Any direct Jarvis or Advantage Arms experience?

[Markbo]

I have several different conversions and have even built a couple of dedicated units from them. But these were before the Jarvis or Advantage Arms units popped on the scene.

Does anyone have any experience with Jarvis & AA that also has experience with Marvel, Kimber, etc?

In my experience, the Marvel is the most accurate conversion available with the Kimber and Ciener drawing up behind, and close in accuracy to each other.

[tgt_usa]

I have several different conversions and have even built a couple of dedicated units from them. But these were before the Jarvis or Advantage Arms units popped on the scene.

Does anyone have any experience with Jarvis & AA that also has experience with Marvel, Kimber, etc?

In my experience, the Marvel is the most accurate conversion available with the Kimber and Ciener drawing up behind, and close in accuracy to each other.

No experience w/a Jarvis for my part, but experiences with AA, Kimber and Marvel described here:

http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=34343

... and this thread may have similar material (long time since I read it):

http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=5025

Advantage Arms can now supply components to make their kit extremely accurate. They sent me all the parts but I haven't installed them: the thing is accurate enough for my purposes and so reliable now that I don't want to risk messing it up.

[Markbo]

Thanks for the links, I will check them out.

What sort of accurizing parts are you talking about? Is it something they just sent you or did you order a kit or separate parts or what?

[tgt_usa]

Thanks for the links, I will check them out.

What sort of accurizing parts are you talking about? Is it something they just sent you or did you order a kit or separate parts or what?

What I wrote was not very well put: the parts are springs to allow the kit to operate with standard velocity ammunition. Rather than make the _kit_ accurate, it allows use of more accurate ammunition in the kit. Here's a link:

http://www.advantagearms.com/1911accessories.html

You're welcome,

[Markbo]

I know how accurate my Marvel kit is (crazy) and I would guess the Wilson kit is more accurate than the others mentioned. I guess I am just trying to find out of the AA kits are inherently more accurate than the Ciener or Kimber, which I already have.

[tgt_usa]

I know how accurate my Marvel kit is (crazy) and I would guess the Wilson kit is more accurate than the others mentioned. I guess I am just trying to find out of the AA kits are inherently more accurate than the Ciener or Kimber, which I already have.

As indicated in the thread;

http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=34343

... in my experience, the AA kit is more accurate than the Kimber. And that is with every load I've tried in both. The AA target kit has a design very similar to the Marvel. The barrel and sights are locked together, rather than moving separately during recoil. Shooting HV ammo the AA is very accurate and very reliable. I use the Marvel to shoot slowfire for group using 1911 controls. But for practice drills I use the AA because it runs reliably and is plenty accurate.

[TonyT]

I have used the following 22 conversion units:
Colt unit witrh the floating chamber, Marvel, and Jarvis.
The Marvel is by far the most accurate. It was designed to provide bullseye competion level accuracy with standard velocity ammo.

The Jarvis unit exhibits excellent craftsmanship and is quite unique in design since the slide moves on a groove in the barrel. It is deigned for use with HV ammo only and appears to work best with either CCI Mini MAg or Remington Thunderbolt (albeit the Remington Thunderbolt does have numerous ignition failures). It is less accurate than the Marvel but more so than compared to friend Ciener or Kimber units which I consider plinkers. The Jarvis unit is no laonger mfg. by Jarvis - I understand another firm has taken over productioin of an improved version.

The old Colt unit also would be classified as a plinker. It has a seperate floating chamber which gets crudded up readilly and requires frequent cleaning.

I am eager to try out the Advantage Arms unit. It appears attractively priced and has the capabiulity to use standard velocity ammo.