Russian .45 ACP Ammo.

[DJK]

Fellow gunners,
Recently fired some Russsian made ammo thru my Commander. About every 15th round would fail to extract (partial extraction). The cases are alloy (grey) and they cause considerable fouling in the receiver/action. Since the pistol is pristine, I think the extractor suffered carbon build-up. this. Input is apprecated, and I would be particulary interested in the effect these alloy cases have (with what I perceive to be weaker rims). Thanks

[Hawkmoon]

It would help to know what brand of Russian ammo, since there are several. In general, though, the cases are not alloy, but steel. Steel rusts, so they coat the cases with a lacquer finish to prevent rust. What I constantly read is that when a barrel gets warm, the lacquer melts and gets deposited in the bore ... causing extraction problems.

At one time I had a brick of Wolf ammo for the .45. I had read so much about this problem that I never even tried it in my guns. I gave it away.

[Chuck S]

I've fired a couple thousand, maybe more Russian Wolf .45 ACP thru a variety of pistols. Only problem was a single light loaded cartridge out of a 2003 lot of the polymer coated case ammo.

On the older lacquer cases I used a propane torch and was unable to "melt" it off the case. (Fired cases, of course.)

I don't see any problems with it.

-- Chuck

[Rezmedic54]

yep Wolf is a dirty ammo I use it cause it's cheap to practice with. You just have to do a better job cleaning your weapon. Including the extractor. Hope this helps some

[shep854]

(I was looking for the obligatory Wolf thread) :p

I've fed my Kahr/AO almost nothing but Wolf, with no problems after close to 2000 rounds.

[vonfatman]

I've run some thru my G-21 and found it to be reliable and other than the odor...I don't see a problem. I reload so when I'm near home I shoot my reloads. I'd shoot more Wolf if I were in need of cheap range ammo. I never really "tested" the accuracy but we had no problem hitting our targets (just 20 yds).

Bob

[bnewt]

I've shot thousands of rounds of Wolf .45acp through my Kimber classic with no ammo induced malfunctions. I just shot an IPSC match today and over a hundred rounds of Wolf .45 through my new Wilson CQB. I'm pleased to report no malfunctions from pistol nor ammo. I've found it shoots to point of aim in both my Kimber and Wilson at the ranges used in IPSC and IDPA matches. In a Pistol class with the Kimber I got 8" groups at 50yds slowfire from a prone position. I'll use it until I hit the lottery and can afford an unlimited supply of federal 230gr Hydra-shoks.

[Pythonguy]

I was hoping to escape the obligatory "Wolf ammo" thread over here on m1911.org, but I see its everywhere. The lure of cheap ammo is too strong to surpress, sigh, I don't shoot it because better quality ammo isn't that much more, but after about 1,000,000 posts the results remain the same; some swear for it, some swear at it. The results never change. :eek:

[shep854]

You'd almost think we enjoy beating dead horses more than shooting. :D

[larry starling]

My friend and I shoot alot of wolf ammo and have had no problems at all! :o

[1927]

I put 500 rounds through my Thompson, and Colt Defender accuracy was good to very good.Even at 125 yards! It is a lot cleaner than Winchester, especially with a Cutt's compensator. My only complaint is I think due to the steel cases that it is hard on the extractor. With the newer polymer coating the build up in the chamber is a thing of the past. I haven't taken my Kimber out yet, still NIB.