.

So what is my everyday carry? This is a very rural part of Arizona with wide valleys and mountains and being retired and an outdoor person; I enjoy being in the mountains. Since this is very rural, we have high concentrations of black bear and mountain lions; some groups of feral dogs and a once in awhile ornery charging javelina. Black bear and mountain lion can usually be scared off and really don't present that much of a problem if encountered; however, it's always best to be prepared for worst case scenario. I carry a Glock 20, full size frame in 10mm which is a very overlooked cartridge. I can handload 40 S&W velocities if I choose or load the 10 to its potential. For personal protection I load for potential in 180gr Gold Dot or Golden Saber. For trail I'm loading 200gr XTP's for extra penetration. All I have to do is change out one double stack mag for the other depending on where I'm at. The .45acp simply doesn't give me that kind of versatility, especially in the 100 yard range.

Guns are just tools for a given application and I've read enough posts about the Norinco 1911 to know it's a quality piece and if a person wanted to store several 1911's throughout their residence for home protection then the Norinco is a strong possibility.

Within the home defense setting the 1911's are hard to beat; they point naturally, good absorption of recoil (left or right handed) and the triggers are exceptionally fast. Now if Norinco made a long slide 1911 in 10mm it would be a no brainer. :)

Sorry for being so long winded; slow night. :D

Adios,
Bob

[Kaboom]

Kaboom, I don't have a problem with Norinco as I've bought a Norinco 870 clone and the workmanship has increased compared to pre-ban days. In a side by side comparison with a Mossberg; I felt the Norinco action was quite a bit smoother and quicker to the shoulder (sights); plus I can use Remington 870 accessories. Cost of the Norinco, plus a lifetime warranty by Davidson's was too enticing to pass up; so I understand the issue of cost and quality.

I also have a M1991 Colt combat/target in matte stainless that's a great shooter and feeds different types of ammo from a number of different brands of magazines - including 70's era GI surplus. It's fast, very accurate and all I could ask for in a pistol even when I stack different types of bullets in the same mag. I chose the Colt over two Kimbers the salesman was trying to sell me because of its workmanship and smoothness of the action. When a person states one brand outshoots all guns of another brand is when I tend to respond.

So what is my everyday carry? This is a very rural part of Arizona with wide valleys and mountains and being retired and an outdoor person; I enjoy being in the mountains. Since this is very rural, we have high concentrations of black bear and mountain lions; some groups of feral dogs and a once in awhile ornery charging javelina. Black bear and mountain lion can usually be scared off and really don't present that much of a problem if encountered; however, it's always best to be prepared for worst case scenario. I carry a Glock 20, full size frame in 10mm which is a very overlooked cartridge. I can handload 40 S&W velocities if I choose or load the 10 to its potential. For personal protection I load for potential in 180gr Gold Dot or Golden Saber. For trail I'm loading 200gr XTP's for extra penetration. All I have to do is change out one double stack mag for the other depending on where I'm at. The .45acp simply doesn't give me that kind of versatility, especially in the 100 yard range.

Guns are just tools for a given application and I've read enough posts about the Norinco 1911 to know it's a quality piece and if a person wanted to store several 1911's throughout their residence for home protection then the Norinco is a strong possibility.

Within the home defense setting the 1911's are hard to beat; they point naturally, good absorption of recoil (left or right handed) and the triggers are exceptionally fast. Now if Norinco made a long slide 1911 in 10mm it would be a no brainer. :)

Sorry for being so long winded; slow night. :D

Adios,
Bob
hey maybe you could answer a question of mine. Im currently shopping for a 870 Norinco Lawman 14 inch barrel 12 gauge. Im buying it mail order. Is your version the 14 inch lawman type pump? Is the finish parkerized or something in between? The company im buying if off of is far away and hasnt been able to get me a pic, but the price is right. Any info on what you have would be great.

Yeah almost bought the 20 alittle while back. Like the cartridge alot, its serioulsy underated. I am use to a 17 though and was suprised by how thick those grips are on the 20. Up here legally for home defense im limited to like probably just a baseball bat..and that is with a baseball present if you get my meaning. Unfortunately our law is such that it is illegal to buy a firearm for home defense. Well dont want to get into politics so Ill leave it at that. Didnt mean to generalize as those posts are ussually the worst..But have been happy with what I bought. Its to bad they arent available more easily in the US, I think they could sell alot of them. A friend of mine is buying the AR15 copy. Other than an odd hand grip its about the same. And is really cheap. WE get charge a major premium up here, everything is overpriced. My USP I bought a few weeks back I got on sale for $1350 or about $1125 in your dollars.

[horse 91-A1]

http://www.norincosports.cn/detail_product_English.jsp?productid=34&cssid=1 (http://)

I hope this link will help give you an idea of what the 870 clone looks like. I have the Hawk Model 98 which isn't even listed - it has the front hi-vis sight which I believe is quicker than the ghost sights. I think the matte black finish on metal parts may be some type of parkerizing.... I only have about 75 rounds through mine; it's accurate and groups well - shot recovery time from the strong shoulder is good with my body mass. :)

In the states, w/o having to go through a lot of federal paperwork, expense, and using a class III dealer; minimum length shotgun barrels are 18 inches, rifle 16 inches.

Adios,
Bob

[knight0334]

My first post..

Info for the collective good.

Model: Norinco 1911A1 Government
Finish: Parkerized slide, black (blued?) receiver
Importer Marks: Made In China By Norinco. C.S.I. ONT. CA. (left side)
Serial Number: 415XXX (right side)
Lanyard: Present (to be removed later)
Sights: 2 dot rear, blade front (both to be changed later)
Cost and Date of purchase: $279.99+tax, 2nd half of 1993.
Grips: factory brown plastic (was changed long ago to wraparound rubber)

I've made a few changes to it over they years. Many more changes to come as I get money.

[John]

My first post..

Info for the collective good.

Model: Norinco 1911A1 Government
Finish: Parkerized slide, black (blued?) receiver
Importer Marks: Made In China By Norinco. C.S.I. ONT. CA. (left side)
Serial Number: 415XXX (right side)
Lanyard: Present (to be removed later)
Sights: 2 dot rear, blade front (both to be changed later)
Cost and Date of purchase: $279.99+tax, 2nd half of 1993.
Grips: factory brown plastic (was changed long ago to wraparound rubber)

I've made a few changes to it over they years. Many more changes to come as I get money.
It's your first post, so you are not aware that we have a very strict rule here. When you describe your gun .....

:wl:

[knight0334]

It's your first post, so you are not aware that we have a very strict rule here. When you describe your gun .....

:wl:

As soon as 2 parts come in this week, and then installed-then I'll pop up a couple pics for all in another thread. :)

[Walt175]

Left side slide : CSI ONT CA 100xxx MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO
Right side slide : MOD. 1911A1 CAL. .45ACP
Left side frame : 100xxx
Has lanyard loop on MSH.
There is No Norinco emblem on the slide.
Finish is a very blotchy blue.
There are some tool marks on the edges of the rounded top of the slide.
Came with brown plastic grips that are now long gone.
Have the box and original accerssories.
Was bought used in 1997.
Forgot to mention that all markings appear to be engraved or etched except for the serial numbers which are stamped.

[raw52]

SERIAL NO. 200XXX, located on Right Side of Slide & Frame and Last Four Digits on the bottom of barrel.

Left side of Slide: MODEL OF THE 1911A1 COMPACT
Left side of Frame: MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO

Right side of Frame: S. S. I. ONT. CA
Arched Main Spring Housing, no loop
Blued Finish

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/raw52/122105NorincoCompactNIB.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/raw52/122105NIBNorincoCompact.jpg

This pistol came thru dry as a bone, not a drop of oil (or rust/corrosion) anywhere, just as in the pic. Pistol was in Factory Plastic (opened) and did come with all accessories, two mags, bore brush, clearing rod, black plastic molded box and cardboard sleeve. Only thing missing was the instruction manual.

This (NIB) one will remain stock unfired as a safe queen. Really could not pass up on the purchase and not easy to do with this time of year with the holidays and all.

Now to pick one of the others for some slight mods after the xmas bills and taxes are paid.

This is now my fourth Norinco (one GM blue s/n 608xxx), and third Compact (all in the 200,xxx range).

I have to say thanks to the folks in the forums and to care-less, he is the one who got me started with Norinco's a year ago with the NIB find of the GM's in FL. Compact's are a little harder to come by, however they are out there. This is my first NIB and it will probably stay that way as I can now have a few mods done to one that already has a barrel changed out.

Regards, Rich W

[Ric4509]

Raw52

I've deleted my posts.

Ric4509

[poppy]

Left side frame: "MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO. C.S.I. ONT. CA."

S/N 528,XXX Finish- blued Has lanyard loop. Government size.

Purchased NIB at Columbus OH gun show on 12/31/05. poppy

[jdwhealton]

Government model, blued, lanyard loop, CSI SN 4220XX

http://members.cox.net/jwhealton1/nork2.jpg

[BarryBoomboom]

Left side of the frame = 1911A1 Norinco Logo 45ACP Made in China
Right side = Exported by Norinco
Serial # 1102xxx
No lanyard loop
Blue government model
New in box. Purchased December 30, 2005
No pictures as I don't have acamera.

[rolly469]

hello guys..I'm new here but I too have bought and modified my Norc 1911

[John]

Rolly, please do not use bold characters. Second, ....

:fp:

[Tokarev]

Left side slide : Model of the 1911A1 -symbol- 45 Automatic
Right side slide : Unmarked
Left side frame : Made in China by Norinco CSI ONT CA
Right side frame : serial number 531xxx
Came with no lanyard loop
Finish was blued
Came with brown plastic grips that are now long gone.

[Jerome Howard]

Ser # 532xxx on right side of frame

Government

Blued

Made in China by CSI Ont. CA on left side of frame

Model of the 1911A1 (logo) 45 Automatic on left side of slide

No lanyard loop

[Combat Controller]

Ser # 303xxx

Government

Blued

Made in China by CSI Ont. CA on left side of frame

Model of the 1911A1 (logo) 45 Automatic on left side of slide

Lanyard loop

[nightscool]

Left side of slide: "MODEL OF THE 1911A1 (norinco logo) 45 AUTOMATIC"
Left side of frame: "MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO
Right side of frame: "SAFARI SUPPLY INC. ONT CA
SERIAL NO (right side of frame}: 601xxx
Finish: Phosphate
w/ laynard loop
government model.
Bought used $275 in 2006 90 %

[Pakn1911]

Left side of slide: "MODEL OF THE 1911A1 (norinco logo) 45 AUTOMATIC"
Left side of frame: "MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO
Right side of frame: "SAFARI SUPPLY INC. ONT CA
SERIAL NO (right side of frame}: 601xxx
Finish: Blue
no laynard loop
three dot sights
government model.
no manual
Bought used like new $300

[Combat Controller]

So... How is the research going? Has this info been of any use? I have a buddy with a bunch, would you like me to get him to write this info down for you?

[270Win]

Norinco/Wilson Combat - previous owner bought a base Norinco and sent it to Wilson for various and sundry upgrades. Wilson stamped their logo in script above the serial.

Left side of slide: "MODEL OF THE 1911A1 - Norinco Logo - 45 AUTOMATIC"
Left side of frame: "MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO"
Right side of frame: "SAFARI SUPPLY INC."
SERIAL NO (right side of frame, below Wilson Combat script): 602XXX
Finish: Wilson refinished it: parkerized.
no laynard loop
Wilson's night sites.
Government model.
no manual
Bought used/like new, $550.

[gator]

Left side OF SLIDE. MODEL OF THE 1911A1 (LOGO) 45AUTOMATIC.
Left side of frame. Made in China By Norinco. C.S.I. ONT. CA.
Right side of the frame. 5269**.
Finish. Stainless or nickle I havent figured it out yet just picked it up yesterday Verry shinny..
No Lanyard Loop.
Picked it up at a gunshow yesterday for $300 out the door.

[ZTex]

1st Post on this forum!
I can't believe I just found this place!

Left Slide: Model of the 1911A1 (logo) 45 Automatic
Left Frame: Made in China by Norinco C.S.I Ont. CA.
Right Frame: SN 4197XX
Pretty Blue Frame, Dull Blue slide
Lanyard loop
Bought 1993 at a pawn shop $180.00 WOOT!
Hammer, Trigger, Tail, Sights and grips by me.
This thing shoots like a Kimber and swallows anything I feed it.
MecGar mags...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Ztex/Norinco1911A1.jpg

[shelbyv8]

Left side OF SLIDE. MODEL OF THE 1911A1 (LOGO) 45AUTOMATIC.
Left side of frame. Made in China By Norinco. C.S.I. ONT. CA.
Serial # 309XXX right side.
Pawn shop $335 out the door, appears unfired, frame and top of slide high gloss blue, flats on slide matte black.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k184/ShelbyV8/P1000191.jpg

[NavyBlue24YRS]

Bought my Norinco in 1992 for $274.00 Markings are as follows:

Left side slide: "Model OF THE 1911A1 (Norinco Emblem) 45 AUTOMATIC"

Left side frame: MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO. C. S. I. ONT. CA

Right side frame s/n: 526XXX

MSH: Has landyard loop

Three dot sights

Finish: Blued

And oh yeah...I love mine! :D

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1640/norincom1911a14lv2.jpg

[270Win]

Norinco/Wilson Combat - previous owner bought a base Norinco and sent it to Wilson for various and sundry upgrades. Wilson stamped their logo in script above the serial.

Left side of slide: "MODEL OF THE 1911A1 - Norinco Logo - 45 AUTOMATIC"
Left side of frame: "MADE IN CHINA BY NORINCO"
Right side of frame: "SAFARI SUPPLY INC."
SERIAL NO (right side of frame, below Wilson Combat script): 602XXX
Finish: Wilson refinished it: parkerized.
no laynard loop
Wilson's night sites.
Government model.
no manual
Bought used/like new, $550.

Thought I might post a picture or two, to augment my post from last September.

http://www.csee.umbc.edu/~evans/Rommel1.jpg

http://www.csee.umbc.edu/~evans/Rommel2.jpg

[Tokarev]

Thought I might post a picture or two, to augment my post from last September.

http://www.csee.umbc.edu/~evans/Rommel1.jpg

http://www.csee.umbc.edu/~evans/Rommel2.jpg
Very nice! Correct me if I'm wrong but Wilson will no longer work on Norincos. Too bad, as I have a well used stock pistol that could use some custom upgrades.

[270Win]

You're still in luck; during my verification correspondances with Wilson, they confirmed that they still work (gladly!) with Norincos. They only omit them from the list in the brochures simply because no more are being imported due to the ban. In fact, the gentleman I corresponded with indicated that they think VERY highly of Norincos in general.

[yomama]

Norinco compact
Blued
Importer - SSI
Serial # - 200xxx
No lanyard loop

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/gz1477/nork004.jpg