View Full Version : Should I carry my new Colt gunsite CCO? Or leave it NIB?
rk246
5th January 2008, 01:28
I just picked up today my new Colt Gunsite CCO, It seems to be NIB like advertised. I just wasn't sure if it will become a collector at some point, or if I should just shoot and carry it.
Thanks,
RJ
Mickey D
5th January 2008, 01:41
Well, I believe anything can become a collactable to those interested in collecting it. There is always potential for a unique model Colt to be desired in years to come, and the better the condition would make it more desirable.
Why did you purchase it?
Mike
nc-gun-guy
5th January 2008, 02:55
It all depends on what you want to do with it.
I personally wont own a gun that I don't intend to shoot. In other words, if I won't shoot it, I wont own it!
On one hand it could end up a collectible, but on the other hand it might end up like many other guns out on the market, just another gun.
maximus2161
5th January 2008, 03:12
I have 4 Colts, and as a matter of fact my first Colt was a stainless 70 Series Gunsite Gov I aquired at the beginning of last Dec. I am not a collector but my recent Colt (an original 70 Series blued Gov made in 1978 in MINT condition) may spend more time in the safe. Who knows.
I would carry the Gunsite without hesitation. I dont know what they would be worth from a collection standpoint NIB say 10 or 20 years from now. I dont if the CCO is more valuable than the Gov....someone here will be sure to know. But I understand your delimma. I vote you carry and shoot it! But its YOUR gun so do what makes you happy.
Grats on the Gunsite too! Nice choice!
elijdub
5th January 2008, 09:20
The Gunsight CCO's will undoubtedly be worth more money in years to come, as they're produced in limited numbers and always in high-demand (for good reason...GREAT pistols!).
That said, i wouldn't bother trying to keep it NIB, unless you have two of 'em by chance ;).
It all depends on why you purchased the gun; is it a carry gun? If so, i say, carry it and take good care of it. The gun will still be worth money if it has a little honest wear on it. I couldn't help myself...i'd shoot it (and carry it), no question!
BTW, how 'bout some pics?!
73Driver
5th January 2008, 09:41
I went through this same internal questions when I purchased my third Colt, should I shoot it or leave it NIB. I decided if I wanted an investment, I would have taken the money and put it in a savings account. The compound interest would have made more money in the end. I am going to shoot it but take REAL good care of it. Sam
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/73Driver/First.jpg
Rio Vista Slim
5th January 2008, 09:56
I went through this same internal questions when I purchased my third Colt, should I shoot it or leave it NIB. I decided if I wanted an investment, I would have taken the money and put it in a savings account. The compound interest would have made more money in the end. I am going to shoot it but take REAL good care of it. Sam
Beautiful pistol Sam!! :D
Many years ago, I bought a couple of Single Action Army Colts. At that time, there was no such thing as Cowboy Action Shooting, so the majority opinion was to put them in a safe. I couldn't stand it (like others have mentioned, I shoot my guns), so I traded them away.
I couldn't help myself...i'd shoot it (and carry it), no question!
BTW, how 'bout some pics?!
Eli is Right! We NEED photographs! :wl:
elijdub
5th January 2008, 10:21
Beautiful pistol Sam!! :D
Absolutely!
Many years ago, I bought a couple of Single Action Army Colts. At that time, there was no such thing as Cowboy Action Shooting, so the majority opinion was to put them in a safe. I couldn't stand it (like others have mentioned, I shoot my guns), so I traded them away.
I had a similar experience; i got bored pretty quickly with the one "safe gun" i owned. I never shot it and eventually sold it as well. If i had owned two of them i may have kept it....that way i could've at least enjoyed one of 'em.
Maybe someday if/when i have more guns than i could possibly shoot, or obviously if i come across a great deal on an old "collector" Colt, i'll "safe" a gun or two... Until then, i just need to shoot the guns i own ;).
Eli is Right! We NEED photographs! :wl:
No question Steve! I'm rollin' out the gunny :)! :fp:
gottripletsNC
5th January 2008, 10:30
I have guns that I don't shoot much. One is Winchester 1200 that is still 100%. It was one my Dad gave My Grandpa. My Dad said 1962, but I think it was 64 but, thats irrelevant to the story, anyways, I shoot it, and have used to hunt with, and will continue to this day shoot it, but it is not my primary shooter. It is a safe queen, but I will still shoot it.
That said, carry it, or don't, it will outlive you, I am fairly sure of that. If you put it away, thats fine too. But I agree with most, if I am going to own a gun, I am going to shoot it. Unless it were the #1 1911, or some oddball invaluable piece. Kinda like that matching set of 1911's that Frank and Jesse James carried, that are now in my gun safe.
paul45
5th January 2008, 10:36
Allow me to comment :D
I decided if I wanted an investment, I would have taken the money and put it in a savings account. The compound interest would have made more money in the end.
I beg to differ! We can come up with quite a large list of Colts that have literally blown away any returns a saving account could give.
With the latest plunge of the Dow, for example, some investors are are moving money into cars, art, gold and yes firearms. :D
The tough call is deciding which firearm will give a good rate of return.......the same as any investment. ;)
rk246.....don't you have a CCO that you talked about yeterday?
http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=42184
If so, you could get that one the way you want it and have the Gunsite CCO as NIB until you decide what to do?
44 Man
5th January 2008, 10:40
If I bought a CCO, it would be for the purpose carrying it, therefore I would shoot it (a lot!). It's a tough call. If a gun is a special run, not apt to be repeated, then you should consider not shooting it. But the CCO have come and gone a couple of times and should likely return again. I'm like the others though, I have trouble owning a gun I cannot shoot. So when I aquired a 1 of 500 from the Colt custom shop, I really agonized over whether to shoot it or not. I did get an excellent price, about the same as many 'shooting' guns cost, so after a couple of days, I decided to shoot it. Here's the family. Now the engraved Gov't has more rounds through it than the other two together! 44 Man
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/clare44man/family.jpg
Cody302
5th January 2008, 19:08
If a parking spot in a safe...or...wood,some glass,and a spot on a wall....or....a nice warm spot between your belt and your shirt results in you ENJOYING it, then that's what you do. Did you pay good money to warehouse someone else's stuff for twenty years? If it makes you happy.....do it! If it doesn't..... :D
Hawkmoon
5th January 2008, 19:54
Gunsite is now licensing their name to S&W so it is very UNlikely that there will be more Colt Gunsite CCOs made down the road. I don't know how many were made, but I think it must be regarded as essentially a limited production pistol. If I were to stumble into posession of one that is NIB, I believe I would pretty much have to keep it that way. I already have a Colt M1991A1 Compact, a Para 12.45 LDA and a Para Slim-Hawg. I don't *NEED* another carry pistol, but there's always room in the house for a NIB Colt.
Once you shoot/carry it -- it ain't ever gonna be NIB again. I am constantly amused and amazed at the paradox in the firearms community. People will fall all over themselves looking for NIB examples of older guns, and pay a premium for them when they find them -- but they tell everyone who has one to shoot it. If everyone who buys a new gun shoots it, there won't ever be any NIB examples of older guns down the road, guys. It's just that simple. I can appreciate a Colt for it's workmanship, it's finish, and it's legacy without feeling any particular compulsion to shoot it.
JMHO.
IZinterrogator
5th January 2008, 20:35
If I had known when I bought it that my Gunsite CCO was going to be a limited production run, I would have bought two and left one NIB. As it is, I still have one Gunsite (the stainless model) that is NIB and it will stay that way. But the Gunsite CCO is such a sweet carry gun that I have to have one for carrying. Since I have only one of them, it gets carried and it gets shot. Same goes for the blued model. Of course, if I can get my hands on more, I will leave them NIB.
Hawkmoon
5th January 2008, 20:56
Huh? :confused:
I still have one Gunsite (the stainless model) that is NIB and it will stay that way.
This sentence tells me you own ONE Gunsite CCO, and that it is NIB (unfired).
But ...
Since I have only one of them, it gets carried and it gets shot.
This sentence tells me that you own ONE Gunsite CCO, and that you carry and shoot it (not NIB).
What am I missing?
EchoBravoKilo
5th January 2008, 21:43
As for the original question, I guess my opinion would be that if you don't enjoy it, your heirs will - either to shoot or sell.
Besides, aren't firearms made to be fired?
elijdub
5th January 2008, 22:10
Huh? :confused:
This sentence tells me you own ONE Gunsite CCO, and that it is NIB (unfired).
But ...
This sentence tells me that you own ONE Gunsite CCO, and that you carry and shoot it (not NIB).
What am I missing?
Hawkmoon, I only know b/c of a recent thread in the Colt forum that the gentleman is refering to the fact that he has one Gunsight CCO that is shot, and i believe two regular full-size Gunsight's (one blue, one SS, one of which is NIB).
http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=41715
rk246
5th January 2008, 23:23
rk246.....don't you have a CCO that you talked about yeterday?
http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=42184
If so, you could get that one the way you want it and have the Gunsite CCO as NIB until you decide what to do?
I do, I have had it for about 6 months now, I have shot it about 3 times and had malfunctions every time. It is the regular CCO, no the Gunsite. It had not been real well cared for and needs some work done to it. I have talked to the gunsmith I am going to send it off soon to be reworked and hopefully turned into the carry gun I want. It needs trigger work, new grip safety, new sights, front strap checkering, msh checkering, reliablity and feeding work, refinishing amongst other things I am sure. I am thinking I will have it finished with the Ionbonding. I am thinking a dark slide with a silver frame, new micarta grips. That should turn it into a decent carry piece. As for the Gunsite, I think I will pretty much leave it stock, except I would like to add tritium night sights to it, and probably have it worked for feeding and reliability.
Ted Smith
6th January 2008, 00:05
The only thing that will look better than a safe-queen Gunsite is a blued Gunsite model with lots of worn blue from a lot of holster wear. Worn points on the grip panels would add a lot of character too.
Shoot the thing! A lot.
IZinterrogator
6th January 2008, 01:20
Huh? :confused:
This sentence tells me you own ONE Gunsite CCO, and that it is NIB (unfired).
But ...
This sentence tells me that you own ONE Gunsite CCO, and that you carry and shoot it (not NIB).
What am I missing?
That I own all three versions. ;) The CCO gets carried, the blued gets shot and occasionally carried, and the stainless is still NIB.
rk246
6th January 2008, 01:43
Okay, I am trying to figure all this out, I was going to post the pics of my new Colt Gunsite CCO, I took the pics tonight, but don't know how to post pics? Also don't know if I should be blanking out the serial number? How do you do that? I tried to go into a few of the different photo editors I have but none really had anything good to allow this?
Thanks,
RJ
paul45
6th January 2008, 07:49
http://forum.m1911.org/faq.php?faq=a_few_words#faq_postingpictures
I took the pics tonight, but don't know how to post pics?
That link should help greatly.
Also don't know if I should be blanking out the serial number?
I don't see the need. You legally own it.
As for the Gunsite, I think I will pretty much leave it stock, except I would like to add tritium night sights to it, and probably have it worked for feeding and reliability.
Well......personally, me being me........I would do what I said earlier. Get that nice CCO up to speed first. Leave the Gunsite stock. I am one of those guys who likes to have a few NIB Colts in the safe.....so I would leave it NIB and begin to think that Gunsites will most likely go up in value much faster than typical production Colts.....I think it will be a good "collector".
But again, my opinion only. I do not have to shoot every Colt I own.....
OVER THE HILL GUY.
6th January 2008, 11:10
WHAT!!!! Leave it in the box????? not shoot it????? NO !!!! NO!!!! shoot it- shoot-it. Have fun. Jerry
airbornerangerboogie
6th January 2008, 11:53
Maybe I'm just being an "old foggy", but stamps are for collect'n and guns are for shoot'n :) .
dogdollar
6th January 2008, 13:26
I traded a $2500.00 Wilson for my Gunsite CCO and never looked back. Why?
Because I walked into the gun show with a gun I hadn't shot in more than a year and walked out with probably the finest "carry" 1911-style pistol I could imagine.
It is accurate, solid, light, quick, and points like a dream.
I often wonder exactly how many people who SAY they carry a 1911 actually do......after all, it's a large and heavy pistol for the most part.
For me, the Gunsite CCO made it just plain stupid to carry anything else.
SHOOT IT!!!!!!
SHOOT IT!!!!!!
SHOOT IT!!!!!!
DD
clughog
6th January 2008, 13:29
Shoot and enjoy...it'll keep most of its value anyway, should you decide to part with it for unknown reasons. I would, personally, keep it stock, though--I tend toward being a "purist" about most of my Colts!
paul45
6th January 2008, 13:31
I traded a $2500.00 Wilson for my Gunsite CCO and never looked back. Why?
Because I walked into the gun show with a gun I hadn't shot in more than a year and walked out with probably the finest "carry" 1911-style pistol I could imagine.
It is accurate, solid, light, quick, and points like a dream.
I often wonder exactly how many people who SAY they carry a 1911 actually do......after all, it's a large and heavy pistol for the most part.
For me, the Gunsite CCO made it just plain stupid to carry anything else.
SHOOT IT!!!!!!
SHOOT IT!!!!!!
SHOOT IT!!!!!!
DD
Say!! .......Was that an even up trade??!! :p
dogdollar
6th January 2008, 14:11
Say!! .......Was that an even up trade??!! :p
Even Steven.
:p
JustinTime
6th January 2008, 14:14
I have two Gunsite CCO's: One is NIB and tho other is my primary CCW pistol. I'm not much on keeping guns for investments. There are better investments out there with much better returns. Residual returns even which a firearm will never bring.
This should tide some folks over.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/ColtGunsiteCCO3.jpg
44 Man
6th January 2008, 14:15
Even though Col. Cooper had not been associted with Gunsite for quite some time, I really believe that when they (Gunsite) puts their name on a pistol, they expect it to be a first class carry piece. (even better when it is a Colt) I'm sure they expect it to be carried and shot a lot, and to be someone's main 'go to' defensive weapon! To not use one in that way seems to be a breach of trust on our part if we own one. Wish I had one a CCO, it WOULD get carried and shot a lot, whether a Gunsite or regular production. 44 Man
dogdollar
6th January 2008, 14:15
Shoot and enjoy...it'll keep most of its value anyway, should you decide to part with it for unknown reasons. I would, personally, keep it stock, though--I tend toward being a "purist" about most of my Colts!
Mine is stock (NOT!!!!).
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/6401glendale/Gun%20Stuff/JH_grips_lft.jpg
JustinTime
6th January 2008, 14:45
Mine is stock (NOT!!!!).
Our Colt's look almost identical since you change your stocks to ones similar to the ones I put on mine.
Good taste! ;)
OVER THE HILL GUY.
6th January 2008, 17:29
The COLT GSP is good to go STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. Don't worry what your estate will get, You never know what the future will bring. Jerry
dakota1911
6th January 2008, 17:48
I shoot everything I buy, although some guns get shot more than others, and I don't carry everything I buy. If you decide not to shoot it then do keep it protected, and check it several times a year so it does not become "rusted in box".
To me a pistol that has been shot lightly, taken care of well, and has not been altered in any way where it can not be returned to original is better than NIB. I also suspect that many people are getting a lightly shot and unaltered pistol with box and papers when they think they are buying NIB.
clughog
6th January 2008, 18:14
Mine is stock (NOT!!!!).
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/6401glendale/Gun%20Stuff/JH_grips_lft.jpgWell, I was really talking about things like replacing the sights, etc. or any mod that won't let you easily take it back to "original" if you wanted to--not the grips! Of course, a Gunsite pretty well comes the way a guy would want it anyway. Nice looking pistol, dogdollar!
elijdub
6th January 2008, 19:02
To me a pistol that has been shot lightly, taken care of well, and has not been altered in any way where it can not be returned to original is better than NIB.
I've had very good luck finding guns in this category. As much as i love NIB guns, i have a hard time shooting them (if they're out of production). Six of the last nine guns i bought (in 2 years) were lightly used and unmodified; i'm happy to carry and/or shoot each of them, and maybe even more importantly the were priced accordingly ;)!
Joni Lynn
6th January 2008, 19:14
Guns for the purpose of investment can't be expected to bring a worthwhile return so I'd have to say that almost any gun I own is liable to be taken out and used whenever I feel like it. Years down the road a gun that is in good condition will still have reasonable value and will have provided years of enjoyment.
paul45
6th January 2008, 19:40
Drat the luck! .......and I thought certain Colts could go up in value!
I guess this Colt is thinking out of the prevailing box......
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7840090
A short while later.....about 8 months....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=87383948
Darn......a profit of only 5,920 dollars.
An extreme example? Yes......but it happens.
Shooting is fun......so is collecting!!
dogdollar
6th January 2008, 19:47
Well, I was really talking about things like replacing the sights, etc. or any mod that won't let you easily take it back to "original" if you wanted to--not the grips! Of course, a Gunsite pretty well comes the way a guy would want it anyway. Nice looking pistol, dogdollar!
WEEEELLLLL......how about changing the hammer, trigger, sear, sear spring, bushing, extractor, front sight, plunger tube, thumb safety, slide stop, AND grips? That's what you're looking at here.....
:lm:
DD
Joni Lynn
6th January 2008, 19:50
I know one dealer that plays games on gunbroker. If his guns aren't going high enough he has 'friends' to bid them up, if they aren't selling at all he has a few 'friends' bid them up to extremely high figures thus setting the precedent of high price for that gun. The gun will be seen again but listed by someone else.
I've seen money made on guns but for the most part it isn't going to equal a good investment.
I will say however that I have a few that I had no good reason to buy that I hold onto anyway.
Please don't think I'm saying that any of these are not what they seem to be, they are probably exactly what they appear to be. I would accuse anyone of anything. Only point out that it is done.
clughog
6th January 2008, 21:58
WEEEELLLLL......how about changing the hammer, trigger, sear, sear spring, bushing, extractor, front sight, plunger tube, thumb safety, slide stop, AND grips? That's what you're looking at here.....
:lm:
DDWow, DD! At least it LOOKS original! The only thing I really see is the serrations on the slide stop. The Gunsite is an awesome looking pistol any way you configure it!
JustinTime
7th January 2008, 00:07
Wow, DD! At least it LOOKS original! The only thing I really see is the serrations on the slide stop. The Gunsite is an awesome looking pistol any way you configure it!
It isn't your fault you called his CCO stock. It looks like it is stock. I guarantee minust the checkered slide stop no one will ever notice it isn't stock unless they can see the hammer isn't black. Oh, you can tell the trigger isn't factory too if you look close enough. I wish I could get the factory hammer and sear from that pistol.
dogdollar
7th January 2008, 02:20
....and why would you want that, Justin?
DD
JustinTime
7th January 2008, 03:46
....and why would you want that, Justin?
DD
Because the factory hammer and sear on the Colt Gunsite CCO's are Chip McCormick bar stock. Chip McCormick made them special for Colt. I called Chip McCormick to get some hammers from them and they told me they didn't have anymore. I'd be willing to pay you for them if you have them.
daveohno
7th January 2008, 07:24
Firearms aren't really good investments. A nice Colt might hold its own vs inflation, which isn't a bad thing at all. Anyway, most of us buy them because we like 'em, the fact that they hold their own price wise is a plus.
I manage to shoot all of my firearms, right now I have 3 firearms that I haven't shot. One is a NIB Colt and the other two are Colt's I bought last year. I just haven't gotten around to shooting them. The one is a 1949 Commercial and the other is a 4" 22 Diamondback. If IRC, Dan sold me both. He even "guided" me to the new one. :D Dan is a bad influence........;)
leade45
7th January 2008, 09:49
If the gun is your answer to your dream carry gun, then use the darn thing. If the FEW thousand dollar gain you MAY get for it in 20 years is worth keeping it LNIB, then don't shoot it.
If you keep it in good shape, with only honest wear, it will still be 'worth' a decent gain over what you paid for it.
OD*
7th January 2008, 09:52
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/evilbanana9.gif
......................
JustinTime
7th January 2008, 11:08
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/evilbanana9.gif
......................
What the????
OD*
7th January 2008, 11:28
What the????
That was posted to Dave, for calling me a bad influence. http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/lmao.gif
Metal
7th January 2008, 11:34
I would carry the Colt, they are the most reliable and it could prove to be a life saver.
JustinTime
7th January 2008, 11:36
That was posted to Dave, for calling me a bad influence. http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/lmao.gif
Oh, I missed that statement. What does Dave know?
OD*
7th January 2008, 11:45
What does Dave know?
How many guns I have conned him into buying.
Bawhahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
JustinTime
7th January 2008, 11:47
Drat the luck! .......and I thought certain Colts could go up in value!
It is still not a good investment. You have to hold on to it for 20-30 years for you to get a return worthy to be called an investment. Even then it's less than ten grand usually which imo is a horrible investment. I honestly believe people use the investment angle to justify them buying them. It is a great hobby though. Love them Colts.
dogdollar
7th January 2008, 15:25
It is still not a good investment. You have to hold on to it for 20-30 years for you to get a return worthy to be called an investment. Even then it's less than ten grand usually which imo is a horrible investment. I honestly believe people use the investment angle to justify them buying them. It is a great hobby though. Love them Colts.
I've seen guys in here run that old "investment" gag by a rookie wife two or three times in a row.
DD
JustinTime
7th January 2008, 15:36
I've seen guys in here run that old "investment" gag by a rookie wife two or three times in a row.
DD
Hey you know whatever works...right? ;)
JustinTime
7th January 2008, 15:47
How many guns I have conned him into buying.
Bawhahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
You are good at that thy enabler.
mtngunr
8th January 2008, 01:32
On the original question, it would depend on how you saw yourself.....a) a shooter of guns, or b) a very exclusive museum.....my question would be, who are you saving it for?......off topic, OD is a VERY bad influence, and a poor investment advisor....he's definitely talked me into several guns that were not cheap, and since they'll never be sold, will never realize any return on the investment.....
elijdub
8th January 2008, 08:36
It is still not a good investment. You have to hold on to it for 20-30 years for you to get a return worthy to be called an investment. Even then it's less than ten grand usually which imo is a horrible investment. I honestly believe people use the investment angle to justify them buying them. It is a great hobby though. Love them Colts.
I agree Justin. If someone can put their money into something that will realize some value, AND provide enjoyment for years to come, it makes it a little easier to spend that hard earned cash. While Colt's will never achieve comparable profits to an aggressive investment strategy (unless you happened to be alive in the late 1800's and had been able to store away a couple SAA) they sure are fun to look at and shoot :).
OD*
10th January 2008, 12:28
On the original question, it would depend on how you saw yourself.....a) a shooter of guns, or b) a very exclusive museum.....my question would be, who are you saving it for?......off topic, OD is a VERY bad influence, and a poor investment advisor....he's definitely talked me into several guns that were not cheap, and since they'll never be sold, will never realize any return on the investment.....
I try very hard to be evil helpful to my friends. ;)
JustinTime
10th January 2008, 12:39
he's definitely talked me into several guns that were not cheap
I know thats right!
az-coyote
10th January 2008, 13:03
Carry it everyday. ;)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/bryanrains/DSC00621.jpg
elijdub
10th January 2008, 20:13
Carry it everyday. ;)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/bryanrains/DSC00621.jpg
Very nice az-coyote! Looks great with the micarta's...
rk246
10th January 2008, 22:10
Carry it everyday. ;)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/bryanrains/DSC00621.jpg
Which grips are those? I am thinking micartas for my other CCO, I have been looking at VZ grips, debating between the 320's and the gators? I would like slim grips.
elijdub
10th January 2008, 22:25
I can't tell for sure, but they sure do look like VZ's. Many companies make "micarta" stocks these days, all of which look very similar to VZ. Although i'm sure other companies stocks are fine products, i'd go with the VZ's personally. They are just the top of the line, IMHO.
The 320's have a very fine grit, sorta' like 30lpi checkering in terms of aggressiveness. They really do feel like 320 sandpaper. The Gatorbacks are more aggressive, though it depends on which "type" you choose (linen, paper, canvas).
I personally do not like aggressive stocks and prefer the 320's.
rk246
11th January 2008, 00:10
I can't tell for sure, but they sure do look like VZ's. Many companies make "micarta" stocks these days, all of which look very similar to VZ. Although i'm sure other companies stocks are fine products, i'd go with the VZ's personally. They are just the top of the line, IMHO.
The 320's have a very fine grit, sorta' like 30lpi checkering in terms of aggressiveness. They really do feel like 320 sandpaper. The Gatorbacks are more aggressive, though it depends on which "type" you choose (linen, paper, canvas).
I personally do not like aggressive stocks and prefer the 320's.
Thanks, yeah I am looking for less aggressive, on my Stinger I put smooth slim grips and really like them for carry. I was thinking something different for this CCO but would like to stay pretty smooth.
Panama1911
11th January 2008, 00:32
Drat the luck! .......and I thought certain Colts could go up in value!
I guess this Colt is thinking out of the prevailing box......
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7840090
A short while later.....about 8 months....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=87383948
Darn......a profit of only 5,920 dollars.
An extreme example? Yes......but it happens.
Shooting is fun......so is collecting!!
That gun didn't go up in value. It was sold by someone who didn't know it's worth to someone who obviously did. Getting a deal on something that you sell for profit in less than a year is a different ballgame than buying a new gun and not shooting it for 25 years.
az-coyote
11th January 2008, 10:53
yes, those are VZ grips.
When I called them, they were limited - officer size grip, black, etc...
But they had these in stock, ready to ship.
Pretty stock pistol except for trigger (with trigger work), grips, novak night sights, and Ed Brown safety (safety added after picture was taken).
paul45
11th January 2008, 11:19
That gun didn't go up in value. It was sold by someone who didn't know it's worth to someone who obviously did. Getting a deal on something that you sell for profit in less than a year is a different ballgame than buying a new gun and not shooting it for 25 years.Didn't go up in value.......huh?????? Also, show me where anyone in this discussion put the parameter of 25 years up, other than you.
Add all the "what ifs" you want to make your point........... :butthead:
mtngunr
11th January 2008, 11:34
Didn't go up in value.......huh?????? Also, show me where anyone in this discussion put the parameter of 25 years up, other than you.
Add all the "what ifs" you want to make your point........... :butthead:
For the record, I too found the Python example not related to the subject at had....THAT gun was already a rare collectible, AND undervalued.....most Colts are none of the above, especially newer ones.
44 Man
11th January 2008, 12:02
I wonder how that Python shoots? 44 Man
paul45
11th January 2008, 13:26
For the record, I too found the Python example not related to the subject at had....THAT gun was already a rare collectible, AND undervalued.....most Colts are none of the above, especially newer ones.Interesting point, I respect your thought. I find myself wondering how the original owner knew to keep the Python pristine......did he or she know it would become a rare collectible, AND undervalued?
Of course, the discussion here is fun. Carry the Gunsite or keep it in the safe.....it really is up to the owner in the end.
Panama1911
11th January 2008, 20:06
Didn't go up in value.......huh?????? Also, show me where anyone in this discussion put the parameter of 25 years up, other than you.
Add all the "what ifs" you want to make your point........... :butthead:
Well, you used a 25 year old Python as an example, so I didn't just
pull that number out of the sky. I was simply trying to illustrate that
there is a big difference between a rise in value, and just getting a
good deal and reselling for a profit. That gun took over 25 years to
reach it's current value, not eight months. I don't see any "what ifs"
in my post, but here is one.
Suppose I buy a 100 year old painting at a garage sale for $50 and find
out from an art dealer the next week that it would easily fetch $50,000.
Does that mean that the painting increased in value by $49,950 in one
week? Of course not, it was worth that much when I bought it.
OD*
11th January 2008, 20:10
Excellent example.
paul45
11th January 2008, 20:13
You know, I have to say I see the point now.
Thanks for the 2nd example.....
Panama1911
11th January 2008, 20:39
You know, I have to say I see the point now.
Thanks for the 2nd example.....
No problem, and thanks for taking the time to read it. It's nice to be in a forum with sensible people, which is sadly a rare thing on the internet.
paul45
11th January 2008, 20:46
Oh geez......I believe sensible and myself are like oil and water.
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