How accurate are the Sig Target 1911s?

[grimloktt]

Does anyone know just how accurate the Sig Target 1911 is?
http://www.sigarms.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=25&productid=124

[Lucky1406]

I've read in magazines that they have been able to get groups under 1.5 inches. Some say that they've gotten closer to 1.25 in groups. All in all, it seems to be a very accurate gun. I can't wait to get mine in, just a couple of more weeks! Mine is that exact model shown in the picture, but with a trigger job(skeletonized), and an ambidextrous safety(tactical). Might do an ambidextrous mag release as well.
Nick

[grimloktt]

Thnx. Too bad they only make them in .45... That gets kind-of pricey.

[Lucky1406]

I have to say that I thought the same, till I checked at the local wal-mart, they have a 50 pack of blazer 45ACP rounds for $9.47. I couldn't believe it when I saw it, brass rounds and all. I used to fire these in my 9mm all the time, with very little problems. So now I can go buy 1000 rounds for around $200!!! Can't beat that. I wouldn't use it for anything but practice ammo, but it sure does help the pocketbook.
Nick

[John]

Man, some people here are good shooters, I definitely am not. :D :)

What's so important about how accurate the gun is? I mean let's say that this particular pistol is giving you 1" groups from a Ransom Rest, while the one next to it gives you 1.5" groups. What's so important about this?

The real question is: would you be able to tell the difference between the two, when firing them?

In my life, I've met very few people (maybe less than 10) whose shooting performance was limited by the intrinsic accuracy of their pistol. And all of them were members of the National Team.

[grimloktt]

Man, some people here are good shooters, I definitely am not. :D :)

What's so important about how accurate the gun is? I mean let's say that this particular pistol is giving you 1" groups from a Ransom Rest, while the one next to it gives you 1.5" groups. What's so important about this?

The real question is: would you be able to tell the difference between the two, when firing them?

In my life, I've met very few people (maybe less than 10) whose shooting performance was limited by the intrinsic accuracy of their pistol. And all of them were members of the National Team.

I "used" to be a good "target" shooter when I had time to shoot. Not that it's fantastic but I could shoot empty shotgun shells with my Dads old Jennings 22 from at about 10 yards...maybe more. (Eventually I'd like to get back into shooting bow again also. If I was aiming for an arrow already in the target, I'd say there was about a 50% chance I could hit it--that gets expensive :butthead: .)

Now that I'm starting to have that time back again, I figure I'd EVENTUALLY get something that's accurate--why settle? I was looking through the Sig catalogue and the X-5 looks NICE! I'd rather have a smaller caliber for more shooting anyways.

P.S. To answer you question, 1" vs 1.5" at 25 yards is probably not enough difference for me to notice... :)

[John]

Don't get me wrong, I am not attacking you or anything, but even though I am a louzy shot myself, I have the experience of coaching a National Team level shooter for some time. These guys (and gals, my ex was one of them), can shoot clover-leafs with their .32 S&W or .22 LR pistols all day long, and they can tell you where each one of their shots has gone, without looking at their scopes. Some of these folks reach a level where the intrinsic accuracy of their pistol is a limiting level. Please note I said "some". Not all of them have that capability.

And their pistols were specialized pistols with solid barrels, micro-adjustable sights, triggers, grips the works. For me, it just doesn't make sense to speak about such accuracy in a 1911 pistol, unless we are talking about specially made guns, used only for that purpose. For me (and that's a personal issue, mind you) almost any 1911 is more accurate than I am. So a 1" pistol, a 1.5" one, is the same as a 3" one. I will never ever reach the level of performance required to tell the difference.

[grimloktt]

No problem. If I'm shooting 6" groups with a 1.5" gun, then maybe I'll shoot 4" groups with a 1" gun. :D

[BC Mike]

My 2c is that a very tight group while not likely to be a factor for the majority of weekend shooters like myself, still gives an indication of the overall quality put into the firearm.

[Longslide]

SIG 1911 accuracy.

John I like your post about relative accuracy. As stated most of us are weekend shooters. some of us are competitive shooters.

For myself - as the years have passed - and the eye sight has waned - plus the ability to hold a pistol to POA with a ROCK STEADY hand - is the law of diminishing returns!!!

Having said that - SIG 1911 pistols are accurate. (we know not 1.5 inch groups at 50 yards - right) but they are accurate. Not any more accurate (relatively) than any other mid priced 1911 in my experience.

Can an old man brag a little? I can shoot a inch dot out of the center of the target at 15 yards with a SIG STX with 8 rounds on a good range day - and I can shoot a one inch dot with an RIA Gov mil spec. or an SA mil spec - or SA loaded or Taurus PT1911- etc and etc. (using group tite in a spray can of course) for all of these pistols!!!! :lm: plus or minus a few flyers!!! :lm:

So how much accuracy is enough to feel good at the range!!!??? So if one can shoot say 25 rounds at 15 - 20 yards (for me I can not see the target at 20 yards) - have a nice hole that you can cover with a silver dollar - that is a GREAT day for me!! And I would hope for most of us!!

Personally, I am more concerned about the pistol cycling 8 times reliably - and getting in the black.

For home defense - (I pray I never have to find out) critical mass is critical mass - as a LEO friend of mine would say.

[21tango]

I like the challenge of shooting the perfect group not that i can do it on a regular basis and not that it improves my chances in a gun fight. don't get me wrong most of my plinking is done at combat range (7 yards or so) but its just plain fun to set a target up 25 yards away and try for that perfect group! is it practical? no but it sure is fun.

[Longslide]

21tango

Somewhere in my memory I could see a target at 25 yards :lm:

But I know what you mean about setting a target out (as far as one can see it) :D and getting a good group. I have not set a ruler to a group in a long time. If the result looks good to me - than I am happy.

AHHHH to be young again!!!! :lm:

[grimloktt]

I have no worries for reliability when I need it to count...I carry a .45acp Springfield XD compact :D

[shoot5345]

I just got my new sig about a month ago. It is the gsr ttt gun.I have fired about 400 rds so far,.It dose not like my swc reloads,but feeds every thing else. I have owned about 25 1911 s over the years and I am very impressed with accurcy of this gun. IT is my duty gun,and I may have to bet my life on it one day. Best load to date is 200 gr honady xtp over 6.4 grs hp 38. 1049 fps. book.

[Reconvic]

I am going to compare it to my Match SAG 220 because that Sig is a tackdriver. I can hold with my match 2'' groups at 50' all day long with 3-5 shot strings . So far only 200 rounds have been fired from the 1911 and it is holding 3'' or better at 50. I expect it to get better as it get more broken in.
I will say I love the glass like break on the trigger and really the 1911 triggers can't be beat.