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Substance-P
2nd September 2008, 12:17
This was my first chance to take my new Colt defender to the range. As described in a previous thread, my range session before this one was my one and only trip out with a different subcompact .45 from a different company than Colt. That trip was frustrating with failure to feeds on every other magazine. I am happy to report a MUCH better experience this time!

Initial thoughts: The Colt is very easy to disassemble and reassemble. My previous subcompact required additional persuasion by way of a tiny screw driver and a rubber mallet...the Colt was simple and only required my hands.

Additionally, I was surprised by how soft shooting this tiny lightweight gun is. Maybe its the houge grips, but I put 150 rounds through it in a relatively short amount of time with no discomfort (other than when a couple of bumblebees dive bombed me...but that wasn't the Colt's fault).

My current protocol for a first trip with a new gun is to first disassemble, clean, and lubricate the gun (by the way, Colt has to produce the easiest guns to clean for the first time...just a little bit of what I expect is oil to clean out...none of this grease or special preservatives that some other companies use that require a longer time to clean off). Then I take 150 rounds with me (50 Fiocchi, 50 Magtech, and 50 Sellier & Bellot) and shoot at a local outdoor range at about 20-30 feet (hard to tell). This time I forgot some targets and had to draw my own...at least I brought a pencil.

The first series was with the Fiocchi: three floaters, five on target but to the right of center mass, but the rest were in what would equate to center of a silhouette style target (my target ended up looking more like a giant teddy bear).
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/substance-p/ColtDefender1_50rdsFioc.jpg

The second series was with Magtech and I aimed at the smaller head region on Teddy. My shoots here were low and 4 ended up off the target
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/substance-p/ColtDefender2_50rdsMag.jpg

Lastly, I used the one target I could find at the bottom of the range bag and tried out 50 rounds of S&B. On the tenth round of S&B (110 rounds into the test) I had a failure to return to battery. The slide appeared to go all the way forward, but upon closer inspection was just slightly out of battery. This was in the middle of a magazine I was rapid firing...I think I am to blame for this one as I may not have maintained a tight enough wrist...does that sound accurate?

Once again, I was grouping a little low on the target, but as you can see, most of the rounds were within a hands breadth of one another and that is what I was hoping for out of a gun this small during a first range session.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/substance-p/ColtDefender3_50RdsSB.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/substance-p/ColtDefendert1_50RdsSB2.jpg

On a side note, I noticed these markings on the gun, right by the ejection port, after the session, I am sorry for the poor quality picture. Are these normal wear marks from the spent casings?
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q147/substance-p/ColtDefenderEjectionPort.jpg

Overall, I couldn't be happier with my new Defender. It may have taken two trades in less than a week to end up with it, but I learned a good lesson and wound up with a gun that is a keeper in the process :D

MoneyTree
2nd September 2008, 12:56
Great range report , I really enjoyed reading it . Good shooting and of course congratulations on getting your new Colt Defender .

19114me
2nd September 2008, 16:18
I'm a new Defender owner as well and really like the little pistol. I plan to carry mine and was wondering if you are going to do the same? If so, what holster are you thinking about and do you think the stock rubber grips will be a problem with an IWB setup?

d90king
2nd September 2008, 16:34
Nice shooting with your new Defender. :appld: The Defender like any LWT short barreled 1911 requires a firm grip more so than with the Commander and Government length pistols. The brass markings will wipe of with a Hoppes cloth. ;) It is hard to tell the true accuracy with your targets. Try taking your dots and putting them in quadrants around your backing and shoot 5 shot groups. Try and reduce your group size each time, by the time you get to your last couple you will be able to put 5 shots through the dot. Aim small miss small...... Best of luck with your new Colt.

Hunter
2nd September 2008, 16:57
Nice shooting, and nice new Colt.
The brass marks on the ejection port are normal and will clean up easy.

Substance-P
2nd September 2008, 18:59
I'm a new Defender owner as well and really like the little pistol. I plan to carry mine and was wondering if you are going to do the same? If so, what holster are you thinking about and do you think the stock rubber grips will be a problem with an IWB setup?

Currently, I don't have an IWB setup. I use the Urban Legend by Tucker http://rlcompanyusa.stores.yahoo.net/urleho.html as it works with all my 1911s.

Thanks for all the responses. I can't believe I showed up at the range without the targets I usually use...it made comparisons to my other guns harder. Even though I slackened my grip on the one round (I'm just about positive that's the culprit for the failure to return to battery) I was amazed by how easy it was to put 150 through this little guy.

Also, glad to know the markings will wipe off...for whatever reason, I have never had those on my other guns.

jjShnabadu
3rd September 2008, 00:24
I probably shouldn't chime in as I carry the New Agent, not the Defender, but I use an inexpensive IWB holster that I like very much: Split Decision by High Noon.

It's certainly not a fancy custom holster, but it was inexpensive ($35), is quality construction that fits the gun perfectly, is comfortable (after about a week to soften and mold to my hip), is tuckable, conceals extremely well, and it shipped to my door in about a week. I can't ask for much more...

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm332/jjshnabadu/Holsters/ColtNewAgentinHighNoonSplitDecision.jpg

Cheers,

-- JJ

NEW_AGENT
3rd September 2008, 07:44
I'm a New Agent person also, but I played with a Defender on TV. (sounded better in my head than it looks here)

I owned a Defender and my only complaint was the butt ugly grips. I'd rather use duc tape. Since I carry in my pocket sometimes, I soon tired of the sights, but, mine shoot like a dream, never had any issues and although I'm not a big fan of silver guns, it looks nice too.

The brass marks are normal, and limp wristing was most likely you malfunction issue, otherwise, be proud, S&B sometimes has hard primers and can cause problems. How was the Magtech, I've only shot it in 380 and it was real clean and accurate. How is the 45?

Sights and silver was how I ended up with my new New Agent.

Substance-P
3rd September 2008, 08:03
I'm a New Agent person also, but I played with a Defender on TV. (sounded better in my head than it looks here)

I owned a Defender and my only complaint was the butt ugly grips. I'd rather use duc tape. Since I carry in my pocket sometimes, I soon tired of the sights, but, mine shoot like a dream, never had any issues and although I'm not a big fan of silver guns, it looks nice too.

The brass marks are normal, and limp wristing was most likely you malfunction issue, otherwise, be proud, S&B sometimes has hard primers and can cause problems. How was the Magtech, I've only shot it in 380 and it was real clean and accurate. How is the 45?

Sights and silver was how I ended up with my new New Agent.

Magtech works pretty well in my .45s. I find accuracy to be similar to that of the red and green box S&B. I think it is maybe a little dirtier than the S&B but cleaner than the Fiocchi. My biggest complaint with it is the way they pack it. It takes up about 50% more space than the S&B b/c of the amount of packaging. I had a browning HP that didn't like the Magtech 9mm, but other than that, I have not had any problems with it in 9 or .45.

I am not sure if I am going to keep the Houge grips or not, but it is nice to know that they can be changed out easily. I am going to change the sights, maybe a Novak ghost ring setup as it would be sufficient for the distance at which I would be using the Defender and easy to acquire.

I am the opposite on the finishes though. As much as I love the appearance of Blued guns, I have grown to appreciate the durability of stainless for carry and everyday handling. How is the finish on the New Agent holding up?

NEW_AGENT
3rd September 2008, 09:18
How is the finish on the New Agent holding up?

Finish is doing fine. I tend to "baby" my car, my guns, tools & my lab.(the lab does not even like the outdoors. she is a couch potato). You could eat with my wrenchs. It is still too new to have any honest wear, and while it is a tool and gets used often, I try to keep it looking as good as possible, all things considered. Guns to me, and this refers to all guns, should be polished blue with walnut grips or stock. No plastic, rubber, polymer of stainless or nickel. I also like v8's and rear wheel drive. I'm just an old dinosaur I guess.