Singer 45

[c45man]

At a gun show in phila. area over the weekend. There was an all orginal Singer Gov. 45 including original clip with Singer Marking along with GI Box. Item was in good shape for well it should have been for asking price of $85,000. I understand that there was only 500 made and most of the ones that are still around and most are not orgininal, coming up short in many areas. To my knowledge, the show came and went and the seller toted the Singer to another show.

[tonka]

The saying is that of the 500 Singers produced, only 171,486 are known to still exist.

[Scott Gahimer]

Did you get the serial number of the pistol? I think it's been to several shows in the last few months, as it has been reported several times.

[bgiven]

.... including original clip with Singer Marking ......


Original Singer magazines had no markings.

[c45man]

Great quote Tonka......The Singer 45 seems to have the legendary lure of the original Buntline Specials.
Didn't get the serial number, the only number that hit me was the 85000 Scott
Thanks for the info BGiven.... Did any of the manufacturers out side of Colt have their markings on the clip??

Dealer in question was from North Jersey and had quite a collection of World War Era weapons

[Gator Monroe]

What mags had CR on them ?

[amtrac p-5]

I have been to his shop in lower n.y. , it is a real CANDY store,

he has quite a large # of ww2 firearms,you do need a second mortgage

to walk out with anything

[Doran]

The magazine ID sticky explains C-R markings along with many others.

http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=28256&page=2&pp=40

[Gator Monroe]

Thanx! (That's a super thread)

[Old Grump]

Great quote Tonka......The Singer 45 seems to have the legendary lure of the original Buntline Specials.
Didn't get the serial number, the only number that hit me was the 85000 Scott
Thanks for the info BGiven.... Did any of the manufacturers out side of Colt have their markings on the clip??

Dealer in question was from North Jersey and had quite a collection of World War Era weapons
S800001-S800500 was the serial number of Singer made 45's. Then the equipment to make them was shipped elsewhere so the Elizabethport plant could work on making firecontrol equipment. Singer made the following equipment
* .45 caliber automatic pistols
* M5 Director equipment to control the fire of 37mm and 40mm anti-aircraft guns
* B-29 gunfire control computers
* Hydraulic servo assemblies
* Subassemblies for the M7 Director 90mm anti-aircraft gun
* Gun turret castings for the B-29 bomber
* Castings for aircraft engine piston rings
* Gun sights for the Mark XV 3-inch, 5-inch, and 40mm anti-aircraft guns on naval ships
* Caliber .30 M1 carbine receiver
* Director M5 parts
* Parts for the Sperry Directional Gyro and Artificial Horizon instruments
* Housings and covers for the A3 Automatic Pilot
* Parts for the T-1 bomb sight
* Ammunition boxes
* Time and percussion fuses
* Variable pitch wooden propeller blades
* Special types of motors for fire control and other ordnance equipment

I have no idea what the serial number was but my first navy issue match 45 was a singer and I fired it in competition until the slide developed a crack from the bottom rear of the ejection port to the bottom of the slide. The gun was put out of service and if I had known what I had been shooting I would have done anything to buy it. The 500 guns made were supposed to have been models for educational purposes for other manufacturers. I have no idea how the navy got one or why they turned it into a match gun, would be an interesting story if I could find out.