New Sig

[73Driver]

I have recently been bitten by the "handgun bug" purchasing my first in February. I soon learned that I was more accurate with a 1911 than any gun that could be sold at a Tupper Ware party. I purchased the Kimber in May then bought the Sig 1911 yesterday. The local gunshop bought the last 5 Revolution STXs the distributor had after the shot show. The price was $999 "used". Returning home to clean and lub the gun before firing it, I think this must have been a display unit because it showed zero wear marks. I have now put one box downrange with zero problems. Both guns are more accurate than I, but that is what practice is for.

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[BTF/PTM]

Sounds like you got a good one. My GSR is unbelievably accurate when it's not jamming. Keep us posted, hopefully yours continues to be a fantastic gun :D

[Reconvic]

Congrats on that beautiful SIG I also own a Kimber Warrior and a GSR and they both work flawless. Great taste in pistols lol.

[Rich-D]

One bitten by the 1911 bug, there is no known cure! Best of Luck, with your new affliction. :)

[silversport]

hello...nice purchase...did you change out the trigger??? I have never seen an STX without the solid trigger...
Bill

[73Driver]

hello...nice purchase...did you change out the trigger??? I have never seen an STX without the solid trigger...
Bill
While I was inspecting (OK fondling) the STX after the purchase, I noticed the different trigger. It was the only one of the five that didn't have a solid trigger, luck of the draw. The shop owner didn't have an explanation, but it did make for a bit of conversation. I am still new enough to the gun community that I can fire the weapon safely, clean the weapon in just under an hour, but changing out parts other than the magazine is above my skill level at this point. :D

[silversport]

don't worry about changing parts...just enjoy the pistol...I like mine...there are a few more of us on here with STXs too.
Bill

[Reconvic]

I can bet ther serail number on yours is under 7000. That's when SIG started putting in the solid trigger, I also have one of the older SIgs which were all with Will's EWG and Caspain Frame guns , It now cost to much for SIG to install the high dollar parts so after they got great reviews, now they produce the new ones which I feel are a bit sub standard.

[BTF/PTM]

I can bet ther serail number on yours is under 7000. That's when SIG started putting in the solid trigger, I also have one of the older SIgs which were all with Will's EWG and Caspain Frame guns , It now cost to much for SIG to install the high dollar parts so after they got great reviews, now they produce the new ones which I feel are a bit sub standard.
maybe that's why my GSR blows :(

[silversport]

funny...and I thought the bad reviews came on Caspian framed pistols...anyway...they have only been making the TTT and STX about a year now and even the pre production pics had a solid trigger (but a manhole cover)...mine is solid trigger with no manhole cover...plus, the newest STXs appear to have a different ambi safety than mine...who knows...my trigger guy said all the parts were good just needed a bit of his fitting to make great...I like mine...enjoy yours...
Bill

[JonCombatCdrGSR]

Hmmm....My GSO62XX XO has the solid trigger-and the manhole cover; it's marked "XO" not "Revolution XO."

The reality is that SIGARMS used their parts on hand until they were depleted, and replaced by the newer parts. They've also made some "Special Editions" which appear to be parts-bin engineered guns, probably at least partially aimed at accellerating the exhaustion of the older parts. Frankly, I don't think that it's a big deal either way, so as long as the gun(s) function; over the past years, Colt has done similarly in their "O Series" (1911) production runs.

Best, Jon

[silversport]

...exactly my thoughts all kidding aside...
Bill

[Longslide]

Well my assessment is
It LOOKS GOOD
AND SHOOTS GOOD -
ummm TRIGGER different - no biggie. It is all cosmetic - I mean it looks good but so does my solid trigger look good to. What I like best about my SIGS is the REAL SMALL HOLE IN THE CENTER OF THE TRAGET.

That is what looks BEST to ME! :D :D

[73Driver]

Thanks for the comments and inputs...Reconvic the serial number is sub 5000, so that might explain the trigger. Friday I went to the range and put 250 MagTech 230 gr downrange. There was only one FRB and that was towards the end of the shoot, I ran a bore snake through and had no further problems. I did have something happen that is puzzling though...5 different times with different magazines, the slide failed to lock open after the last round was fired. Might this be a magazine problem, breakin issue, other ideas not thought of by the rookie? Thanks in advance for the further input. BTW...last 32 rounds..9 ring or better at 10 yards. Sam

[Longslide]

it could be the mag springs. what mags are you using? Silver can give you better input about this issues. Send him a PM.

[Reconvic]

73 Driver , you also have one of the better GSR's in my opinion with that serial number.
I also am with you on that serail number :) With a Actually having a FRB I would not worry about it will break in, actually I look for that sigh to check how tigh the pistol is, it will be perfect. Please do not take offense by I also you to train personal on handguns and found most of the time it is the shooters hand rasing the slide lock.
I have seen many shooters do it with a 1911, it poses as a bad grip. I would rule out mags if they were all different, wait till she is broken in before doing anything yet.
Sam once it is broken in you see them almost always in the 10 ring:) Good shooting Sam. Just with a unloaded pistol to see if it was even possible it was your thumb may have raised it. Longslode with 5 different types of mags I think there mag springs can't be all worn on a SIG, again please no offense.

[Longslide]

you are right unless they are all the same type/manufacture of mags. If different brands and bought at different times than not the mag springs. Not sure what it would be other than a weak spring for the miss feed on the last round or the follower not raising the slide lock lug to engage the slide for lock back.

[73Driver]

Reconvic, thanks for the input. I am going to do my 10 minutes of dry fire before hitting the sheets. I will check my left thumb location and proximity to the slide release. I had been using my left thumb low as a "backstop" to prevent my trigger finger from protruding too far across the trigger thus allowing my first joint to rest on the trigger. I determined that using the tip of my finger caused me to "torque" the gun as I squeezed the shot making the the hole to the left of the bullseye. I think my thumb my be resting on or near the release. Once again, thanks. Sam

[Longslide]

As Recon said - keep shooting it - I have found that many pistols just sort a "settle in" on day issues and all of a sudden the issue just disappears.

I had not thought about the thumb placement issue - that is an asstute observation - that would be a very logical reason for not locking back on last round.

The mags thing - Currently SIG is shipping GSR's with checkmate mags and even some of those have not run well - Sliversport had some issues as I recall. And earlier - ummm say this past winter - they changed from Novak mags.

Now I have two SIGs that came with check mate mags and one that came with Novak mags. Now get this - the novaks will work in two of the SIGS and not in the pistol they came with. The Check mate mags work in the pistol that came with the Novak mags and one of the ones that came with Checkmate - they do not work reliably but the Novak runs well. Wilson mags work in two but not the third. Go figure. :scared:

So by trial and error I got the right mags in the pistols they run in and it will stay that way :lm: But I do not have high round count in any of the three - about 500 each pistol. So I am assuming they will smooth out over time.

I have not had any extraction issues as others have.

AND THEY ARE SO ACCURATE that it is almost boring to shoot them. JUST KIDDING :D

[Reconvic]

My GSR is about 2 months and it came with Novaks. I use Wilson 8 rounder mags in them as well as in my Kimber Warrior Mags. The both eat both but I depend more on Wilson just is self lubrication and even looks i like, besides I never had a failure yet.

[73Driver]

While my investigation only involves dry firing but I think Reconvic hit the nail on the head. In the effort to stop torquing the gun during the trigger pull I raised my left thumb too far. I had it resting on the slide release, directly on the flat part over the pin that goes through the gun. I have practiced the the last couple of nights with the thumb lowered. Thursday night we have an IDPA type league shoot at the indoor range and we'll see how she does.

As far as magazines go I have the original Kimber that came with the Team Match, a KimPro, the two Novacs that came with the Sig, and one Wilson Combat.

Silversport, is the "Teddy Jacobsonized" you have the gunsmith in Sugarland TX? I found his website and it is only 30 minutes from my house and he might get two (one at a time of course) guns for optimizing. Sam

[silversport]

Yes that's him...I trust his work with my life and have had five pistols done by him.
Bill

[73Driver]

Time to show more of my ignorance, are these SIG STXs Government or Commander size? I read in one place the two sizes are interchangeable and in another one is 3/4 inches longer. Thanks, Sam :confused:

[silversport]

the STX is a full size/Government size...the size "names" come from the original Colt names for the different sizes...usually Government (full sized), Commander (shorter barrel and slide but full sized grip frame) and Officer's (shorter frame, slide and barrel)
Bill

[73Driver]

The local indoor range has league (IDPA sort of) night on Wednesday and Thursday nights. Tonight I shot the SIG and she preformed flawlessly. I ran a total of 350 rounds through her (100 warmup before the league) and had one FRB (about 275-300 rounds in) and it was when I released the slide while making ready for that round. Slight jiggle of the slide, she settled in, and never looked back.

Reconvic you were correct, it was my grip. I lowered the left thumb to make sure I cleared the slide lock and there were zero failure to lock back on an empty magazine. Thanks for the thoughtful insight.
I can bet ther serail number on yours is under 7000. That's when SIG started putting in the solid trigger, I also have one of the older SIgs which were all with Will's EWG and Caspain Frame guns , It now cost to much for SIG to install the high dollar parts so after they got great reviews, now they produce the new ones which I feel are a bit sub standard.
Looked at the other STXs at the range and the serial numbers are 10000 +

Placed 4th out of 13 shooters tonight (lost the first round, won 5 , tied 1, and lost two) can't wait for next week!!!! Practice, practice, practice.

Another rookie question...up to this point when I have cleaned the weapons, I do a simple field strip and clean the barrel, slide, and what parts of the frame I can get to. Another shooter showed me how to get to the firing pin and spring. How often should the firing pin / spring be cleaned and lubed? Thanks in advance....Sam :D

[Reconvic]

73 Driver , always glad I could help. I have been instructing about 30 years now so I sort of seen it all. 4th place is good, remember all are match shooters. Congrats on the Match.
PS. Depress the plunger on the slide and push in the firing pin and release the firing pin will come right out. Don't need to do it more then once a year actually.