Look at this. I think this is a great deal. If not why

[fire_hunter988]

my wife wont let me. so i give it to you.
http://www.e-gun.net/classifiedsMore.asp?aid=109164

[pa_guns]

Hi

I'm not quite sure why I would want to pay $100 more for a used pistol than the exact same thing costs brand new. With the new one you get a lifetime warranty. Not so with the slightly older ones ....

Bob

[MCMIX]

According to the 2008 Colt catalog the least expensive 1911 GM in stainless is $839.00. However the used one has an enhanced hammer, beavertail,ejection port work and who knows what else. This clearly is more than a plain jane Colt. I would buy it this minute if possibe.





Hi

I'm not quite sure why I would want to pay $100 more for a used pistol than the exact same thing costs brand new. With the new one you get a lifetime warranty. Not so with the slightly older ones ....

Bob

[vashooter]

my wife wont let me. so i give it to you.
http://www.e-gun.net/classifiedsMore.asp?aid=109164I guess I hate to agree to disagree, but there is a big idiot scratch on the slide release which I can see even from the pics. But I have OCD and I have to agree that a new one I could put my own Idiot mark on it. Floyd

[Hunter]

For just under $600 shipped I don't think that is a bad deal on that Colt.

[wichaka]

Not sure I would classify it as a collectors model........but it's not bad. It's an enhanced model. I have one just like it, and it's been good right out of the box.

[Rich-D]

Having searched the Auction Sites I agree with Hunter. The price is reasonable. In dealing with an unrated seller who is not an FFL, I take some extra precautions. In such cases, I utilize US Postal Money Order's only. Made out to the seller, but sent to the FFL who is shipping the gun. I include instructions to give the MO to the seller when the item is in the FFL's possession for shipping. .

If the item is being shipped directly to my FFL, by the non FFL seller. My FFL will remit the MO upon receipt of the item. I inform the seller that the procedure is customary in dealings with a non FFL.

Utilizing US Postal Money Orders insures the protections of the US Postal Authorities.


Rich

[paul45]

Well....I must agree. 595 is a nice price. It is an enhanced MKIV so it was made from '92 to end of production.

However, Me.......I would shop further and put that 595 down on layaway on something else!

[elijdub]

I noticed two things that don't look "stock" to me....hopefully someone can veryify this:
1) the ejection port is "flared" but not lowered...
2) it has an arched MSH...

Am i correct in assuming that this Colt has had a little work done to it (i.e., non-original)? If so, and it's not in original condition, then i'm not so sure about the price.

[pa_guns]

Hi

When I hit it the price showed as $950 plus shipping ....

Bob

[pa_guns]

Hi

When I hit it the price showed as *** $950 *** plus shipping. It seems to have have dropped a bit since my comment. I wonder if the OP has a connection to the ad?

Bob

[d90king]

I noticed two things that don't look "stock" to me....hopefully someone can veryify this:
1) the ejection port is "flared" but not lowered...
2) it has an arched MSH...

Am i correct in assuming that this Colt has had a little work done to it (i.e., non-original)? If so, and it's not in original condition, then i'm not so sure about the price.


Eli I think its correct. The MSH is what was on MKIV's. I think the port is part of the Enhanced Model but not sure.

[wichaka]

The port comes that way on the enhanced models.

[Rich-D]

Hi
When I hit it the price showed as $950 plus shipping ....
Bob

Hi
When I hit it the price showed as *** $950 *** plus shipping. It seems to have have dropped a bit since my comment. I wonder if the OP has a connection to the ad?
Bob

Bob, Cheap Liquor and Surly Woman, have taken their toll! Not only do they make you see what isn't there, you forget posting immediately after posting! :lm:


Rich

[Hawkmoon]

If the item is being shipped directly to my FFL, by the non FFL seller. My FFL will remit the MO upon receipt of the item. I inform the seller that the procedure is customary in dealings with a non FFL.
Rich, you may inform the seller that this arrangement is "customary," but IMHO it is far from customary, and if I were the seller I would not agree to it. If you have been able to convince sellers to actually send you a gun before they get their money -- you're a better salesman than I could ever hope to be.

[Rich-D]

Rich, you may inform the seller that this arrangement is "customary," but IMHO it is far from customary, and if I were the seller I would not agree to it. If you have been able to convince sellers to actually send you a gun before they get their money -- you're a better salesman than I could ever hope to be.

I was an Insurance Broker prior to joining the Police Dept. It is amazing how much the sales training assisted me in investigative work. Out of 4 Internet dealings sent directly to my FFL from a non FFL, only one person balked, as he had credibility on another auction site. Which was excellent, so I sent him the M.O.


Rich

[larry starling]

Well....I must agree. 595 is a nice price. It is an enhanced MKIV so it was made from '92 to end of production.

However, Me.......I would shop further and put that 595 down on layaway on something else!
While Enhanced MKIV's are getting harder to find now days. I think your money would be better spent on a newer Colt...... :)

[Joni Lynn]

That seems like a decent price.

[pa_guns]

Bob, Cheap Liquor and Surly Woman, have taken their toll! Not only do they make you see what isn't there, you forget posting immediately after posting!


Rich

Hi

I gotta run up that post count any way I can. I'd hate to fall back in the rankings. :D :D :D

Must have hit reply rather than edit - sorry about that.

The price was indeed much higher when the original post was made. That's what I was reacting to in my post.

Bob

[Joni Lynn]

I was wondering where you got the higher price from.
Not going to blame it on the puppies huh? :)

[pa_guns]

I was wondering where you got the higher price from.
Not going to blame it on the puppies huh? :)

Hi

The lab has taken to walking around on the computer keyboard while I'm trying to type. It does make things a little challenging. :D

Bob

[Joni Lynn]

So the lab thinks it's part cat now huh?

[wetidlerjr]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich-D
If the item is being shipped directly to my FFL, by the non FFL seller. My FFL will remit the MO upon receipt of the item. I inform the seller that the procedure is customary in dealings with a non FFL.


Rich, you may inform the seller that this arrangement is "customary," but IMHO it is far from customary, and if I were the seller I would not agree to it. If you have been able to convince sellers to actually send you a gun before they get their money -- you're a better salesman than I could ever hope to be.

I agree. You would never get that deal from me for any reason.

[Rich-D]

Quote:
I agree. You would never get that deal from me for any reason.


And you would not get my money! :lm:

Not referring to wetidlerjr, I am not sending out the cost of a gun to some unknown and unrated seller. Which the first post in this thread refers to, who would refuse to deal with an established FFL. If others take the chance, that is their decision. However IC3 the Internet Fraud Site is swamped with complaints, from previously trusting buyers.

I would send the funds to an established and rated seller, but no unknown is being sent my money. Deals that just can't be passed up, are notorious for fraud. I would rather pay a few bucks more for the assurance of dealing with established folks. I did not join in on Ty's group buy for the same reasons stated.


Rich ;)

[fire_hunter988]

Hi

When I hit it the price showed as *** $950 *** plus shipping. It seems to have have dropped a bit since my comment. I wonder if the OP has a connection to the ad?

Bob
no this is not mine. i just thought it was a good deal. i would buy it if i could

[elijdub]

Eli I think its correct. The MSH is what was on MKIV's. I think the port is part of the Enhanced Model but not sure.
The port comes that way on the enhanced models.
Thanks for the clarification gents. I never noticed the flared ejection port on "enhanced" Colts before.

[pa_guns]

So the lab thinks it's part cat now huh?

Hi

Yes, she's convinced she's a cat. She also likes to curl up on your shoulder ....

Bob

[Joni Lynn]

Just wait until its hairball time. :)

[pa_guns]

Just wait until its hairball time. :)

Hi

Given everything she tries to wolf down, we have hairball time all the time.

Bob

[torrejon224]

Notice he only wants paypal or a personal check! Seems odd but at least with paypal you have some degree of protection. Still listed at $595, seems like a decent price but your always taking a risk unless he's willing to give you a few days to inspect it upon receipt.

[pa_guns]

Hi

Paypal is not very weapons friendly. It would not be my choice on a firearms transfer.

Bob

[wetidlerjr]

And you would not get my money! :lm:...I would send the funds to an established and rated seller, but no unknown is being sent my money...

Rich ;)

Nor would I expect you to but I, in the same sense, would be a fool to hand over goods in advance of payment to an FFL dealer or whomever. Even on this board, I have no direct knowledge of your honesty or lack thereof and you of mine.

I avoid this problem by not buying guns online. Works for me ! :D

[pa_guns]

Hi

The whole process of handing over money for any "remote" big ticket transaction is a bit scary. Even with a "established" individual you can run into trouble. I'm probably out $450 on various online transactions over the last 15 years. That's well under 1% ....

Bob

[Rich-D]

Hi

The whole process of handing over money for any "remote" big ticket transaction is a bit scary. Even with a "established" individual you can run into trouble. I'm probably out $450 on various online transactions over the last 15 years. That's well under 1% ....

Bob

I have been very lucky with my 80 plus transactions made on GunBroker and Auction Arms over the past 7 years. Almost all of my gun purchases since 2001, have been made on line.


Rich

[Joni Lynn]

I received an email from GunsAmerica to warn to the increased level of fraud they have on their site.
They say any item priced too good to be true probably is too good to be true.

[Rich-D]

I am not sending out the cost of a gun to some unknown and unrated seller. Which the first post in this thread refers to, who would refuse to deal with an established FFL. If others take the chance, that is their decision. However IC3 the Internet Fraud Site is swamped with complaints, from previously trusting buyers.

I would send the funds to an established and rated seller, but no unknown is being sent my money. Deals that just can't be passed up, are notorious for fraud. I would rather pay a few bucks more for the assurance of dealing with established folks. I did not join in on Ty's group buy for the same reasons stated.

Rich ;)

The notice from Guns America, which I have also received, reiterates what I related in my previous posts. One must be very cautious and take extra precautions when dealing on the Internet!

Rich

[pa_guns]

Hi

The biggest risk is when you run into somebody using a hijacked identity. If they are good at it, there are very few ways to detect what's happened.

Bob

[Joni Lynn]

Oh joy.............just what I need to know. :( I prefer to do my gun adoptions face to face anyway.

[pa_guns]

Hi

You mostly see the hijack stuff on the auction sites. Some people are not as careful with their passwords as they should be. Best way to check is to take a look at older auctions and be sure the details like phone numbers have not changed.

Bob

[Rich-D]

Hi

You mostly see the hijack stuff on the auction sites. Some people are not as careful with their passwords as they should be. Best way to check is to take a look at older auctions and be sure the details like phone numbers have not changed.

Bob

On the two major auction sites GunBroker and AuctionArms, one cannot access the sellers information unless they have won an auction by that seller.


Rich

[pa_guns]

On the two major auction sites GunBroker and AuctionArms, one cannot access the sellers information unless they have won an auction by that seller.


Rich

Hi

That presents a problem in figuring out what's going on. The only alternative on those sites is to look at the data embedded in older auction listings.

Bob