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Jeffrey
16th June 2005, 18:22
Need some enlightment as to what the purpose of the Guide Rod/Plug is to the 1911. What is it's functional use and why there is controversy as to what to use e.g. two-piece, full length or plug? :)
mitchjoe
16th June 2005, 18:57
usafsog:
The plug retains the recoil spring. Technically, all 1911's have a "guiderod". The controversy arises from the use of a full-length part as opposed to the partial length original. One & two-piece models are available.
The supposed pro's & con's of each are well-debated here & elsewhere. Personally, I've never seen the need for a full-length guiderod (though I don't often hear of them causing any problem, other than making the pistol harder to field-strip).
In the majority of cases, it's a personal preference...definitely not a necessity.
mitchjoe
Jeffrey
16th June 2005, 19:18
Thanks mitchjoe! That is exactly what I was wanting to know. :)
Joni Lynn
16th June 2005, 19:57
The plug also has the duty of seeing that the bushing stays put and doesn't turn. If not for the fact that 1911's use bushings (most of them) the gun could have been designed like a Hi Power with a closed front. The guide rod however is necessary. There has to be something to help guide the spring so it doesn't get bent out of shape.
BGregory
16th June 2005, 21:03
Jeff, Full Length Guide Rods or FLGRs are supposed to prevent recoil spring kink. They are also supposed to enhance accuracy. They also add a small amount of weight to the gun. Personally, I've never seen a benefit from a gun having one or not. However, a standard guide rod and plug gives you 4 things that I like. 1) As Mitchjoe says it is easier to strip. 2) You can do a press check. 3) You can also jam the front of the pistol on say a table to cock it, if your other hand is disabled. 4) There is no need for front cocking serrations, which I consider to be an abomination.
Joni Lynn
16th June 2005, 21:51
Ya, what BGregory said. I agree totally with that. If you look at the 1911, I don't see how a recoil spring can possibly kink, not much room in there and there is very little spring that isn't inside the plug or over the stubby guide rod.
Jeffrey
16th June 2005, 22:02
Thanks all for your replies. :)
Joni Lynn
17th June 2005, 00:22
Ok, I agree with what BGregory said, but I will admit I have the Dawson Precision one tool-less full length guide rods in my guns that aren't still using the short ones. I don't have to mess with the spring or the plug or anything, the gun comes apart easily and goes together same.
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