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joework
29th June 2008, 03:22
For my first 1911 ( well second, years ago i had a 70 series) i have chosen the 1911 WW1 replica from Colt. I like the idea that I'm buying a Colt from Colt. I read some of the reviews here of the Springfield and Auto-Ordinance, but like I said, I've got my heart set on the Colt. What reviews have you all heard about this model lately? I'm also buying a El Paso leather 1911 cavalry holster with magazine pouches. Or, I'll buy the cavalry setup from a military replica company mentioned by another member a while back. So the other question is: should I keep the new pistol in the holster or could that damage the finish? Anything else I should concerned about? Another question, back in 1911 did they use leather belts for the holster or canvas?

I'm new to this board and hope this thread goes through (I'm new to boards as well). I have really enjoyed my time reading all the threads and reviews, very interesting. Oh, one other question: can anyone recommend some books on the 1911 military use and the US cavalry between 1880 and 1920?

Sorry I had so many questions for my first post. I have so many others but I didn't want to get off topic. So if the moderator wants to push this thread somewhere else I'll understand and try to do better next time.

John
29th June 2008, 03:52
Nice pistol you selected to buy.

I wouldn't advise to store the pistol in the holster, especially a leather holster, which can attract moisture, which is not good for the pistol. Keep the pistol in its original box, or in your safe, or in a dry environment in general.

elijdub
29th June 2008, 07:31
Welcome to the forum Joework! The WWI Repro is a great choice. As John said, permanently storing the pistol within a leather holster is not a good idea. We certainly use them (leather holsters) for "carry" purposes though. While leather is the easiest on a pistol of all holster materials, the gun will begin to show some wear from being carried...this is just something that goes with the territory of "carrying" from my experience.
As far as books on the 1911 in Military usage, i'd recommend anything by Charles Clawson.
Please keep us posted on your purchase and don't forget to post pics ;).

clughog
29th June 2008, 10:39
Welcome to the Forum! The WWI Reproduction is sure a fine pistol---good choice! Ditto what John and elijdub said.

Joni Lynn
29th June 2008, 11:23
Welcome to the forum.
The WW1 repro is a great choice and Colt is doing a really nice job on the fit and assembly of all the ones I've seen.
Ditto on the holster, don't store in it and keep the gun wiped down so moisture doesn't start rust.

Hunter
29th June 2008, 11:29
Welcome to the forum, I also believe you chose nicely.
The WW1 repo is a beautiful pistol but I am a little bias toward Colts in general.
Please post a few pictures when you get it.

Hawkmoon
29th June 2008, 12:13
There is a small antique shop a couple of miles from home, one of the partners in which dabbles in militaria. He has a complete WW1 pistol belt setup, complete with flap holster, ammo pouches, first aid kit, etc. The belt is a canvas web belt, much like the one I wore in Vietnam except for color.

joework
29th June 2008, 16:16
Thank you all for the information. I can tell I'll real enjoy being a member of this M1911 org; with so many friendly and informed people. I'll be sending pics as soon as I figure out how to accomplish that procedure.

OD*
29th June 2008, 16:21
Welcome to forum.

drshame
29th June 2008, 17:45
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/drshame/Colt1911Repro.jpg
Just to get 'cha a little Hot'N Juicy. They are pieces of art, imho. I did swap the grips though..they can be "hit or miss".

Hawkmoon
29th June 2008, 18:50
Dr. Shame, you owe me a keyboard. Mine just succombed to terminal slobber syndrome.

Those grips are beautiful. May I ask from whence they came?

Joni Lynn
29th June 2008, 18:53
Wow Hawk, you & John seem to slobber 'n drool over a lot of keyboards. :)

daveohno
29th June 2008, 18:55
Welcome to the forum, joework. You chose a great Colt as your first, the WW1 repros get high marks for quality.

joework
29th June 2008, 19:23
Thank you all again for the welcome and yes I am buying the colt WW1 on Tuesday. After seeing the photos of drshames Colt I'm hoping they are messed up so I can start looking for something really nice!

drshame
29th June 2008, 19:30
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/drshame/DSC_0016.jpg
Here slobber-on!
The original grips were just OK but I wanted something a little more "pronounced" and darker.
These came from Hogue as their "1911 Style" repros'. Don't know if they make them regular or special order. I also stained them with Minwax Dark Walnut to get the color I wanted.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/drshame/OlderColt.jpg
I still think these are "Museum Pieces" though I have shot mine. How's your keyboard doing?

Joni Lynn
29th June 2008, 19:34
I really like mine. It took me a few months to settle on owning one though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Joni_Lynn/ColtWW1.jpg

Landman
29th June 2008, 19:59
Great pictures of some beautiful pistols. Here is a very poor picture of my Black Army Reproduction with some ivory grips on it. The flash makes them look very white but they have some yellow grain in them that looks great on the pistol.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/onexco/Gun%20Collection/ColtWWIReproBlackArmy02_Small.jpg

Dump1567
29th June 2008, 21:43
Since this is turning into a pic thread. ;)

Here's the used one I got from Bud's for $800. Looks new to me. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Dump1567/IM006988.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Dump1567/IM006989.jpg

Hawkmoon
29th June 2008, 22:07
I still think these are "Museum Pieces" though I have shot mine. How's your keyboard doing?
jUz t g_reATe, tHnk yOu

daveohno
29th June 2008, 22:50
jUz t g_reATe, tHnk yOu

Now that's funny. :D

Landman
30th June 2008, 05:20
Dump1567,

Those grips look great! Are those original or some aftermarket ones? Mine that came with the pistol are nowhere near as beautiful as those.

Hill
30th June 2008, 09:16
[QUOTE=Dump1567]Since this is turning into a pic thread. ;)

Here's the used one I got from Bud's for $800. Looks new to me. :)


Boy, you've made me sorry to have passed on that one, Dump, it looks great!

The finish on mine hasn't held up so well..................http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p263/twagger/firearms/1916Colt.jpg

Dump1567
30th June 2008, 11:00
Dump1567,

Those grips look great! Are those original or some aftermarket ones? Mine that came with the pistol are nowhere near as beautiful as those.

As far as I know they're original, but this was technically a used gun when I bought it from Bud's. But it came with everything a new gun would come with. Even the extra mag was still wrapped-up. This thing's almost too nice to shoot. (almost). ;)

I've had really good luck when buying used guns from Bud's. :)

texagun
30th June 2008, 11:35
I think they are one of the finest guns Colt is currently producing:


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/w5lx/Nice_Pair_Of_Colts_WWI_Reprosweb-2.jpg

Dump1567
30th June 2008, 12:32
I think they are one for finest guns Colt is currently producing:


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/w5lx/Nice_Pair_Of_Colts_WWI_Reprosweb-2.jpg

Great pic.

rondawg
30th June 2008, 13:02
OK, me next....I have one of the Blue ones, and a WWII also. The WWI is an outstanding pistol, I'm really proud of it! Scored it for $899, a really good shooter too.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/DSCN1156.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/DSCN1158.jpg

fortney
30th June 2008, 13:39
Re the original poster's reference to El Paso Saddlery, my wife and I have 4 holsters and 2 belts from them. They are of the highest quality. Note however that if what you want is not in stock then delivery time may be longer than they say. Nonetheless, worth waiting for. (And their prices are fairly low for such good work).

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K9american
30th June 2008, 14:07
Texagun - or Anyone,

Are those pistols Black Army or blue?

M2HB
30th June 2008, 15:24
I like them so much that I bought two of the Carbonia finished 1911 repros.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/M2HB/DSC00249.jpg
By the way El Paso Saddlery makes great holsters. You may want to order your's lined for $20 extra. It is easier on the finish.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/M2HB/DSC00107.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/M2HB/DSC00077.jpg
All of my El Paso holsters are lined and you have to look real hard to notice it. The option is well worth the minimal cost.

daveohno
30th June 2008, 20:21
I have several El Paso holsters now. I have two more on order right now. They make stuff that isn't readily available elsewhere. I've had 2 minor issues with them, a magazine holder took much too long to receive and the other is a belt I ordered from them isn't quite as thick as I would have liked. I had it lined and it just seems too thin. When I order another from them, I'll have to specify that the layers of leather need to be thicker. I really like their stuff and the wait isn't that bad.

texagun
30th June 2008, 21:07
Texagun - or Anyone,

Are those pistols Black Army or blue?


Mine are both Black Army.

HorseArtillery
30th June 2008, 21:08
wow this is a great thread. thanks for all the eye candy. think i hear gunny snoring. :sleep:

rondawg
1st July 2008, 00:20
wow this is a great thread. thanks for all the eye candy. think i hear gunny snoring. :sleep:
That's Annie, my fat little Beagle.

Landman
1st July 2008, 04:50
Mine are both Black Army.

Texagun,

The top pistol in your picture has a Carbonia Blue serial number. The Carbonia Blue serial numbers end in WMK and the Black Army ends in WWI.

joework
1st July 2008, 05:14
I like them so much that I bought two of the Carbonia finished 1911 repros.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/M2HB/DSC00249.jpg
By the way El Paso Saddlery makes great holsters. You may want to order your's lined for $20 extra. It is easier on the finish.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/M2HB/DSC00107.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/M2HB/DSC00077.jpg
All of my El Paso holsters are lined and you have to look real hard to notice it. The option is well worth the minimal cost.

That holster rig is exactly what I'm getting!!! Thanks for the tip on the liner. That also will happen.

Great photos everyone. Tomorrow is the big day!

throwingdown
1st July 2008, 10:22
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/xbelxatomic/19112.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/xbelxatomic/19117.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/xbelxatomic/19115.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/xbelxatomic/19116.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/xbelxatomic/19113.jpg

Great Colt, great choice. Nothing to add to what everyone else said, just a few more pics.

OD*
1st July 2008, 13:43
Neat pictures. http://forums.1911forum.com/images/smilies/rock.gif

Dump1567
1st July 2008, 19:38
I decided to display mine. Why hide it in the safe? No kids, no more wife, monitored alarm, why not? ;)

I know the ammo box isn't correct, but it's all I had.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Dump1567/IM007013_edited.jpg

OD*
1st July 2008, 19:41
Looks real good, Dump.

elijdub
1st July 2008, 19:44
Great looking display, Dump!

MCPO
1st July 2008, 21:25
:appld: Beautiful Dump - makes my heart sing :p

throwingdown
1st July 2008, 21:39
Now you need to buy another to shoot!

joework
2nd July 2008, 03:18
I agree one thousand per cent.

joework
2nd July 2008, 03:26
Now you need to buy another to shoot!

Actually, you may be right.

joework
2nd July 2008, 03:39
I guess I'll find out about the lined (which I want) and the fact I want a 1913 holster and clip belt. thanks for the info.

Landman
2nd July 2008, 03:54
Very nice looking display, Dump!

texagun
2nd July 2008, 06:58
Texagun,

The top pistol in your picture has a Carbonia Blue serial number. The Carbonia Blue serial numbers end in WMK and the Black Army ends in WWI.


Thanks. You are right, of course. They are Carbonia Blue. For some reason I had Black Army on the brain...........

Hill
3rd July 2008, 18:40
Thanks. You are right, of course. They are Carbonia Blue. For some reason I had Black Army on the brain...........

A sure sign............won't be long now before you buy one..:)

Joni Lynn
3rd July 2008, 18:44
You need one.............soon, very soon, the sooner the better.

joework
6th August 2008, 04:46
the finest handgun i've ever bought was through, clughog, aka Creighton.

let us start from the beginning. several weeks ago i decided to buy an original 1911 colt to add to my interest in cavalry weapons, this includes the colt replica .

i went to my local gun-store and requested the hand gun. they introduce me to a busted up, colt box with the 1911 in there, somewhere. it was a joke. the box (the white shipping box and the blue colt box) were damage at a level that was unbelievable. like someone had hit it with an axe.

along came clughog, he offered me an 1911 replica with NO damage. guess what? when i ordered it from Creighton , there was zero damage to the product.

do i send a letter of nasty damage to colt about the local shop that distributes the firearm or do i stay with clughog, on future purchases?

i'm staying with, Creighton. i've known the owner of the shop for 20 years, i like him . but this is too much.

joework.
friend of clughog.

thanks for all the info about 1911 . i've ordered the el paso 1911 leather holster but have 8 weeks waiting for the sucker. i also included the liner. will post pictures of the new darling when all arrives.

clughog
6th August 2008, 08:47
Thanks for the very kind words, Joework...I really enjoy helping someone find exactly what they want. The O1918 is an awesome pistol, that's for sure! Can't wait to see those pictures. :D

seaplane
7th August 2008, 14:00
I've been thinking hard about buying one of these that is in stock at a local shop. I'd love to hear some comments on how they shoot and how the accuracy is. Do they sling brass back at your forhead like the wwII springfields do? That was the main thing that made me decide to get rid of the Springer I had! I really like the looks of this Colt! Do they shoot as well as they look? Would I be better off just buying the standard 1970 colt or XSE for a shooter? I kind of like the retro look and was hoping these would be performers as well as lookers! By the way, I'm new to the forums and wanted to say hi!

Joni Lynn
7th August 2008, 15:08
Welcome to the forum.
My WW1 repro is easily among the most accurate of all my newer Colt 1911's. It's as accurate as my SCG and maybe more so.

seaplane
7th August 2008, 16:56
Thanks for the welcome! It's good to hear that about this model. I am most likely going to go pick that one up in the A.M.I saw it about 2 weeks ago, and then started researching it online. Thats how I stumbled upon this forum. I had been lurking around this post for awhile, and I was hoping someone would give a performance oriented view of the WW1. I really was just curious about the trigger feel and the brass ejecting away from my face! The looks alone would sell this Colt, But I want a real shooter and not just a collectible. I guess it's probably a better pistol than Alvin York had with him on that historical day!
So, Do you think these new repro's group a better group than 4" @ 25yds ? Thanks for the input!

Dump1567
7th August 2008, 17:06
I've only put a few mags through mine, but it was accuarte and 100% reliable. No brass in my face problems and I'm a lefty.

Joni Lynn
7th August 2008, 18:01
Yes they do better than 4" at 25 yards but I haven't spent much time with targets after the initial range trip, I prefer to bang on my steel plates. The trigger is good for a factory gun.
I'm a leftie as well and haven't been hit by an empty yet.

seaplane
8th August 2008, 18:03
I picked up my WW1 today! I haven't had the chance to fire her yet, But I did dry fire it a couple of times to feel the trigger. It broke light and crisp. I pulled the slide off and looked everything over. It looks like a wel made pistol to me, But I'm not an expert by any means. Here are a couple of pics. The holster is one of Rob's simply rugged open top Tributes. I have the Chesty Puller straps and some IWB straps coming for it. I can't wait to get it to the range!---Well, Looks like I need to post a link to my photos. I'll do that shortly! link to pics http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=331&groupid=9865&folderid=17473&folderview=thumbs&ck=

rondawg
8th August 2008, 18:29
Congrats!!! You're gonna love it!

seaplane
8th August 2008, 18:35
Thanks! I guess I will need to read up on the pics posting thing! I've only read it once, and I must have missed something! :sleep: Also, I'd like to thank everyone on their input in this post that helped me make the decision to go for this Colt! I know it wasn't my thread, But it helped me a grat deal on my research and purchase! Especially the great pics! I wish I could figure out how to post one of my crummy pics :) Oh well, They are in the link above!

Steve C
4th September 2008, 16:32
Are the black oxide 01918 models any where near as desirable as the original blue WWI reproductions?

My local dealer has one and it keeps singing to me every time I walk in there.

d90king
4th September 2008, 16:42
Are the black oxide 01911 models any where near as desirable as the original blue reproductions?

My local dealer has one and it keeps singing to me every time I walk in there.


I think it is kinda a toss up. You might see a small premium based on the fact that they are out of production. I haven't seen a big variance though.

Joni Lynn
4th September 2008, 17:04
I'd agree it's probably going to be a toos up or close to it.
They're both quite nice.

NEW_AGENT
4th September 2008, 17:24
Welcome as well. Everyones covered everything else.

As far as the "black" 1911 is concerned, it does look to be a little cheaper wholesale price than original "carbonia" 1911. Did they stop production on the other one? My dealer had still been finding them, although he has not had one in a month or two...

d90king
4th September 2008, 17:45
. Did they stop production on the other one? My dealer had still been finding them, although he has not had one in a month or two...


I am not sure which one you are asking about...... The Carbonia has been out of production for a while. The black army is current production and easy to find. Most times though they seem to leave the factory in batches so it can be feast or famine.

NEW_AGENT
4th September 2008, 17:58
The Carbonia is the one he has been getting through distribution. My dealer says it has not been a real problem for him to get them in the past. He had one the last time about 4 mons ago he said. He had been getting them whenever someone ordered one as they don't stock many Colts.

d90king
4th September 2008, 18:13
The Carbonia is the one he has been getting through distribution. My dealer says it has not been a real problem for him to get them in the past. He had one the last time about 4 mons ago he said. He had been getting them whenever someone ordered one as they don't stock many Colts.


Thats a shame they don't stock more Colt's. My shop always has a great selection of all the current offerings. The truth of the matter is that if they didn't stock them I would have far fewer pony's in the stable. I always say you cant sell what you don't have. Many of my buys have been impulse buys so if they didn't have them they wouldn't get the sale. The Carbonia's he is finding must be some pretty old stock but that is not always uncommon. I believe it was the first of the year when they switched over to the black army.

gunslinger1971
5th September 2008, 17:55
Ok, I have to throw in my two. A Carbonia model and Black oxide model. Hopefully my sons will end up with these some day way down the road.

WMK (grips have been replaced with Hogue reproductions since the pic)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/gunslinger1971/Gun%20Pics/Colt1911WW1-1.jpg

WW1 (touched up checkering and refinished cheap ebay grips)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/gunslinger1971/Gun%20Pics/IMG_2061.jpg

OD*
5th September 2008, 18:48
Looks good. http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

hardballing
6th September 2008, 14:31
Will say this about the carbonia blued version (since the OP listed as a first choice in 1911's).

I had this version right when they came out. I chose it to shoot, not to be a safe queen. But I was disappointed with the durability of the carbonia process. I had "fingermarks" in the frontstrap in no time, from wear on that finish. I am a freak about wiping down my guns after use and keeping them clean so I don't think it was a cleanliness issue. I ended up selling the piece (wish I had not as they make awesome platforms for a true retro carry gun).

So...that was the only issue I had with it. The fit was perfect and it shot extremely tight groups with mixed ball (can't say my eyes are as good as they used to be with those tiny sights though). The "Black" version seems to be more durable as a carry piece and I have already started laying aside the bucks to get one of those to try again on a 1911 retro.

Congrats on the pick and welcome to the forum. I too am a noober but the wealth of info here on JMB's masterpiece is a good thing to have.

P.S. Just got my Series 70 stainless home prior to Hurricane Gustav hitting Louisiana. Took it to the farm and put approximately 300 flawless rounds up the spout. Keeper for sure. Sorry, no pics yet, but they will be forthcoming after I get a little tweaking done to my liking :)

Steve C
7th September 2008, 09:17
Is the black oxide an authentic vintage finish for the 1911?

Hawkmoon
7th September 2008, 12:38
The process may not be entirely authentic, but the intent is to replicate the appearance of the late WW1 pistols that had the so-called "black Army" finish. You can read up on that in various books on the martial Colts, but the Cliff's Notes version is that, as the war progressed, they first eliminated the final buffing operation to save time (which resulted in the brushed blue that was replicated in what has been referred to as the "Carbonia" replicas -- incorrect terminology because Colt didn't use the Carbonia process), and later changing the bluing process to save time, with a resulting finish that was more a dull black than a traditional gunmetal blue. These are referred to as the "black Army" 1911s, and they fell generally within a specific range of serial numbers.

I think it's probably safe to assume that the process Colt is using on the replicas isn't the same as they used in WW1, but the appearance is very close.

texagun
7th September 2008, 13:14
The current process should be much more durable as the original black army finish was known to flake off and not be durable.

Steve C
7th September 2008, 13:30
The process may not be entirely authentic, but the intent is to replicate the appearance of the late WW1 pistols that had the so-called "black Army" finish. You can read up on that in various books on the martial Colts, but the Cliff's Notes version is that, as the war progressed, they first eliminated the final buffing operation to save time (which resulted in the brushed blue that was replicated in what has been referred to as the "Carbonia" replicas -- incorrect terminology because Colt didn't use the Carbonia process), and later changing the bluing process to save time, with a resulting finish that was more a dull black than a traditional gunmetal blue. These are referred to as the "black Army" 1911s, and they fell generally within a specific range of serial numbers.

I think it's probably safe to assume that the process Colt is using on the replicas isn't the same as they used in WW1, but the appearance is very close.

Okay, so the black finish is "authentic" then for a reproduction? They were issued in WWI in both the blue finish and the black finish?

Hawkmoon
7th September 2008, 15:19
Okay, so the black finish is "authentic" then for a reproduction? They were issued in WWI in both the blue finish and the black finish?
Here's a partial quote from a reference site:


Types of Finishes found on 1911/1911A1s:
(Serial number ranges are approximant)
Colt 1 to 2400: Bright furnace blued, Slide and receiver highly polished. Certain small parts have a high polished bright Fire blued (Cobalt Color) appearance. "Oil Finish" Yet some seemingly original pistols within the serial range have the later duller finish. These pistols might have been held back to perform some remedial rework and by the time the rework was completed, the acceptable finish had changed to the duller finish and they then got the later finish.
Colt serial #2401 to about serial #160,000: Fine brushed looking Finish, furnace blued. Small parts have a smoky blue finish that appears lighter than the color of the slide and receiver.
Colt serial #160,000 to about serial #400,000: Colt brushed blue finish, Coarser girt size on close inspection. small parts have a blued finish that appears to match the slide and frame on near new pistols.
Colt serial #400,000 to end of WWI: Very coarse blued finish causes pistols to almost appear black. These pistols are referred to as the "Black Colt" or "Black Armys". This was due to changes implemented to speed production and reduce cost. Among those was the elimination of the fine polishing step.
Colt Post WWI to 1941: Colt brushed blue finish, Coarser girt size on close inspection. small parts have a blued finish that closely match the slide and frame.
The full article can be read here: http://coolgunsite.com/
You'll have to hunt around a bit -- the site uses frames and I don't know how to link you directly the the article.

clughog
7th September 2008, 16:54
As far as the "black" 1911 is concerned, it does look to be a little cheaper wholesale price than original "carbonia" 1911.The only reason I can see for it being less is there was an overall price increase by Colt after introduction of the O1918 model. Dealer cost was originally the same for the O1918 as the O1911 when it first came out. There are sill some of the Carbonia Blue models at distributors...I saw a couple delivered just the other day and was surprised. But I suspect they're getting harder and harder to come by wholesale.

TattooPaul
8th September 2008, 05:26
One quick note about the beautiful Carbonia model I have. The slide is the nicest, deep black I have ever seen and the frame and smal parts are beautiful as well.I did experience bad flaking of the finish on my MSH. Mark Roberts, who is no longer with them, was very prompt and helpful. As it isn't the original part now, one edge now doesn't quite line up with the frame, though. I have also noticed that, as a shooter, the Carbonia is fading a bit on the front strap from my fingers despite my best efforts to maintain it. I wouln't trade it for anything, however - it's s beautiful piece from Colt's Custom Shop.

It also has the best trigger action of any semi-auto and is only surpassed by my Python.

Does anyone know if the Black Oxide version is from the Cusom Shio, too. or is it a production model now?

M2HB
8th September 2008, 12:46
One quick note about the beautiful Carbonia model I have. The slide is the nicest, deep black I have ever seen and the frame and smal parts are beautiful as well.I did experience bad flaking of the finish on my MSH. Mark Roberts, who is no longer with them, was very prompt and helpful. As it isn't the original part now, one edge now doesn't quite line up with the frame, though. I have also noticed that, as a shooter, the Carbonia is fading a bit on the front strap from my fingers despite my best efforts to maintain it. I wouln't trade it for anything, however - it's s beautiful piece from Colt's Custom Shop.

It also has the best trigger action of any semi-auto and is only surpassed by my Python.

Does anyone know if the Black Oxide version is from the Cusom Shio, too. or is it a production model now?
I believe that all the repro models were from the custom shop. The Black Oxide finish is now done in house instead of being done at Ron's Gun Shop.

cliff731
8th September 2008, 14:30
The black oxide finished "1918" M1911 that I saw recently came in a blue Colt Custom Shop box... with the white cardboard sleeve.

TattooPaul
9th September 2008, 05:11
Thanks for the update on the black oxide versions. All of these are well worth adding to anyones collection!