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cruiserk
31st August 2007, 10:42
I have been chomping at the bit to shoot IDPA with my ROCK Tactical. I am waiting so I do not ingrain bad habits. My instructor sent me this list of things we will drill on on Sept 8th out in Newberry Springs, High Desert in CA.


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Instructions on,
Range commands, safety, the grip and stance, the draw, reloads
( tactical, retention, slidelock )
and a non-IDPA speed load. Movement, use of barricades and clearing of jams.
(With my RIA Tactical, this one might be hard to do, it does not jam ;) )

Paper Target exercises,
7 yards, draw and fire 2 rounds. 6 rounds total
10 yards, draw and fire 2 rounds. 6 rounds total
15 yards, draw and fire 2 rounds. 6 rounds total
20 yards, draw and fire 2 rounds. 6 rounds total
10 yards, blind draw (back to target), turn and fire 2 rounds.
6 rounds total

10 yards, draw and fire 6 rounds while moving forward.
do a slide lock reload and holster. At 5 yards, draw, retreat
backwards while firing 6 rounds. 12 rounds total
( 42 rounds total )

IDPA Qualifier practice. ( 90 rounds total )

Movement drill with retention reload. ( 12 rounds total )

El-PRESIDENTE' (twice) non-IDPA ( 24 rounds total )

IDPA Qualifier practice. ( 90 rounds total )

" 258 total rounds needed"

Any other practice is optional.

Back at the house-Full Strip and Clean. (not field strip)
THEN a cool beverage and yack...
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All of this is with his pro teaching and training, with correction of mistakes and techniques as we go...

AFTER this round of training I will begin shooting IDPA and get one lesson a month from him...

I will have pics, possibly a movie or two if any are worth watching at this early stage of my training...

:D

Frank
31st August 2007, 10:53
Sounds like the start of an excellent training regimen. Good luck.

DVC

gottripletsNC
31st August 2007, 11:13
Sounds good to me, I'd love to have the opportunity for proper tutelige like that on a normal basis. Everything I have done is either via video, on here, reading in books, or learning by mistake which is usually a better instructor.
Remember tho, the harder this guy is, the better you will be. Especially when it comes to muzzle control, and trigger control.
The last range I went to, the instructor / owner said one thing that was burned in my mind. "A weapon is designed to destroy, you aim it at me, and I will think you plan on destroying me, I WILL shoot you, its no hard feelings, its reaction to a gun pointed in my direction." He was very clear on this point, and all day, there was absolutely no muzzle sweeps of anybody, everyone practiced the most responsible muzzle discipline I had ever seen.

Cthulhu
31st August 2007, 20:10
Wow, that's a lot you'll be covering, but it looks good.

I went over the range commands a bit, and dryfire practiced them on my own. My biggest concern was safety. If I did something I felt was wrong (like my muzzle discipline when loading and making ready), I stopped right there and started over from the very beginning.

Know the rules of the range where the match will be taking place. Where I shot, it's a cold range, so no handling of the gun unless in a designated safe area. The gun can be worn in the holster, but no mag in the gun until you're on the line.

The advice I was given, and read in multiple places, was to take it nice and slow, and that's exactly what I did. Don't get caught up on the speed thing and try to blast through the courses as fast as possible. Speed will come with time. If you are able, film yourself. I thought I did pretty good, and identified some stuff that needed work. After watching the video, I found a LOT of stuff that needed work.

Most important, have fun. I'm hoping I can make the next match here in Sept. Hopefully, I'll have ironed out some of my wrinkles when they have the next classifier here.

-JT

oregonshooter
31st August 2007, 23:52
Sounds like fun!
Movement drill with retention reload. ( 12 rounds total )

Let us know what this drill was about? Im interested if you are doing a RWR while running here.

As for IDPA/Defense techniques... just think about what you ae doing and common sense should prevail in your practice.

robertbank
1st September 2007, 14:22
If you can practice a lot of behind cover shooting, both high and low cover from both sides of the barrier. If you are right handed work on shooting from the left side of the cover. You should also practice your reloads behind cover as well. You will soon learn to stay back from the barrier and still maintian cover position. My worse sin is to get to close to the cover which slows you down when transitioning or doing a mag change.

Take Care and good luck, IDPA is about the most fun you can have and still have your pants on.

Bob

cruiserk
2nd September 2007, 23:28
Thanks guys for the good input.

Jim Avlord is my trainer, he was a cop, and a sheriff, then trained LE in firearms. Then he was competitive in competition shooting at the higher levels. He is also a gunsmith and built race guns for years.
(black belt in self defense also) When you look at him you don't see any of this, you see a kind man with a grey beard that lives in the middle of the desert.

He is tough as nails and a butt kickin instructor. I am honored to have him teaching me. I emailed him this thread maybe he will jump in and tell us what the
Movement drill with retention reload. ( 12 rounds total )

is...

Im counting the days...

He lives between Barstow and Vegas so we will have to start very early, as it will be 100+ before noon most likely... :nono:

Trippshoot
5th September 2007, 21:04
do any of you guys live in california

Frank
5th September 2007, 21:45
do any of you guys live in california
I do.

DVC

cruiserk
6th September 2007, 21:40
do any of you guys live in california

San Diego Area...

Cthulhu
9th September 2007, 22:48
How'd the training session go?

-JT

cruiserk
11th September 2007, 14:57
How'd the training session go?

-JT

It was awesome, I have video of my instructor, and a few pics.

I have been SUPER busy this week, so I will post up soon, this week for sure.

My instructor "Jim Alvord" (spelled his name wrong previously) is just amazing.

I have vid of him doing:
Move forward fire six shots
Move backward fire six shots
Reload practice firing 2x2x2

and a unique drill that is his... you will have to be surprised....

He says the speed on these vids is not fast, so they would be clear and help me with training, I think they are FAST !!!!

oregonshooter
11th September 2007, 17:27
Can you share the drill? Always interested in spicing up my training sessions.

cruiserk
12th September 2007, 22:17
I am in the process of uploading the drills to YouTube so they will be faster to watch and download.

Until then, here are 4 drills he had me tape.

Before I add links to the movies, let me say I am SO GLAD I waited and had training. After we did the list he gave me and had me do an entire qualifier, we resolved that it would be much better for me to go back to shooting without speed involved AT ALL.

So that is just what we did. By the end of the day I was actually on target again, and will now shoot IDPA but NOT worry about speed at all, just form and aim. The speed will come. I am a racer, always have been, and the speed part was just ruining my shooting, so out it went. Speed will follow function and form with much practice.

Here are the vids, he shot them "slow" all but the "Alvord" drill. Right click and save them to your computer, do NOT try to view them in your browser, it wont work.

This is the "Alvord" drill, in all of these he does not miss...
http://www.racernine.com/movies/Training/AlvordDRill.MPG

Reload Drill
http://www.racernine.com/movies/Training/Reload.MPG

IDPA 6 shots moving backward
http://www.racernine.com/movies/Training/IDPAmoveBack.mpg

IDPA Move forward 6 shots
http://www.racernine.com/movies/Training/IDPAmoveForward.mpg

Right click save em to your computer then view them. They are large files, when I get them on YouTube, I will post the links, they will load faster and view in your browser then.

Frank
13th September 2007, 01:58
... let me say I am SO GLAD I waited and had training. ...we resolved that it would be much better for me to go back to shooting without speed involved AT ALL....By the end of the day I was actually on target again, and will now shoot IDPA but NOT worry about speed at all, just form and aim. ...
That's so true. Get smooth first and then speed will come.

DVC

cruiserk
13th September 2007, 10:07
Ok, as promised here are the YouTube vids, even dial up can watch these without to much pain...

All of these are Jim Alvord shooting his Para widebody .45. He is a gunsmith and his gun is very VERY smooth and has various upgrades. He is shooting 230 grain FMJ .45 ammo. He says in all of these vids top speed was not his concern, but form, so I could watch and learn. He is VERY fast at top speed and at one time was a top pro. He is considering competition again.

IDPA 6 shots moving forward Jim Alvord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XJlSiUTkhM&mode=user&search=

Jim Alvord IDPA 6 shots move backward Drill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkLNEKTbvJg&mode=user&search=

Jim Alvord Reload Drill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7UDOiMGJyA&mode=user&search=

Jim Alvord Drill 1911 .45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qlvwsDsu8&mode=user&search=