Current Sig 1911s

[ranburr]

I was looking at a new Sig C3 today. It is pretty obvious that a number of people are supplying parts still. The slide stop was a Wilson Bulletproof, the grip safety was Caspian, etc. One part that I really liked was the thumb safety. Any idea who is supplying it? Oh yeah, I didn't buy it. Slide to frame fit was outstanding as was the overall fit and finish. It was at Bass Pro Shop and they refused to take the trigger lock off and allow me to try the trigger. I'll wait and buy from somebody who will allow me to at least dryfire the thing once. Oh well, if anyone knows who makes that thumb safety, please let me know.

ranburr

[pa_guns]

Hi

That's strange. I've never had that happen at the local Bass Pro. I wonder if you had a guy who was not from the gun department helping you. Most stores only give out the keys to the "gun guys".

Bob

[ranburr]

The store policy was that the locks don't come off the guns inside the store. Any idea about who makes that thumb safety?

ranburr

[pa_guns]

The store policy was that the locks don't come off the guns inside the store. Any idea about who makes that thumb safety?

ranburr

Hi

No idea on the thumb safety. I haven't really looked at a C3 very closely.

Strange on the store policy. I've seen that kind of thing at Dunham's, but never at Bass Pro.

Bob

[torrejon224]

FWIW, Cylinder & Slide make the thumb safety and I read that Greider made the slide stop.

[ranburr]

FWIW, Cylinder & Slide make the thumb safety and I read that Greider made the slide stop.

It was defineately a Wilson slide stop. It wasn't a C&S thumb safety.

ranburr

[venenoindy]

I has happen to me at big retail stores that some of the people working behind the counter have not taken the lock off but in the same token some years ago a person ask to see a shotgun put live shell in it and kill himself at one of the sporting goods stores around here.

[pa_guns]

Hi

I mentioned this all to one of the guys at work and he pointed out that if I got the trigger lock off of a gun at Bass Pro, I was the only one on the planet that had ever done so.

Apparently I must have been there on a slow day or something.

Bob

[jwalters700]

If this has been asked before please forgive me. But how des the Sig 1911's compare to say a Colt or Para?

[d90king]

As a owner of a Sig 229 .40 with the Crimson grip, I will say that it is a great pistol for how it is used(bio safe next to the bed). That said a Sig for a 1911 would not be a consideration for me. Out of respect for the thread that this was started in I feel its not proper for me to make a recomendation in this thread (If it was in the General Discussion thread I would love to comment) ;)

[d90king]

Oh and welcome to the forum.

[pa_guns]

If this has been asked before please forgive me. But how des the Sig 1911's compare to say a Colt or Para?

Hi

I think that the SIG P220, 226 and 229 are absolutely first rate pistols. I own "several" 1911's but none from SIG.

Bob

[mabella]

Basically a parts gun with metallurgy issues, lots of posts and complaints regarding rust.
IMO, better off with a Colt or SA

[pa_guns]

Hi

Some people get very good performance out of their SIG 1911's. Sometimes that's right out of the box, other times it's after some work. I would certainly not throw one away if somebody gave me one.

Bob

[akr]

I have 2 "terrible 1911's", a Sig XO and a Taurus PT1911. They just keep on doing what they are supposed to do with no problems, and I wouldn't sell either one of them.

[pa_guns]

Hi

Once a 1911 settles in and starts running right, it's generally going to do so for a good long time. The problem pistols are often a pain right from day one.

Bob

[Pathfinder]

I have looked at the SIG 1911's from time to time. Heard some positive, but mostly negative inputs regarding their performance. My experiences with the SIG 220, 226 and 229 were all so good, I have decided to research them out again. Any thoughts, insights, experiences both good and bad will be appreciated. Pricing is in the same range of Kimber for the 1911's so it would be a nice alternative to purchasing more of the 'higher priced spreads.' I look forward to learning more about the SIG Sauer 1911's.

[pa_guns]

Hi

The issue seems to be that the "normal" SIG pistols were designed from scratch with modern manufacturing in mind. I'm sure that there is very little fitting done on a modern SIG, they machine up the parts and put them together.

People have been trying to make a 1911 by putting parts together for at least 80 years now. Regardless of who tries it, they have problems. There is a certain amount of fitting needed on a 1911. I'm sure that SIG is learning this as time goes by.

Bob

[JonCombatCdrGSR]

I am exceptionally pleased with my GSR XO. In my shooting career, I've owned virtually all of the P-Series pistols (the ones that I've hung on to are my P225, P210-6, and P229 w/.357 and .40 barrels-there weren't any problems with the others that I've had, it's just that we gun owners can be a fickle lot, continuously selling or trading for some new alleged "best of the best"!). I've found the GSR to be an exceptional 1911. Yes, it needed to be sent back to SIG after 500 rounds for some adjustments (the disconnector wasn't allowing a short trigger reset, the grip safety was rubbing on the hammer strut were the main things). SIG paid shipping both ways, replaced the disconnector and the grip safety, and tuned the action to a consistant 4 lb triggerpull-and comp'ed me a set of grips and a magazine for some minor cosmetic milling imperfections on the slide (mine was literally one of the first of the XO's). I prefer to use Check-Mate Hybrid 8rd magazines, and the Novak magazines which did not develop feed lip cracks (2 of my 5 did-SIG immediately replaced them).

Anticipate a 500-round break-in period. Anticipate a loose rear sight-it's merely "slip fitted" in the dovetail, so bring an appropriate hex bit to the range to tighten it down, adjust, and then later secure it with locktite on the grubscrew that secures it.

I unhesitatingly use mine for carry, IDPA, and steel plate competitions.

Best, Jon

[SeaAggie86]

It was at Bass Pro Shop and they refused to take the trigger lock off and allow me to try the trigger. I'll wait and buy from somebody who will allow me to at least dryfire the thing once.
ranburr

I have only had that happen to me at Bass Pro Shops, as well. The reasoning behind it is based on a couple incidents in the recent past. One, which I can recall, happened at my local Academy store. A guy walks in, heads to the firearms/hunting section, and asks to see a Remington 870. The clerk takes the trigger lock off, checks the weapon, and hands it over. The "customer" then proceeds to take the 870, place a live round, from his pocket, into the chamber and rack the slide. The clerk was left staring down the barrel of the now-loaded weapon. Needless to say, I am sure such an incident would never happen at a gunstore which allows its employees to work armed and ready. However, when places like Bass Pro Shops trust neither their employees or customers, what else can you do but go somewhere else?

- jb -

[Gila Jorge]

Have the Platinum Sig Carry model and find it absolutely accurate and reliable right out of the box...no hiccups whatsoever...and about as nice as my
NightHawk Talon 2 BobTail...now when I get the Sig BobTailed it will be my main carry model...along with my Wilson Sentinel round butt...

[LesBaerTRS]

Our Bass Pro will also not take the trigger locks off. Plus their prices are stupid high. I don't think they sell many guns.

Sigs quality control these days is in the toilet so I would not buy a 1911 from them when their stanard psitols are having fit, finish, and functionality issues. Thats what happens when you hire the ex president of Kimber to run your company.


Hi

I mentioned this all to one of the guys at work and he pointed out that if I got the trigger lock off of a gun at Bass Pro, I was the only one on the planet that had ever done so.

Apparently I must have been there on a slow day or something.

Bob

[1911-SS]

I have a SIG C3. IMO it is a good pistol - comparable to my Springfield's, but not to my higher end models. IMO it needs an action job - but of course all my 1911s have a nice one so this is what I accustomed to. Ron Phillips has mine at present and is doing some other modifications to it as well.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/DocJN/C3-11.jpg?t=1214007675

[sigarmsguy]

I own one of the first 100 GSR's out of the plant....no doubt this gun was watched over by Matt McLearn himself as it has never had an issue of any kind. I now have over 20K rounds through the gun and have just replaced the barrel with a Schumann Match barrel. Not that the old one was out of spec...just wanted to try something different. I purchased a new C3 to replace my completely worn out Kimber CDP II Custom. The C3 has run out of the box 100%, no issues...even feeds 185G Lead wadcutters.
A comment regarding Bass Pro Shops. The corporate policy at Bass Pro is to keep trigger locks on ALL firearms until the unit is sold and is leaving the store. If you bring in a firearm to fit a holster or purchase an accessory, you are required to stop at customer 'dis-service' and have a trigger lock installed on your personal firearm prior to entering the store. Bass Pro does not sell any concealed carry (short barrel) firearms...none under 3"( a few Para Warthogs made it by accident and were sold). It is this philosophy that keeps me from purchasing ANY products from Bass Pro. Face it...Bass Pro is a fishing store that has firearms....Cabela's and Sportsman's Warehouse are hunting stores that carry fishing gear. How do I know this? As a bored, retired former Sigarms manager I thought some part time work at BP would be fun; anything to keep me from lurking on various forums all day....WRONG. Now happily completely retired again! Anyway, my .02 worth
HooYa

[pa_guns]

Hi

Here in PA the contrast between Gander Mountain, Cabela's and Bass Pro is pretty amazing. Each has their own approach. It's been a *long* time since I bought anything at Bass Pro ....

Bob

[XGunslinger]

I own one of the first 100 GSR's out of the plant....no doubt this gun was watched over by Matt McLearn himself as it has never had an issue of any kind. I now have over 20K rounds through the gun and have just replaced the barrel with a Schumann Match barrel. Not that the old one was out of spec...just wanted to try something different. I purchased a new C3 to replace my completely worn out Kimber CDP II Custom. The C3 has run out of the box 100%, no issues...even feeds 185G Lead wadcutters.
A comment regarding Bass Pro Shops. The corporate policy at Bass Pro is to keep trigger locks on ALL firearms until the unit is sold and is leaving the store. If you bring in a firearm to fit a holster or purchase an accessory, you are required to stop at customer 'dis-service' and have a trigger lock installed on your personal firearm prior to entering the store. Bass Pro does not sell any concealed carry (short barrel) firearms...none under 3"( a few Para Warthogs made it by accident and were sold). It is this philosophy that keeps me from purchasing ANY products from Bass Pro. Face it...Bass Pro is a fishing store that has firearms....Cabela's and Sportsman's Warehouse are hunting stores that carry fishing gear. How do I know this? As a bored, retired former Sigarms manager I thought some part time work at BP would be fun; anything to keep me from lurking on various forums all day....WRONG. Now happily completely retired again! Anyway, my .02 worth
HooYa
I like my C3 a lot, but actually prefer the 5" reverse 2 tone rail, as they call it just because, I guess. I did get mag bumpers for the C3. Like the look better, even if you lose a bit of concealment.
As far as places to buy a gun or gun 'stuff': I stick to places that are gun friendly, like Sportsmens Warehouse and Specialty Sports here in the Springs. Putting a lock on my legally concealed, or open carried (also legal in CO) handgun just ain't gonna happen. That tells me they don't want my business, and I'm happy to comply.