The M1911 Pistols Organization Forums Site - Colt M1991a1 no pony on it. Why?

chevyext02

7th May 2008, 14:47

Hunter

7th May 2008, 15:22

None of my 1991A1s have the Rampant Pony rollmarked. I do not recall ever seeing one rollmarked as such stock from the factory.

chevyext02

7th May 2008, 15:33

I did alittle bit more research and I think I found the answer to my question :D ...........
There is an old thread from Member: OD
He sent is M1991a1 to Colt for some service and requested the pony as well..The pony has to go on mines too.....here is a picture of his M1991a1:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/chevyext02/gsp2.jpg

Hill

7th May 2008, 19:06

Mine has a archrd msh with lanyard loop, ambi safeties, short trigger, wide spur hammer, and the last three of it's serial number on the safeties, the barrel, the bushing, the bottom of the msh, and no horsie.

Jim Watson

7th May 2008, 19:16

He had the horsie applied by request to a gun sold without?
Oh, dear.
Another rare and valuable variation for the next generation of collectors.

Hill

7th May 2008, 19:40

He had the horsie applied by request to a gun sold without?
Oh, dear.
Another rare and valuable variation for the next generation of collectors.

Or not.
If they're like some of today's collectors they'll spot the
Fone' from across the room. Hammer, grips, sight, MSH, horsie....sheeesh, what a shame. Another Colt gone to bubba :)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p263/twagger/guns/Colt1991-1.jpg

Hill

7th May 2008, 19:45

Horsie ridin' the grip.

BT2012

7th May 2008, 19:52

It's like the "old" days when there used to be quite a few hood ornaments on cars. Now you have to ask as a special request.

chevyext02

7th May 2008, 20:28

Hill,
thats a good one "Horsie ridin' the grip".

If you would like to know more about it you can search his forum
under.........Here you go, Daveohno...

russel5150

7th May 2008, 20:48

chevyext02

7th May 2008, 20:57

i have had 3 of those style 91A1's. my only complaint on the guns were that they didnt have a pony on them. i know they are on the grips, but i never kept the stock grips on there anyway.

if i would have thought about it, i probably would have had colt stamp it on there. i have always liked the pony at the rear of the slide.

either way, the 1991A1 old rollmark 1911's were a value pistol, and they were very well built. wish i could find one now when i actually have the money in my pocket!!!

russel
SDMF
I don't mean to brag about mines but I bought mines for $470 on the AR15 forum....the pistol is in prestine condition.......a fellow soldier passed it to me & he stated he really had no use for it & had it kept in his safe collecting dust.........He originally had it for $450...I offered $470 so that he could bring it to me.........and vuala..........another Colt added to my collection........that makes me ten Colt 1911's richer.. :D

daveohno

7th May 2008, 21:06

Hill,
thats a good one "Horsie ridin' the grip".

If you would like to know more about it you can search his forum
under.........Here you go, Daveohno...
One of the Dan's reasons for that thread was to show me that a Rampant Colt could be added to a pistol. I was complaining that my Colt Custom didn't have a horsey and I was rather upset that it didn't have one.

I think that's kind of funny, Dan got a pistol "bubafied"....... I wonder which one of those gunsmiths at Colt is named "Bubba"? He just had the pistol modified by Colt to meet his specifications.

OD*

7th May 2008, 21:13

Another Colt gone to bubba :)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p263/twagger/guns/Colt1991-1.jpg
What?.......

OD*

7th May 2008, 21:20

Dave, I know you have a Sig or two, I also bubbafied my 228 with their short trigger.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/OD1911/Sig-shorttrigger.jpg

stock trigger,
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/OD1911/Sig228.jpg

daveohno

7th May 2008, 21:29

I only have the one. The guy sold the other one on me. I guess I took to long to give him the money. Does the trigger make a noticeable difference? Mine is a sharp little thing. It nearly cuts the finger if fired more than 100 rounds.

OD*

7th May 2008, 21:38

Makes a huge difference to me, much easier to reach the trigger on the DA shot.

OD*

7th May 2008, 21:52

Silly question but I though I'd ask.
I purchased a Colt M1991a1 Model: 01991 & I noticed that it doesn't have a pony on it.
I was doing some research on this forum & a member has the same model but at the end of the slide it has a pony on it.
Did some models have a the pony & some didn't? Anybody?. Thanks
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/chevyext02/colt2.jpg
There were a number of variations made over the course of the M1991A1s run, this is a O1991LCM (limited class model).

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/OD1911/O1991LCM.jpg

tacticalacp

7th May 2008, 22:12

Funny lookin colts

azreloader

7th May 2008, 23:13

Or not.
If they're like some of today's collectors they'll spot the
Fone' from across the room. Hammer, grips, sight, MSH, horsie....sheeesh, what a shame. Another Colt gone to bubba :)
Oh my! I can see the smoke coming out of his ears now. You're way off base refering to OD as a "Bubba" :scared:

OD*

7th May 2008, 23:16

Oh my! I can see the smoke coming out of his ears now. You're way off base refering to OD as a "Bubba" :scared:
Nah, just curious.

Hill

8th May 2008, 10:50

People who can't take a joke confuse me - a general observation.

OD*

8th May 2008, 10:56

It helps when the intention is clear, it doesn't always come across in the written media.

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 11:07

The Pony guys.......The Pony....

OD*

8th May 2008, 11:12

The Pony guys.......The Pony....
Send your slide to Colt and they will apply the Pony for $35.

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 11:17

?
If you are just sending in the slide, does it still have to go through an FFL holder or regular mail?

OD*

8th May 2008, 11:28

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 11:35

It does not have to go thru an FFL, the complete pistol doesn't have too either, if you are sending it to an FFL via a private carrier, FEDEX, UPS etc. If you send the complete pistol, you must use an FFL to send it by USPS. Your slide (just the slide) is not considered a firearm by BATFE regulations.
Very interesting information to me......so just send in the slide through USPS
Anyone in particular you would recommend at Colt's Manuf. to speak with regarding the pony stamp.
A phone# would really help out too. Thanks.

OD*

8th May 2008, 11:40

If you are sending just the slide, you can.
1-800-962-2658, anyone can answer your questions.

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 11:48

If you are sending just the slide, you can.
1-800-962-2658, anyone can answer your questions.
I going to send in this slide as well for the pony.
It is a Colt Custom ELCEN model. It has no pony on it.....just COLT CUSTOM
Would you recommend it or would the value drop on it?
Where would be a good place to have it stamped?

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 12:18

Started a new thread about its value of Colt models

Hill

8th May 2008, 12:38

It's not a pony, it's a horsie.

Ponies are those little fleabitten things on kid's ride-in-a-tethered-circle photo-ops. :)

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 13:05

LOL :lm:
I apologize.......Horsie it is..........let me do some corrections.

OD*

8th May 2008, 15:14

Actually, it is The Rampant Colt. ;)

azreloader

8th May 2008, 16:42

People who can't take a joke confuse me - a general observation.

Oh...it was a joke? Well then..... :lh:

daveohno

8th May 2008, 17:29

I going to send in this slide as well for the pony.
It is a Colt Custom ELCEN model. It has no pony on it.....just COLT CUSTOM
Would you recommend it or would the value drop on it?
Where would be a good place to have it stamped?
I would have it done because I like the Rampant Colt on my pistols.

It would not increase value, I don't think, it might decrease value some if you are keeping it for a collector piece. I shoot mine.

I would only have it done by Colt and keep the receipt to show that the factory did it for you.

If only sending the slide you can use the post office. If sending the whole pistol, it has to go by FedEx or UPS next day air and the recipient must have an FFL. They can send it back to you even though you don't have an FFL because they have one. If I didn't get this right, someone will be along and spank me shortly for screwing it up.

OD*

8th May 2008, 17:33

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/spank.gif

daveohno

8th May 2008, 17:36

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/spank.gif
HEY! Is that a specific spanking for the post or just cause I need one for general principle?

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 17:41

HEY! Is that a specific spanking for the post or just cause I need one for general principle?
Thanks for the comment Daveohno......
you just do what you do.......no specific spanking here.......

azreloader

8th May 2008, 17:43

If only sending the slide you can use the post office. If sending the whole pistol, it has to go by FedEx or UPS next day air and the recipient must have an FFL. They can send it back to you even though you don't have an FFL because they have one. If I didn't get this right, someone will be along and spank me shortly for screwing it up.
In a nutshell, you are correct. The key point is that in the case of a repair, there is no transfer of ownership, and that is the primary function of FFL paperwork. You sent it to them, they sent it back to you....no transfer. Depending on which carrier you use, you might get some push back if you try to go through one of those UPS Stores. They may tell you to take it to their distribution center.....that is if you tell them it's a pistol, instead of Machine parts! But be sure to insure it! :)

OD*

8th May 2008, 17:43

HEY! Is that a specific spanking for the post or just cause I need one for general principle?
No, you were correct.

That was just because you're fun to spank. ;)

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 17:52

No, you were correct.

That was just because you're fun to spank. ;)
LOL.....good come back....

azreloader,
machine parts would be a correct word to use...but what if they ask.....ok ready.......
Sir,
What kind of machine parts are you referring too?
:confused:

OD*

8th May 2008, 17:56

LOL.....good come back....

azreloader,
machine parts would be a correct word to use...but what if they ask.....ok ready.......
Sir,
What kind of machine parts are you referring too?
:confused:
Dave and I are friends, so we're not very nice to each other. :D

daveohno

8th May 2008, 18:03

Dave and I are friends, so we're not very nice to each other. :D

So that's what you call it..... ;)

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 18:03

Dave and I are friends, so we're not very nice to each other. :D
Your threads show ya'll been around for awhile...............I will try to keep up with ya...............hopefully I'll learn alittle more about my 1911's from you all...thanks

daveohno

8th May 2008, 18:09

Your threads show ya'll been around for awhile...............I will try to keep up with ya...............hopefully I'll learn alittle more about my 1911's from you all...thanks

It shouldn't be too hard, we're both Older than Dirt * , so we've lost a step or two along the way. :D Especially Dan...... ;)

chevyext02

8th May 2008, 18:15

It shouldn't be too hard, we're both Older than Dirt * , so we've lost a step or two along the way. :D Especially Dan...... ;)
LOL............ok now............maybe old...but well experienced..correct me if im wrong :) ............
I'm a beginner......ever since I laid eyes on a Colt 1911 I just thought they were the most precious looking pistols ever.......Since then......I have collected a few models.......

OD*

8th May 2008, 18:33

It shouldn't be too hard, we're both Older than Dirt * , so we've lost a step or two along the way. :D Especially Dan...... ;)
You'll pay for that David, you'll pay dearly. http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/evilbanana9.gif

daveohno

8th May 2008, 19:46

You'll pay for that David, you'll pay dearly. http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/evilbanana9.gif

I always do.....

OD*

8th May 2008, 20:44

I'll find you something you can't live without. ;)

d90king

8th May 2008, 20:51

I'll find you something you can't live without. ;)

I'm guessing that it will be very expensive but worth every penny. ;)

OD*

8th May 2008, 20:55

It's a game with us, Patrick, I try to get all Dave's money and he tries to keep a few bucks. Bawhahahahaha.......

Poohgyrr

9th May 2008, 04:03

:D

What a thread....... I'll ask Mrs Pooh if she wants the Rampant Colt on her ORM. I think it would look better...

OD*

9th May 2008, 09:33

:D

What a thread........
It has taken on a life of it's own. ;)

chevyext02

9th May 2008, 10:05

Should we make this a round 2 debate for today.......... :geek:

OD*

9th May 2008, 10:21

Nah, Colt has always called it, The Rampant Colt. People can call it a Rampant Chicken if they wish, I'll go by what the originators call it. :p ;)

chevyext02

9th May 2008, 10:22

Nah, Colt has always called it, The Rampant Colt. People can call it a Rampant Chicken if they wish, I'll go by what the originators call it. :p ;)
Tha name sounds too long..............but I guess it is what it is....
The Rampant Colt........ :appld: :appld: :appld: :appld:

daveohno

9th May 2008, 17:16

I'll find you something you can't live without. ;)

He's done that several times now......

Intercessor

11th May 2008, 13:22

Does the slide need to be refinished after rampant Colt was marked on the slide? In the picture of that one, the mark looked black like the slide was refinished.

tailgunner

11th May 2008, 13:29

No, refinish is not necessary; I didn't when I had the rampant Colt added to my 1991A1.

pjsjr

11th May 2008, 16:20

There were a number of variations made over the course of the M1991A1s run, this is a O1991LCM (limited class model).

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/OD1911/O1991LCM.jpg

OD* does that 01991LCM have a flared ejection port???? You gotsa pic??? TIA, Preston

OD*

12th May 2008, 23:10

OD* does that 01991LCM have a flared ejection port???? You gotsa pic??? TIA, Preston
You know, I don't honestly remember. :o

JustinTime owns the pistol now.

pjsjr

12th May 2008, 23:44

You know, I don't honestly remember. :o

JustinTime owns the pistol now.

Thanks, OD*, perhaps he'll see this and post, if not I'll PM him. Preston

OD*

13th May 2008, 08:18

You're welcome, Sir. ;)

JustinTime

13th May 2008, 09:51

OD* does that 01991LCM have a flared ejection port???? You gotsa pic??? TIA, Preston

Preston, the LCM doesn't have a flared ejection port. The picture Dan posted is just how she came from Colt. She looks a bit different now.

A little something like this:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/LCM.jpg

JustinTime

13th May 2008, 09:55

Oh boy, I've been missin out on a lot of fun in this thread. Thats what working 84 hours a week will get ya.

pjsjr

13th May 2008, 10:03

Thank you, JustinTime, your pistol looks great and shoots(you) terrific. I love it when I see the muzzle looking like that :) .

I have a 1991 A1 and love it. I bought a 91 A1 slide that had work done to it, part of which was a flared EP and was curious if it came that way from Colt's. Again, thanks, Preston

chevyext02

13th May 2008, 10:14

Oh boy, I've been missin out on a lot of fun in this thread. Thats what working 84 hours a week will get ya.
How's it going Justin,

This forum is getting addictive as well.....I just arrived to work and here I am..........

OD*

13th May 2008, 17:03

Preston, the LCM doesn't have a flared ejection port. The picture Dan posted is just how she came from Colt. She looks a bit different now.

A little something like this:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/LCM.jpg
I shoulda kept that pistol. ;)

JustinTime

14th May 2008, 04:03

JustinTime

14th May 2008, 04:05

How's it going Justin,

Tired! Nah, everything is fine on this end how bout you?

JustinTime

14th May 2008, 04:06

I shoulda kept that pistol. ;)

Yep, I told ya you regret it.

daveohno

14th May 2008, 05:21

Dan is always wheelin' and dealin'. he'll probably talk you out of it soon. He'll find something that you just gotta have and off it will go.

OD*

14th May 2008, 08:53

Yep, I told ya you regret it.
Yes you did. :p

OD*

14th May 2008, 08:57

Dan is always wheelin' and dealin'. he'll probably talk you out of it soon. He'll find something that you just gotta have and off it will go.
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1972_dancing_monster.gif

daveohno

14th May 2008, 17:26

http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1972_dancing_monster.gif

That is a wolf, right? If so, where are your sheep's clothes? :eek:

I have made offhand comments about pistols I wouldn't mind having and before you know it, Dan is there with the firearm saying, "Look what I found, and it's only insert price here."

He still hasn't found me a bargain basement hard chrome or stainless long slide yet..... I better leave that alone, it's almost like a challenge, he'll pop up with one any time now, just to show me he can.

OD*

14th May 2008, 18:43

It's some kinda monster, Dave. :D

Hmm, long slide in HC or stainless, I'll put special interest on this one amigo. ;)

daveohno

15th May 2008, 04:47

It's some kinda monster, Dave. :D

Hmm, long slide in HC or stainless, I'll put special interest on this one amigo. ;)

I think it's a boogie wolf.

Special interest...... I'm doomed for sure. A Baer longslide will show up for sure.

OD*

15th May 2008, 08:21

;)

.....

chevyext02

15th May 2008, 15:43

I think it's a boogie wolf.

Special interest...... I'm doomed for sure. A Baer longslide will show up for sure.
boogie boogie boogie

Hill

16th May 2008, 13:12

It's not stainless, or hardchromed, but will a 1967 Jim Clark Heavy Long Slide do in a pinch? You could have it hardchromed................I guess.

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8608331