Gunsite CCO

[TBM]

Any of these around for sale anymore? Looks like I might be a few months too late for that party. Had a line on a regular CCO, but figured I'd hold out for a Gunsite version. Now I'm not seeing the GS CCOs around. Are they all gone and I just need to wait until I can find one?

[d90king]

They are hard to come by, but if you are patient you will find one. I got a tip from joni lynn about 6 months ago and found mine and it was well worth the wait. If you do a search you will find some good photos. Good luck in your search.

Patrick

[daveohno]

You could try Gunsite Ranch, they may have some. It's not on their website, but an email or call is all that it will cost you.
http://www.gunsite.com/info/gunsmithy.html

[elijdub]

Fellow forum member DogDollar just picked one up at a Dallas gun show (i think). Here's a link to last weeks thread:
http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=38797
They're still out there...just getting harder to find. There isn't a single one on gunbroker or gunsamerica right now....i checked ;).

[EAJ]

Check gunbroker.com. I see them listed just about everytime I visit. :)

[elijdub]

I haven't seen one on gunbroker in 3 or 4 months personally. I wonder if i'm using the wrong "key words" :confused:. I just looked this morning on all the auction sites; there's a Gunsight (priced around $2000), but no CCO's.

[EAJ]

I apologize, my old eyes missed CCO. Sorry.

[elijdub]

I apologize, my old eyes missed CCO. Sorry.
No apologies required ;).

I do see 'em from time to time as well, but from my perspective they're getting harder to find. ...I want one :D.

[clughog]

Any of these around for sale anymore? Looks like I might be a few months too late for that party. Had a line on a regular CCO, but figured I'd hold out for a Gunsite version. Now I'm not seeing the GS CCOs around. Are they all gone and I just need to wait until I can find one?I think I know where there's one for sale here in the DFW area of Texas...but it's kind of pricy. Send me a PM if you're interested and I'll see if I can help you out. In fact, he'll be at the Fort Worth Gun Show tomorrow and I'll check it out anyway!

[elijdub]

Any of these around for sale anymore? Looks like I might be a few months too late for that party. Had a line on a regular CCO, but figured I'd hold out for a Gunsite version. Now I'm not seeing the GS CCOs around. Are they all gone and I just need to wait until I can find one?
Thought i'd revive this thread (for the benefit of the "starter") cuz while purusing gunbroker i found a CCO. It's priced fairly accurately, IMO, given it's seen light carry-wear but has original box and papers.
Hope this helps on your search ;)!
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=85049584

[JustinTime]

Not bad Eli but I know where some one can get a brand new Colt CCO for 150 more than that without having to bid here in Town.

The Gunsite CCO is very elusive these days. I just checked auctionarms, gunsamerica, and gun broker and came up empty.

[elijdub]

Not bad Eli but I know where some one can get a brand new Colt CCO for 150 more than that without having to bid here in Town.
First off, where ya' been Justin ;)?! Haven't seen ya' around lately. I thought we lost you to "Baer" ;).

So, the BLUE BOOK (which i've been relying on heavily lately) states the Colt CCO (Mnfr. 1998 only):
100%=$800
98%=$700
95%=$600
...and so on.
For $850, without having to bid, would be worth it, IMO (assuming NIB).
The Gunsite CCO is very elusive these days. I just checked auctionarms, gunsamerica, and gun broker and came up empty.
Yeah, i've been checking for weeks (on all the usual sources), prior to this thread, and more-so since this was posted. I've just been hoping to have a look at one. I've seen several "Gunsight's", but no "Gunsight CCO's"

[daveohno]

Justin splits his time between us and Baer. When he feels like slumming with the ordinary folk, he shows up on the Colt board. :D

[elijdub]

Justin splits his time between us and Baer. When he feels like slumming with the ordinary folk, he shows up on the Colt board. :D
I see...an elitist, huh? :D :D!

[skipsan]

Bought a Gunsite CCO this week on Gunbroker. Factory new from a shop in Michigan. Paid too much, but what else is new? There were extenuating circumstances--I wanted it.

[daveohno]

I see...an elitist, huh? :D :D!
I don't think he's too much of a snob, just Mr. Fancy Pants now that he has discovered Baer.

We broke him of his tupperware habit with Colt, but the roots are shallow with this one! He tossed us under the bus for one of them fancy 1911 makers. :D

[clughog]

Thought i'd revive this thread (for the benefit of the "starter") cuz while purusing gunbroker i found a CCO. It's priced fairly accurately, IMO, given it's seen light carry-wear but has original box and papers.
Hope this helps on your search ;)!
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=85049584Eli, this one is not the Gunsite version that I believe TBM wants...but it's a nice pistol. Looks like it's been modified since it says the "night sights are dead" and they didn't come with night sights. Incidentally, the blue book says they were only produced in 1998, but Colt Customer Service told me they made them in 1998 and 1999.

Not bad Eli but I know where some one can get a brand new Colt CCO for 150 more than that without having to bid here in Town.

The Gunsite CCO is very elusive these days. I just checked auctionarms, gunsamerica, and gun broker and came up empty.Justin, you're right...the CCO is elusive. I know where there's a new one, too (may be the same one you're thinking about) for the price you mentioned. I thought maybe you were going to offer to sell your Gunsite CCO (but not at that price)!

[JustinTime]

First off, where ya' been Justin ?! Haven't seen ya' around lately. I thought we lost you to "Baer" .

Oh, I've been here and there. I'm not going anywhere.

So, the BLUE BOOK (which i've been relying on heavily lately) states the Colt CCO (Mnfr. 1998 only):

Eli this is just my opinion but the Blue Book is a good starting point but it doesn't really help you much when you take availability issues and desire into account.

[elijdub]

Eli, this one is not the Gunsite version that I believe TBM wants...but it's a nice pistol.
Creighton, Yeah, i know...i just happened by it on GB and thought i'd revive the post ;).
Looks like it's been modified since it says the "night sights are dead" and they didn't come with night sights. Incidentally, the auction site says they were only produced in 1998, but Colt Customer Service told me they made them in 1998 and 1999.
RIGHT! I didn't notice that...., the nightsights.

BLUE BOOK says 1998 mfg only too.... Huh?

[elijdub]

Oh, I've been here and there. I'm not going anywhere.
Glad to hear it ;).



Eli this is just my opinion but the Blue Book is a good starting point but it doesn't really help you much when you take availability issues and desire into account.
I completely agree. I just use it as a starting point myself. I find it helpful when i have no idea where to begin with a certain gun's value....

[JustinTime]

It might not have night sights on it. It is possible that the seller is not the original owner and simply doesn't know about guns all that much and thinks that because the white dots don't light up that they are night sights that are dead. The sights look like the stock sights that came on the Colt CCO's. At any rate it still isn't that great of a deal when you can get a brand new on for $150 more that you know is unmodified.

[clughog]

You might be right about the sights, Justin. The sights do look like the one I have, at least in profile, but without seeing the "dots" I sure couldn't tell. Except the one on Gunbroker looks like it might have some sort of mark or writing on the side of the rear sight whereas the new one I'm looking at is perfectly smooth on the sides. Anyway, I'd say it's not a bad price from the appearance of it if a guy didn't want (or couldn't get) a new one.

I saw two of the Gunsite CCO pistols for sale at the gun show today, NIB, with a...hold your breath...$1,695 price tag on 'em!

[elijdub]

I saw two of the Gunsite CCO pistols for sale at the gun show today, NIB, with a...hold your breath...$1,695 price tag on 'em!
Jeepers!!
...Isn't that about what they've been selling for though?

Are they still being produced?...i've been meaning to ask.

[daveohno]

The full size ones weren't quite that expensive. I bought a blue used Gunsite Pistol from Buds a while back for a good price. I emailed them asking if they had any new ones, they didn't but had the used one, so I picked up a used one from them.

I don't think they make them anymore. I have heard that Gunsite Ranch still orders some of the full size models from time to time to sell.

[clughog]

Jeepers!!
...Isn't that about what they've been selling for though?

Are they still being produced?...i've been meaning to ask.Nope, the CCO is not being produced. The vendor who has them is Classic Colt Firearms in Fort Worth, TX and they are know for having the higher end Colt pistols at even higher prices...but they will have them when other folks don't! That's their asking price, and they won't come off of that too much (maybe $100 or so) because no one else has any. But I don't see them moving them quickly, either...they've had these two for a while, and are not in any hurry to sell them.

[elijdub]

Thanks Dave. (BTW, don't feel like you'd be putting us out to post a pic of that pistol ;) :D!)

Thanks Creighton. I had thought that Gunsight produces (orders) them from time to time. Must be an internet rumor.
Good to know a source that carries guns like these though!

[skipsan]

I phoned Colt Customer Service during the past month and was told that the Gunsite pistols were not in their production schedule for the next year. The rep acted like he knew what he was talking about, and that he had heard the question before.

[daveohno]

Thanks Dave. (BTW, don't feel like you'd be putting us out to post a pic of that pistol ;) :D!)


It's a blue one and one of my boys has it. So I can't post a pic, I don't have it. I gave it to him for Christmas a while back. He uses a Glock and I wanted to get him interested in real guns. :D

[elijdub]

It's a blue one and one of my boys has it. So I can't post a pic, I don't have it. I gave it to him for Christmas a while back. He uses a Glock and I wanted to get him interested in real guns. :D
Very nice Christmas present Dave! Interestingly, when i was a little younger (early twenties) i acquired many of my first guns as Christmas presents from my Dad ;). He got me a nice SxS 20 gauge for small bird hunting one year, and most recently my Remington .300 Short Mag (4 or 5 years ago). Up until then, as far as he was concerned, when we were hunting together i was only BORROWING his guns ;)!



Found a decent looking blue Gunsite on gunbroker but it has some weird looking markings on the starboard side of the slide. Maybe it's just oil. Also what appears to be rust on the spring tunnel ("hood"...whathaveyou).
What do you guys think? Are these really hard to come by?
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=85447721

[skipsan]

Very nice Christmas present Dave! Interestingly, when i was a little younger (early twenties) i acquired many of my first guns as Christmas presents from my Dad ;). He got me a nice SxS 20 gauge for small bird hunting one year, and most recently my Remington .300 Short Mag (4 or 5 years ago). Up until then, as far as he was concerned, when we were hunting together i was only BORROWING his guns ;)!



Found a decent looking blue Gunsite on gunbroker but it has some weird looking markings on the starboard side of the slide. Maybe it's just oil. Also what appears to be rust on the spring tunnel ("hood"...whathaveyou).
What do you guys think? Are these really hard to come by?
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=85447721

I asked the seller via e-mail about the "rusty" looking area below the front sight. He claimed it was an abberation caused by the lights and camera. That particular gun had no box, and no paperwork. I don't think it sold today.

Update: The gun was relisted after not selling again, after at least two seperate listings. The "rust" or whatever it is , shows up in two seperate pictures, so I'm not sure about the sellers explanation.

[daveohno]

Colt didn't make that many Gunsite Pistols, but for the price he's asking, I'm not sure I'd want it. He's asking top dollar and the picture that he has there doesn't show the pistol in a good light. If he wants to sell the thing, you think he's at least try to get a decent picture of it. That's why he can't sell it. He needs to remove that thing on the slide and if it's oil on the slide, remove it or if it's just the light, retake the picture to get a good one.

[elijdub]

Yeah, i agree...not a very good "sales pitch". Thanks for the info.
So, he is asking top dollar, huh? That's the peak of the market value for these guns? For some reason i can't find "Gunsite" in either of my two gun-pricing books, BLUE BOOK included. They're not listed so i just can't get a bead on what they're worth.

[JustinTime]

They're not listed so i just can't get a bead on what they're worth.

What someone is willing to pay. ;)

[daveohno]

The buy it now price was $1100. That's quite a bit for a pistol with nearly no mention of anything about it. When made, if it has a box, how many mags, has it been shot, what is his inflated opinion of what % of new in the box it is. He didn't even take the time to make sure the pics came out good. With good pics and more details, the pistol is probably worth $1100. But he must not care much, because he didn't take the time to get good pics and describe what you're getting.

I've bought 3 or 4 pistols sight unseen because I trusted the seller and they were exactly as Dan described.

[dogdollar]

The NIB Gunsite CCO I bought a few weeks ago was FROM Classic Colt Firearms in Fort Worth - the tag price was $1599. I traded even for a $2400 custom Wilson CQB as new with extras.
I'd do it again tomorrow.
DD

[A.B.]

What someone is willing to pay. ;)Exactly. It is people who set the prices the "book" tries to keep up on, not the other way around. Rare items just make this more noticeable...it's the other way to hold the binoculars.

Right now, I'd say a pristine Gunsite CCO was worth exactly what Tim traded for it. And it was worth $1600 in cash. There it is. I'd pay that.

[clughog]

The NIB Gunsite CCO I bought a few weeks ago was FROM Classic Colt Firearms in Fort Worth - the tag price was $1599. I traded even for a $2400 custom Wilson CQB as new with extras.
I'd do it again tomorrow.
DDI thought that's where you might have bought yours, especially since they told me they sold one at the Houston show. They still have one or two left, and they've probably raised the price another $100 just because that's all they have left. Lee (the owner) told me they bought up all that their distributor got in, and they don't expect to get any more unless Colt starts producing them again. Even at the price they're asking, it'll probably just go up in value. You've got a fine pistol, dogdollar!

[elijdub]

Exactly. It is people who set the prices the "book" tries to keep up on, not the other way around. Rare items just make this more noticeable...it's the other way to hold the binoculars.

Right now, I'd say a pristine Gunsite CCO was worth exactly what Tim traded for it. And it was worth $1600 in cash. There it is. I'd pay that.
Yeah, like i said gents, i've just been using it as a "stepping stone" (the "book"); when i don't have a clue what something is worth it's a great resource. I personally have found that pre-series 70/but post WWII Colt's seem to sell at very close prices to those found in the book. My perspective anyhow....;).

[d90king]

If it helps guys I paid I think 1200 for my Gunsite CCO, if you search my post from the past there should be photos and I think what I paid was in there to. Joni lynn set me up with the guy he is out of I think it was WV. If anybody needs me to I can look in my safe and get info for the guy and pm it to you. also elidub i think the Gunsite you have the link for is for a 5" pistol but cant tell by the pics. I found that the CCO's where much tougher to come by, but they are out there. Good luck I will keep my eye open for you.

Patrick

[elijdub]

Thanks Patrick. Yes, that is a full-size in the pics. I can't remember why, for the life of me, i posted that link :o.... I think just makin' conversation since we were talkin' about Gunsite's.
With all this talk of CCO's i'm really starting to want one! Unfortunately i still have some other current expenditures that will require my putting it off for a good month-or-so (hunting season and my living-the-single-life ability to spend my cash on "gear" :D!......property taxes :(, which are high in NM right now, interestingly).
I'll get one eventually. Hopefully before "Classic Colt" runs out of 'em!

[clughog]

I'll get one eventually. Hopefully before "Classic Colt" runs out of 'em!Eli, maybe I should to see if I can get a "deal" on one from them and put it on hold for you! I've been tempted to get one for myself. I just wish I had bought one when they were less expensive...or not sold a real beauty that I had for a while and let go!

[elijdub]

Creighton, PM on the way....!

[A.B.]

Yeah, like i said gents, i've just been using it as a "stepping stone" (the "book"); when i don't have a clue what something is worth it's a great resource. I personally have found that pre-series 70/but post WWII Colt's seem to sell at very close prices to those found in the book. My perspective anyhow....;).Oh, I didn't mean it to sound like that Eli--I use the books, too! ;)

Actually, I was pretty astonished at the recent, failed auction at Sotheby's. That was odd.

When you get a small number of people, chasing after a few items, odd things happen. Money starts to become ineffective as a medium of exchange. It is a little like glimpsing the wizard behind the curtain, and it's one of the reasons that people become collectors....That's where my thoughts were, at the time.

Happy Thanksgiving!
AB

[lavern23]

There is one at my local shop that I get to from time to time and saw it today. It is a NIB Gunsite CCO. It is a blued one and if you want to pm me I can give you the details.

[elijdub]

Oh, I didn't mean it to sound like that Eli--I use the books, too! ;)

Actually, I was pretty astonished at the recent, failed auction at Sotheby's. That was odd.

When you get a small number of people, chasing after a few items, odd things happen. Money starts to become ineffective as a medium of exchange. It is a little like glimpsing the wizard behind the curtain, and it's one of the reasons that people become collectors....That's where my thoughts were, at the time.

Happy Thanksgiving!
AB
Hey A.B., Thanks for the post. I didn't think that's what anyone meant. I was just clarifying.... I know exactly what ya' mean. With serious collector items things can spiral out of control very quickly as, like you said, money is no longer an object (so to speak).

Yeah, for the most part i only use the "BOOK" to get started (and usually only with WWII's forward with regards to Colts), but if there's a gun i trully want i'm more than willing to pay a premium, as i think is the case with many. The interesting thing about the BOOK is that it has done a very good job of following (quite precisely) just what guns are selling for (at least in my very limited experience)!

So i'm curious to know more about the Sotheby's event....didn't hear about that one.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family as well A.B.
.....And to all my other fellow forum members, best wishes on the Holiday.
Regards,