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Big Sky Rancher
15th July 2004, 00:12
What are the factors that lead you to the weapon you carry? What is the duration of your normal carry day? Do you have particular clothing contraints or working conditions that have contributed to your choice? Do you switch carry guns and if so why?
No need to answer all the questions they're just posed to help spur discussion. What are your thoughts on this topic?
Rabbi
15th July 2004, 06:55
Reliability
Familiarity
Power
Accuracy
It would take too long and be too expensive to get accessories for a non-1911 type pistol.
wichaka
15th July 2004, 10:45
I like the slim design and function of the 1911. My normal carry day is 10-11 hours, 4 days a week. No clothing constraints, but working conditions have mandated that we a carry. LEO you know...........
The issue weapon is the H&K USP .45, but we can carry anything as long as its in .45 cal So since I build 1911's for LEO duty, its a logical choice. Many of the guys now are carrying their USP's C&Lk'd. Some are looking at going to a 1911.........give me time............give me time............
The only switch I make is between my SA Loaded, Colt SS GM, or a Colt Commander. Some day will get an Officers model, as I want soemthing smaller.
nemesis
15th July 2004, 22:14
What are the factors that lead you to the weapon you carry? What is the duration of your normal carry day?
I carry 1911's and variants because they are flat and concealable; unlike a lot of the fat guns out there. I don't have the luxury of wearing several shirts, vests and coats as I live in a semi-tropical climate and the amount of clothing worn here is minimal. I can't wear untucked shirts or "hawaian" shirts at work and I'd be conspicuous wearing same at Church.
I usually carry a 3.5 inch Springfield but occasionally sally forth with a full sized Kimber. My gun goes on when I dress in the morning and comes off whenever I happen to return home. Otherwise, I'm carrying unless in the Post Office.
I don't apologize for being p***** off at people who brag that they are quite adept at concealing their full sized fat butt guns under their untucked workshirts. That usually suggests to me that they are carrying after work and on weekends. Also, concealing with a large, loose, untucked shirt is something that may work in cooler northern climes and may be acceptable dress in some circles but I don't think it's an effective style for those who carry full time.
There are many of use carrying on a full time basis and we have to blend in with other people doing the same tasks that we are.
Stephen A. Camp
15th July 2004, 22:39
Hello.
Clothing restraints
Reliability
Meets minimal "power" requirements
My carry day is from when I get up until I go to bed, 15 to 17 hours.
Best.
Big Sky Rancher
16th July 2004, 22:59
Rabbi & Stephen what guns do you carry?
Ok I'll go. I like the 1911 platform because I can shoot it well and that gives me confidence. I like too that it is slim which makes it comfortable and concealable. This is important because if I shot a Desert Eagle well it doesn't mean that I would ever want to carry it.
Now I've got the platform and I experimented over a couple of weeks with carrying an all steel gov't model. I found it to be too heavy for long carry days. I typically carry for 15+ hours per day. So I purchased an aluminum framed gun. In CA the only aluminum framed 1911s are made by Kimber and Springfield. I liked the CDP better for its front strap checkering, overall quality and good night sights.
So I bought a Compact CDP II and I like it quite a bit. It's an accurate gun and it is very easy to carry concealed. Based on that gun I bought a Custom CDP II (full size) which I figured I might carry in the winter time or with a more substantial cover garment.
After going back and forth between the two CDPs I find myself carrying the Custom most often during the work week and the Compact on the weekend when I'm wearing shorts or if I'm wearing a suit. Both guns have been fitted with slim grips and ride in Versa Max 2 holsters. The Custom hides really well under an untucked shirt with this holster when it is worn at 3 o'clock.
Finally I picked up a Kahr PM9 to have a small gun that I could carry in a pocket or ankle holster for those times when it is too difficult to carry a larger gun. Since at times my small gun would need to serve as my primary gun I didn't want to dip below the 9mm threshold. Kahr's Micro pistols hold this niche all by themselves imho.
In CA I'm only allowed to have three guns listed on my carry permit and these three work well and cover a wide range of potentialities. Things I would change if I could is I would like to purchase a Les Baer aluminum frame Custom Carry if it were possible. However the Kimbers have been reliable good shooters so I look at switching to a Baer as a nicety rather than a necessity.
Stephen A. Camp
16th July 2004, 23:27
Hello. The vast majority of the time I am at home or in a very low-crime area. I tote a S&W Model 642 loaded with Remington 158-gr. SWCHP +P and one reload 24/7.
When I do feel the need for something having more shots or power, I normally carry either a 5" 1911 .45 (lightly customized Norinco) or a Springfield LW 5" of late. This is because of a project I'm working on that concerns 1911's and I'm simply more practiced with these right now.
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This Norinco has been lightly customized. I will eventually get around to fitting a Brown grip safety to it, but the Pachmayr drop-in works fine and was already paid for! The small original sights were just too small for me so I had some sights fitted by a gunsmith after determining the correct height needed and the gun's dead-on at 15 yards with 230-gr. JHP's. I normally tote the gun with Winchester Ranger RA45T, but am equally happy with Remington 230-gr. Golden Sabers. The pistol is capable of "good" though not match accuracy.
If my back's hurting or I just want to, I frequently carry a Springfield Armory Light Weight 5" .45. I've had this one a number of years. I've made a few changes to the way it came from Springfield.
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This is the other 1911 I frequently carry. Ammunition is the same as for the Norinco.
I'm not adverse at all to carrying a 9mm Browning Hi Power. When that's the choice, it is loaded with Winchester 127-gr. +P+, Remington 124-gr. JHP +P, or Remington 124-gr. Golden Saber +P.
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This Mk III has had a few alterations, but not many. It has been quite satisfactory as it came. It has Craig Spegel's checker delrin grips and I bobbed the hammer to prevent hammer bite. The right-side thumb safety lever is gone as I don't care for ambi's.
If carrying a "real gun" I do carry at least one extra magazine, but the snub and its reload is also present.
Most of the time, these would be my choices.
Here a time back, I was experimenting with different loads in a S&W Model 58
I'd found. I was going to a fellow's ranch to help him and knew I'd be making the 60+ mile drive back fairly late. I had my snub of course, but made sure that I had sufficient ammo for the .41 magnum. This was 6 170-gr. Corbon JHP's as well as two extra speed loaders for it.
Now and then I've also carried a Pre-B CZ-75 cocked and locked with the same ammo choices as for the Hi Power, but most of the time, my belt gun would be a 1911 .45 or 9mm Hi Power.
Best.
Mannlicher
30th October 2004, 20:33
The weather, the heat and humidity, in Miami, have a lot of influence on what and how I carry.
Having a reliable, and effective handgun is even more important than weather related constraints though.
At the Mall today, I carried a BHP Practical in .40, with two extra magazines. They disappear wearing jeans, a solid color tee shirt, and a sport shirt worn open, over that. Besides, no one expects an old bald guy with a beard to be packing.
Billboy45
30th October 2004, 23:06
The gun I carry the most is a Smith 640 J-frame in 38 simply because it is small. It is carried in one of several ways depending on what I'm doing and where I'm going. If it is going to be my only gun then most of the time it rides in a fanny pack but if I do use a holster it will be either a Kramer IWB or a Blade-Tec belt slide. If the 640 is being used as a backup gun then it goes into a ankle holster of unknown make that I picked up at a gun show.
Because I live on a boat in salt water I seldom carry a 1911 much these days. But when I do it is generally a 5” Kimber Custom though I do use an aluminum 4” Kimber Compact some. Both are used in a Hellweg Speed-Tac belt slide or a Kramer IWB. Because I do not want to sacrifice my beloved 1911s to the salt air I normally have been using either a Glock 19 or 17 when I have carried a larger gun then the 640. The Glocks are carried in either a belt slide or IWB rig both made by Blade-Tech.
To cover the guns I normaly just use a open shirt in the summer but as the weather gets cooler I start to use vests more and also coats or jackets. I might add that I buy my pants with the idea that I will be using a IWB holster a good deal.
My carry day is from when I get up till I go to bed.
ronkesser
5th November 2004, 19:15
Good question Brass
For your first question i would say that it depends where you are and what you are doing. For me, I work in a family jewerly store which puts me at high risk.
I wake up, brush my teeth, take a shower, get dressed and holster up. then i go to work, come home then when i go to bed i take it off put it under my pillow and sleep like a baby
Now depending on the weather i ether have a kreamer pocket holster with a s&w 38, and in the winter i have a galco miami classic with a springfield 1911 on my right side under a sport coat
schapman43
11th November 2004, 14:06
I work in a secured word environment so I am not allowed to carry while there. When not at work I carry a Customized Springfield under a 5.11 Royal Robbin Tac Vest.
Wild Turk
27th November 2004, 22:30
I dont carry day to day anymore (had CCW in one county, but moved and new county wont let anyone get one...one word CALIFORNIA).
Now, I carry only when I am hiking, fishing, or as a (unconcealed) sidearm while hunting. When hiking/fishing, I like to have the weapon conceled for a couple of reasons. First, dont want to make the granola eating hippies nervous when I pass them on the trail. Second, I do a lot of backpacking in Northern CA Dope growing country and dont want the bad guys to know I am packing if I run into them.
I find that a small of the back holster suits me fine, unless I am in some really rough country where I might have to scramble over boulders. In that case, I use a holster within a fanny pack. I cant draw it lightning quick, but quick enough to feel safe. I worry about cougars (seen 2 in my travels in the woods), and crazy backwoods types.
My choice of weapons varies depending what I am doing. If I am fishing, and might take a spill in the river (I am a fly fisherman), I choose the Colt Trooper .357. It is reliable and is the cheapest gun I own.... not too worried about it getting wet. When I can carry openly I always choose the Remington Rand 1911. If I need to conceal, I go for the 9mm Colt Combat Commander. Lets hope I never have the need to pull any of them out, but I feel a whole lot safer with them there.
Rezmedic54
6th April 2005, 08:48
Well living where I do in the winter you can pretty much carry anything but you can only take so much off in the summer so then I carry a Kel-Tac 32 on my person and have my trusty 45 in my ride. I look at it this way if I have to use it hopefully it will so them down enough so this old man can make it to the 45 and take care of business. Right now we have had a lot of home invasions in the area rom a gang coming up from Mexico. So even at home now I have one handy so I can fight my way to my 12 Gauge if neccessary but like all of us hope I never have to.
horse 91-A1
7th May 2005, 11:11
Carry a full slab Colt M1991-A1 SS in a smart carry - works with Wranglers, shirt tucked in and Western buckle to Columbia shorts and a light T when the Arizona weather heats up. Even when I sweat the smart carry doesn't get soaked so the Colt stays dry.
Bob
Sandman1967
23rd July 2005, 11:05
What are the factors that lead you to the weapon you carry? What is the duration of your normal carry day? Do you have particular clothing contraints or working conditions that have contributed to your choice? Do you switch carry guns and if so why?
No need to answer all the questions they're just posed to help spur discussion. What are your thoughts on this topic?
Do to the fact that my employer put a clause in the company handbook about NO GUN'S at work, I don't carry for 40 hours out of the week.
I tried several different gun's and wanted something that had the takedown power but was not to large feeling, I tried my Springfield XD-40 Tactical in the extreme duty holster that Springfield sales, But it was hard to conceal.
I do still carry my Kimber Raptor in a Uncle Mike's holster bag (fanny pack), but as they say "The gun never get any lighter" so now, I am using my new Kimber CDP Ultra II in either the holster bag or a Blackhawk Serpa holster.
What are the factors that lead you to the weapon you carry? What is the duration of your normal carry day? Do you have particular clothing contraints or working conditions that have contributed to your choice? Do you switch carry guns and if so why?
During the work week, I carry a J-frame S&W .38 revolver with 5 Winchester hollow point rounds and a speedloader with 5 more in a SmartCarry. This is because I need deep concealment due to my work clothes and environment.
There's also an additional speedloader in the car. ;)
When I am not at work, the .38 goes in the closet and the Springfield 1911 comes out. If I'm just around the house, I'll wear it OWB. If I'm going out, I switch it to IWB. I'm Condition 1 with the 1911 (7+1), and I almost always have a second magazine with 7 more.
While I like the .38 snubbie and know it will do the job, I prefer the greater power and accuracy of my full-size 1911 over the revolver. And I can more quickly get off 15 rounds with the 1911 than the 10 with the revolver.
emiddio
11th August 2005, 02:01
i used to carry colt defender 45acp all the time; now i shoot 1911 style mainly at the range, and more than the other guns. i dont carry GI or CMDR size for concealment. i may carry but not for concealment. all mine are also steel -- not lightweight alloy except for defenders. i will still carry defender according to mood; i now prefer crossdraw and sometimes will wear two holsters, crossdraw, and galco quick slide or concealable -- sometimes with 2 defenders -- or sometimes with 1 gun and more than 1 place to carry it depending on circumstances.
usually now i carry glock 29 or glock 36 or both -- in the same crossdraw, quickslide configuration -- sometimes 2 guns -- sometimes 1; primarily because of weight and i dont like to carry 1911 cocked and locked unless i perceive im in a dangerous area. so the glocks provide for no racking the slide.
if i'm trying to be very lightweight i carry the glock 36 only -- more often crossdraw.
while at home i have guns placed around the house --usually 1911 5" style and glock 20 10mm with tactical light.
also lots of time i wont carry on my person but do carry a rag with the glock 20 with me in the briefcase bag.
i live alone -- no kids here. every things is locked up when i'm gone.
fwarren94551
24th August 2005, 02:28
What to carry?
Most of the time in Seattle it was a 4" Colt Anaconda or a 5" LBC Concept V. Nobody ever wanted to attack me, though, so I got self a PPK, real PPK not /s on PP frame. And THAT would conceal in a pants pocket and no printing.
Mostly, now that I'm in CA again (No CCW available near any major city), I mostly pack the PPK (invisble) or don't carry as I live in a decent place where people not dealing drugs plain don't get attacked.
Hunter
29th August 2005, 22:05
Things to consider(or at least what I consider). Stopping power, dependability, accuracy, proficiency, capacity, concelabilty,reload time of weapon,availability of ammo. So far I think the 1911 .45 is hard to beat.
judd
31st August 2005, 00:51
I carry an M-249 Machine Gun with a drum of at least 100 rounds 24/7. I would rather be at home carrying my USP40 or experimenting with carrying my Fullsize 1911-A1. I never had a civilian job which allowed me to carry a weapon but I carry whenever Im not at work back home. I like carrying fullsize handguns because they work better in my hands when I draw. This costs me a certain amount of concealment but I never liked carrying compacts.
cincinnatus1
1st September 2005, 14:41
I hear that the first rule of surviving an armed confrontation is "bring a gun." I lean toward S&W Airweight J-Frame revolvers because they are easy to carry for extended periods, are easy to conceal, and are dead-bang reliable. :cool: These little guns are not easy to shoot accurately, though. My S&W 642 and S&W 640 have had trigger jobs and wear Crimson Trace laser grips. I recently acquired a lightly used S&W 317 for extended practice sessions. It also got a trigger job and laser grips. This is a considerable investment, but hey, what's your life worth? :eek:
I'm short and overweight, :o so IWB is not very realistic for me. I have enough trouble getting pants to fit without having to go to a waistband that is 2 inches larger. A full-size 1911 carried in an OWB holster is going to print when I carry it. I can get away with a Glock 36, Glock 27, or Kimber Ultra Carry II in an OWB holster when I'm wearing a jacket or sweat shirt. I'm thinking of buying a Kimber CDP II Compact one of these days. The shorter grip should help me to conceal that beauty under a jacket. :cool:
My Glocks are as reliable as revolvers, so I consider them to be proven carry pieces. The Ultra Carry II has passed my testing and may be carried later this year. I won't carry an autoloader until it has proven reliable over a sample of about 1,000 rounds. I can live with a failure once every 400 to 500 rounds. More than that makes me nervous. I love my 1911s for their accuracy and overall shooting qualities, but I absolutely worship the proven reliability of my Glocks.
In jacket/sweat-shirt weather, the primary gun will usually be an autoloader and the backup will be a 5-shot snubby.
In shorts-and-T-shirt weather, the 5-shot snubby will be primary and backup will be provided by a Kel-Tec P3AT. It has proven reliable and can be carried practically anywhere, including suspended around the neck. If the P3AT breaks, I have an equally reliable P32 that I can use while the P3AT is being repaired. I don't expect either of these guns to break, though. If they have a limitation, I would expect it to be standing up under heavy use. After initial breaking in and checkout, I have shot them sparingly.
Tom
2nd September 2005, 06:44
I lean toward S&W Airweight J-Frame revolvers because they are easy to carry for extended periods, are easy to conceal, and are dead-bang reliable. These little guns are not easy to shoot accurately, though.
I'll agree with these guns not being easy to shoot - with the +P ammo, it really "barks", and between the small grips and lightweight frame, there's nothing to tame the recoil. However, I practice with it nearly every time I am at the range, and I can get reasonable accuracy at 12-feet - which is about all I should expect from a less-than-two-inch barrel.
Morrisey
3rd September 2005, 10:16
To have a gun I can carry all the time, even when wearing lightweight walking shorts, I carry a Kel-Tec P3AT in a Hedley pocket holster (front pocket, dominant side). It's light, it's hard to hurt it, draws quickly, and it has dinner-plate accuracy from a point-aim at 25 feet, which is all I need in a carry gun (beyond 25 feet, self-defense becomes pretty hard to prove). I carry the same gun all the time because I'm used to it. It feels natural, like having your wallet in your pocket.
Tom
fwarren94551
4th September 2005, 18:58
Personally, during the 100 degree summer weather here in CA, I've gone "down" to a PPK in a Kramer pocket holster or Smart Carry (which is even more comfortable). The .380 is admittedly not much; it barely carries to 15" of penetration in ball form, which is close to ideal. But it does not dispose of much area. Better still is an SP101 with LHPs at +P velocities. And I have those!
Capacity does not matter much to me since I'm prone to avoid every possible fight I can. If, by some chance, I need more than 5 I've blown it. I'm seeking to avoid all possible confrontations and you can't get prosecuted when nobody gets shot. Besides, I'm old, and have nothing to prove. ymmv
Frank
Pointblank
20th October 2005, 18:21
I carry an SW1911sc. It's Commander-sized and has a Scandium-alloy lower. It only weighs 28 oz., but surprisingly little recoil. I currently have it loaded with Corbon DPX. These have 100% copper Barnes hollowpoints, 185gr +P. I feel very well armed.
grm
6th November 2005, 07:25
Always a Smith 442.Colt 1911 5 inch.I carry IWB and am rather tall and it conceals well.It is comfortable as well as being comforting :)
dickmartin
9th November 2005, 07:33
In summer, I often carry a 9x19mm Beretta 8000D Mini-Cougar in a Brigade Gunleather M6 Security leather belt-slide holster. Under a checkered or patterned shirt it disappears. When I'm wearing a more substantial cover garment my choice is usually my Kimber TLE II Stainless full-size M1911, .45ACP in a Kydex belt-slider from Uncle Mike's. I carry away from home whenever I can. If I must go somewhere where I can't carry, I go unarmed except for pepper spray. Here in Ohio, we have some pretty weird restrictions; e. g.: In a motor vehicle, loaded gun must be "holstered on the person's person and in plain sight" or locked up. Carry in any building owned, leased or controlled by any public, governmental agency is prohibited. Any private business may post a "no guns allowed" sign at the entrance, and if one carries a gun past the sign it's a "fourth degree misdemeanor." This can also apply to privately owned parking lots if the sign is at the entrance. I cope with this one by spending my money elsewhere, where I CAN carry.
Dick, Fairborn, OH
Morrisey
9th November 2005, 08:56
This can also apply to privately owned parking lots if the sign is at the entrance.
Michigan also has pistol-free zones (any location can declare itself one), and the "federal reservation" concept is probably one that will never get knocked down (the postal-worker who shot up the Royal Oak Post Office many years ago pretty much scotched that one). But state law says that the parking areas of Pistol Free Zones cannot be declared pistol-free as well. It's common sense: after you have driven a long distance to get somewhere, if there is a sign at the door that says "no firearms," you have to have a place where you can leave yours. In the CCW course here, we are advised to have lockboxes in our cars for that purpose.
I would urge you to work with NRA Institute for Legislative Action (www.nraila.org) to get your law changed so as to allow leaving a gun locked in your vehicle in the parking lot of a pistol-free zone. Ditto the "holstered in plain site" provision for driving. I realize that police would like this for the walk-up, but why should your car be any different from the street? And I would assume that this means motorcyclists have to carry in-plain-sight too; doesn't it scare motorists to see folks riding Harleys with .45s strapped to their hips?
The whole idea of concealed carry is to allow us to carry arms without unduly disquieting those around us. I have a legal right in Michigan to carry my gun in plain sight, but I do not so I won't make people nervous. It's common courtesy, not to mention comon sense.
Here in Michigan we are working to get rid of some of the more innane provisions of our CCW law. For instance, I can't carry into an entertainment complex with a capacity of more than 5,000. That means that I won't have my pistol with me when I am walking to my car after a night game at Comerica Park ... which is precisely when I would want to have a loaded pistol in my pocket.
Our legislators were able to get early provisions of our code (such as no carry in an establishment that serves alcohol) changed to a more temperate level (it's now no carry in an establishment that makes 50% or more of its income from alcohol -- I.e., a restaurant is okay, but a bar is not).
And I believe more changes are coming. Our governor (born in Canada) was adamantly opposed to CCW, originally. She now admits that she was wrong on that point, that CCW has not elevated gun crime, and that many crimes have dropped since institution (including carjacking, which was once a major problem in Detroit and has now all but disappeared). As the record provides more evidence, I believe more of the existing prohibitions will be dropped.
But we need to continue to suport the NRA, and to remain vocal about the 2nd amendment. Silence will only keep the doors shut.
Tom
dickmartin
9th November 2005, 10:03
Ohio still prohibits firearms in any establishment that serves alcohol for on-premises consumption.
We are working with the General Assembly (the state legislature) to make CCW in Ohio more user-friendly. I find the car-carry issue the biggest pain of all our odd restrictions. Many of us suspect the "plain sight in a motor vehicle" clause was inserted into the bill by the "antis", particularly Gov. Bob Taft and his appointee, the superintendent of the State Highway Patrol, as a "poison pill" to keep the bill from ever being passed. The "plain sight' requirement has resulted in some waste of police manpower. Scenario is that the CCW licensee wears his gun uncovered (as required) in the car. When he gets out of the car, he first makes sure both feet are on the ground or pavement and supporting his full weight, so he is not "in a motor vehicle." Only then does he cover up the gun (shirt tail, jacket, whatever.) This is what I do. Same applies to getting into the vehicle; I uncover the gun BEFORE getting into the car, while both feet are firmly on the ground. There have been cases where a citizen saw the gun during this transition, got alarmed, and called 911 to report "man with a gun." Of course, the cops have to check out every such report. So far this has not happened to me, but it has happened to several licensees who are carrying strictly within the requirements of the law.
I avoid leaving a gun in a locked car. I don't regard a locked vehicle as adequately secure. I don't want to lose a gun, nor do I want one of mine stolen and then used in a crime. My "solution" to the gun-free zones is to avoid them and do business (and spend money) elsewhere.
For updates on the Ohio CCW issue see Ohioans for Concealed carry web site at www.ohioCCW.org.
Dick
nedry
9th November 2005, 23:56
My choice of GI-clone 1911s (dual) was made for several reasons:
1. Comfort. With the muscles in "neutral", my hand defaults to pretty close to the shape your hand's in when wrapped around a 1911 grip, except for being at about 1/3- to half-wrap as opposed to full.
2. Confidence. I have more confidence in the combo of solid ordnance-steel, .45ACP 230-grain rounds, and John Browning's 1911 design than anything since.
3. Sentiment. My grandfather would have handled a number of 1911's during his quarter-century military career, and while his sidearms are lost to scrap, that doesn't stop me from owning something he wouldn't be able to tell apart from his.
4. Legal issues. If some overzealous prosecutor tries to demonize my iron (a common trick for gun-grabber DA's), I can respond by pointing out my weapon's heritage in defense of freedom, and that it's the weapon of choice for many LEOs.
5. Southpaw compatibility. You'd be surprised at the 1911's natural lefty-friendliness if you've never thought about it...
Just my thoughts.
Baa
10th November 2005, 20:58
My primary criteria for daily carry is reliability and concealability. My Kel-Tec P32 stays with me all day, every day. I spent a lot of time and effort prepping that pistol for reliability and it's loaded with Cor Bon JHPs, which are supposed to have a 1 shot stop percentage on par with a typical .380 caliber. Typically, I also carry a Springfield XD-40 Sub Compact, though I will probably switch to a 1911 commander or Sig 239 (flatter form factor) most of the time, though that gets locked in the car when I am at the office.
I live in FL, which makes it difficult to carry anything larger on a daily basis without going to a fanny pack or a constantly untucked shirt.
Tom
11th November 2005, 10:33
I live in FL, which makes it difficult to carry anything larger on a daily basis without going to a fanny pack or a constantly untucked shirt.
Well, howdy, neighbor. You might want to consider the SmartCarry belt. I use one of those nearly every day and it works really well.
Baa
11th November 2005, 16:15
Hello back!
No, I have not checked out that product, though I will.
thanks for the tip!
jridg
15th November 2005, 22:12
Why do I carry? Because we live in world that is dangerous.
I just got my Springfield Micro Compact. Prior to that I would carry my Glock 36 quite a lot. I have a couple of concealment rigs. One is a Sidearmor Tuckable for the G36 which I am quite happy with. When I cannot use the IWB, I have a Smart Carry holster which fits the Glock or the springfield very well.
chaplain
23rd November 2005, 15:28
How and what to carry is always a dilemma and trade off, I think.
For those who dress with pants and tucked in shirt (business casual) it's always a problem. Pocket holsters work well for me with a SW Airweight (442). I can also put that gun in an Uncle Mike's #4 pocket holster and put it under my tucked in shirt, and it stays put. Between the non-slip holster itself, and the butt sticking above the beltline it's been a charm. Now I haven't tried running or jumping fences like that, so I don't know HOW secure it is, but I THINK it would be perfectly secure.
I also carry a Glock 26 like that, under my shirt and belt, with a DeSantis Nemesis. Glock is too big for a pocket holster for me.
I just joined this forum and am thinking of carrying a .45 inside the waste band. I'll post my questions on that in a minute.
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