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Buccaneer_9
13th December 2007, 17:06
I am looking at replacing the following on my pistol and I wanted to get your opinion(s) on who offers best of breed for each part.
The pistol is a Springfield Armory G.I. Champion and it will be my EDC.
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/PW9142L.jpg
The parts I'm interested in changing are as follows:
Trigger
Sear
Hammer (Ring Type)
Hammer Strut
Firing Pin Stop
Disconnector
Extractor
Sights (low-mount)
Slide Stop (serrated)
Thumb Safety (extended-don't want ambi-safety)
Grip Safety
Magazine
Magazine Well (beveled)
Springs
Also, let me know if I'm forgetting anything. I'm pretty new to all of this stuff and I want to make sure I get my rig set up the right way, the first time.
Thanks in advance for your help!
berkbw
13th December 2007, 17:25
perhaps it might do well for you to explain the intended use and expectations of your gun.
b-
garrettwc
13th December 2007, 17:42
Since your stated purpose is an everday carry gun, I would start with 500 rounds of ammo. Shoot that through it and verify the gun is reliable. Along the way take note of anything that is bugging you. That will give you your list of "needs".
If you have already done that then quality parts from Berryhill, Wilson, Cylinder and Slide, EGW, etc. should work just fine. Sights are personal preference some like Heinie, others Novak, others something else.
pa_guns
13th December 2007, 21:49
Hi
I would guess that you are going to lower the ejection port and ultimately re-finish the pistol.
Consider the cost of what you are about to do. By the time you get all this stuff fit to the pistol there will be some real money involved. I'm not saying don't do it, just that you are about to double your investment in the pistol.
Bob
1911Tuner
13th December 2007, 21:57
Howdy Buccaneer,
If you're planning to use it as a "Learn as you Turn" project...expect to kill a few parts.
If it's a one-off project to create your own custom pistol...be aware that many of the parts you've listed require fitting...and some require fairly precise fitting. You may get lucky...but you also may not. Though the label may say "Drop-In" it would be best not to count on it.
If you're not experienced in these matters, it would be wise to either pay an experienced smith to do it, or have one supervise, guide, and direct while you do the work.
Welcome aboard
Hawkmoon
13th December 2007, 22:20
I am looking at replacing the following on my pistol and I wanted to get your opinion(s) on who offers best of breed for each part.
The pistol is a Springfield Armory G.I. Champion and it will be my EDC.
Okay, I'll ask -- What is an EDC? Energy Draining Conduit?
I don't mean to single you out, because this seems to be a growing problem around here, but your personal acronyms often don't mean anything to readers. This is not a cell phone, there is no reason to use indecipherable acronyms to save characters when using actual words will make things so much easier to understand.
Please!
pa_guns
13th December 2007, 22:24
Hi
Looking at your list - you are keeping the MSH.
I suspect your pistol has the ILS system on it. That would definitely be something I would replace.
You are also keeping the bushing. Unless you have an unusual Springer, the bushing is probably worth replacing.
I believe that the list of what you are keeping might make things easier:
MSH
Slide
Frame
Grip bushings
Grips
Grip screws
Barrel and link
Bushing
A couple of pins
Bob
wichaka
13th December 2007, 22:33
EDC.........Every Day Carry
pa_guns
13th December 2007, 22:35
Okay, I'll ask -- What is an EDC? Energy Draining Conduit?
Hi
http://main.edc.org/
Tough students ... :D :D :D
To many of these little abbreviations have a *lot* of different meanings.
Bob
Buccaneer_9
14th December 2007, 12:27
Okay, I'll ask -- What is an EDC? Energy Draining Conduit?
I don't mean to single you out, because this seems to be a growing problem around here, but your personal acronyms often don't mean anything to readers. This is not a cell phone, there is no reason to use indecipherable acronyms to save characters when using actual words will make things so much easier to understand.
Please!
Every
Day
Carry
Buccaneer_9
14th December 2007, 12:35
Hi
Looking at your list - you are keeping the MSH.
I suspect your pistol has the ILS system on it. That would definitely be something I would replace.
You are also keeping the bushing. Unless you have an unusual Springer, the bushing is probably worth replacing.
I believe that the list of what you are keeping might make things easier:
MSH
Slide
Frame
Grip bushings
Grips
Grip screws
Barrel and link
Bushing
A couple of pins
Bob
Bull Barrel - No Bushing
I think I'm going to do a single piece MSH/Magwell for fitment/finish/functionality purposes, so the MSH with the ILS will go away. Other than that, your list is spot on.
pa_guns
14th December 2007, 13:42
Hi
I don't think I would keep the fancy grips on a carry pistol. They are very pretty, but not at the top of my list for function.
I would spend the money on a set of wrap around "rubber" grips. If they are simply to ugly, then at least go for a full checkered grip.
Bob
Buccaneer_9
14th December 2007, 22:57
Since your stated purpose is an everday carry gun, I would start with 500 rounds of ammo. Shoot that through it and verify the gun is reliable. Along the way take note of anything that is bugging you. That will give you your list of "needs".
If you have already done that then quality parts from Berryhill, Wilson, Cylinder and Slide, EGW, etc. should work just fine. Sights are personal preference some like Heinie, others Novak, others something else.
Garrett, thanks for the manufacturer suggestions.
Everyone else, thanks for the ideas. I think I have a good idea of what I'm gonna do.
I'll post before and after pics in the Springer section of the forum.
pa_guns
14th December 2007, 23:02
Hi
I'd add Fusion to the list of parts guys to take a look at.
Also remember you will need some petty odd tools to get all this stuff to fit together.
Bob
Buccaneer_9
14th December 2007, 23:06
I'm actually gonna get all the parts together and turn the project over to a smith here in the area.
pa_guns
15th December 2007, 10:48
I'm actually gonna get all the parts together and turn the project over to a smith here in the area.
Hi
I'd get the parts list together and then head over to the guy who's going to do the work. If he's good at this, he will have recommendations about what works.
Any thoughts about what kind of finish you are going to put on the pistol when you are done? The work you are having done will require a re-finish, so you get to pick what you want next.
Bob
Buccaneer_9
15th December 2007, 20:17
Hi
I'd get the parts list together and then head over to the guy who's going to do the work. If he's good at this, he will have recommendations about what works.
Any thoughts about what kind of finish you are going to put on the pistol when you are done? The work you are having done will require a re-finish, so you get to pick what you want next.
Bob
I'm pretty sure I'm going with either the "Black Oxide" (http://www.robarguns.com/additional_finishes.htm) or "Roguard" (http://www.robarguns.com/roguard.htm) finish from Robar (http://www.robarguns.com/index.htm).
pa_guns
15th December 2007, 20:58
Hi
The "black oxide" is just a standard blue job. I suspect you can find other places that may be less expensive on a bluing job. The Roguard stuff sounds interesting.
I believe your pistol is Parkerized at this point. Getting the park off of the pistol and bringing the surface up to condition is not an easy thing to do. That's going to be true of anything cool you finish it with.
Bob
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