Stick a fork in...

[wetidlerjr]

me as I am done !

Another one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/wetidlerjr/Colt%201911/COLTCOMMANDER1991_051207a.jpg

ORM 1991 Commander

:lm:

Just got it today w/box and papers, lock, etc. Excellent shape;fired little; slight idiot mark.

(Please excuse the quick scanner pic. ;) )

[Spindly61]

Well done Bill, Nice looking pistol.

[daveohno]

Looks good! Fork and all.

[wetidlerjr]

Looks good! Fork and all.

Thanks ! I also have to report that the shop where I bought this informed me that Colt no longer produces anything but "Custom Shop" guns and that Commanders are no longer made so buy all you can find. ;)
(At least he didn't say Taurus bought them.)

[Hunter]

Very nice Colt. I like the ORM really. I have a fullsize and Compact ORM and they are excellent pistols.

[swampthang]

me as I am done !

Another one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/wetidlerjr/Colt%201911/COLTCOMMANDER1991_051207a.jpg

ORM 1991 Commander

:lm:

Just got it today w/box and papers, lock, etc. Excellent shape;fired little; slight idiot mark.

(Please excuse the quick scanner pic. ;) )

Who are you kiddin! You are far from done! Buyin that is!:D

[elijdub]

Very nice! Gotta love the Commander!
Can someone explain "ORM" please? New to Colt's, but not 1911's...

[Hunter]

ORM is original roll mark. That is the large rollmark on the 1991A1 such as above.
NRM is new roll mark. That is the smaller rollmarks found on the 1991.
I hope that helps.

[dogdollar]

Who are you kiddin! You are far from done! Buyin that is!:D

Hey Swampie. love the avatar. Looks like the hair implants are taking, after all. I TOLD you to just be patient.
T.

[elijdub]

ORM is original roll mark. That is the large rollmark on the 1991A1 such as above.
NRM is new roll mark. That is the smaller rollmarks found on the 1991.
I hope that helps.

Hunter, thank for the info. With the new addition to my stable (WWI repro) i'm trying to absorb the Colt "ways" quickly. Is there any other significant difference between the two? They are both produced in 1991, but with diff. rollmarks?

[Hunter]

Well they are similar. The 1991A1 was offered if matt blue and stainless. I believe some of the later 1991A1 were parkerized.
The 1991 was offered in stainless as well as blued. The 1991A1 was produced first and now the 1991 is the current offering. I have a 1991 in Super .38 and it is also an excellent pistol. The 1991A1 and 1991 line of Government Models from Colt are well built pistols.

[larry starling]

Congrats...Excellent find. I really liked the ORM's and they were generally regarded as being built from excellent quality parts.... :)

[elijdub]

Well they are similar. The 1991A1 was offered if matt blue and stainless. I believe some of the later 1991A1 were parkerized.
The 1991 was offered in stainless as well as blued. The 1991A1 was produced first and now the 1991 is the current offering. I have a 1991 in Super .38 and it is also an excellent pistol. The 1991A1 and 1991 line of Government Models from Colt are well built pistols.

Thanks for the info....much appreciated.
Eli

[clughog]

Nice pistol, Bill! Congratulations! Interstingly, I spoke to a guy today who had just bought a new XSE Lightweight Commander...he said he's sure glad he got it because the dealer he bought it from said Colt is no longer making Commanders. News to me! :p

[daveohno]

Thanks ! I also have to report that the shop where I bought this informed me that Colt no longer produces anything but "Custom Shop" guns and that Commanders are no longer made so buy all you can find. ;)
(At least he didn't say Taurus bought them.)
These guys must be listening to a Colt competitor's salesman. I'm always surprised that about half of the counter people at gunshops know nothing about Colt except misinformation. The other half are usually very knowledgeable.

[elijdub]

Well i for one am going to make a call to good old Colt and try to get to the bottom of this.... i plan on spending alot of money on Commanders this year!!

[OD*]

The 1991A1 was offered if matt blue and stainless. I believe some of the later 1991A1 were parkerized.
Ya got 'er turned around slightly Hunter, 1992-1994 were the parkerized 91A1s. ;)

[daveohno]

Ya got 'er turned around slightly Hunter, 1992-1994 were the parkerized 91A1s. ;)
See what I mean about those guys behind the gun counter! Half of them listen to the brand x 1911 mfr. sales reps stories and don't know jack, and then you have the other half, the guys like OD!

[jeff1124]

It's possible that Colt has finished the current run of Commanders and people are misunderstanding that. They do make the different models in "batches".

[jeff1124]

Oh yeah, Bill, I love your new commander, it's just like one I own, and the one tattooed on my arm!

[John]

PLEASE! PLEASE! A 1280x1024 picture for my wallpaper collection???

Tnx

[wetidlerjr]

It's possible that Colt has finished the current run of Commanders and people are misunderstanding that. They do make the different models in "batches".

It's possible but I just think it's ignorance. He said it like none would ever be made again. :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, Bill, I love your new commander, it's just like one I own, and the one tattooed on my arm!

Great but I think I will pass on the tatoo ! :D

[wetidlerjr]

PLEASE! PLEASE! A 1280x1024 picture for my wallpaper collection???

Tnx

On the way ! :D

[elijdub]

Just got it today w/box and papers, lock, etc. Excellent shape;fired little; slight idiot mark.

Just curious....were those "stock" grips on that model (with the wrap-around front strap)?
thanks, eli

[K9american]

Great but I think I will pass on the tatoo ! :D
el Commandante,

Now there's an idea for the forum paraphernalia shop - 1911 temporary stick-on tattoos. :cool:

[wetidlerjr]

Just curious....were those "stock" grips on that model (with the wrap-around front strap)?
thanks, eli

As far as I know. The gunshop owner bought this with other guns that came from an estate. He said it came with a non-Colt mag which he swapped out for a Colt one. Other than that , it appears to be unmodified.

[OD*]

Good looking Commander, Bill. http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

Can't say I recall seeing a 91A1 with an arched MSH and long trigger before, or hex head stock screws.

[wetidlerjr]

Good looking Commander, Bill. http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

Can't say I recall seeing a 91A1 with an arched MSH and long trigger before, or hex head stock screws.

Good eye ! I wondered about that as well. Screws are an easy change but most don't change MSHs. However, with Colt's habit of using what is available, nothing would surprise me. :D

[OD*]

However, with Colt's habit of using what is available, nothing would surprise me.
Very true, Bill. :D

[wetidlerjr]

Very true, Bill. :D

As info, my 1991 Government came with a long trigger.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/wetidlerjr/Colt%201911/COLT1991020506002Medium.jpg

[TattooPaul]

Hi Eli; comaprison, reaearch and shooting other brands will make it as clear as any other metho
d. Hy HD's aren't the fastest, etc. but the WHOLE packabe IS what I'm looing for with regards to certain models.

[OD*]

As info, my 1991 Government came with a long trigger.
Yep, all my 91A1s (3) came with long trigger and flat MSHs.

[John]

Now there's an idea for the forum paraphernalia shop - 1911 temporary stick-on tattoos.

Well, I haven't thought about tattoos, but stickers will be ready soon.

[jeff1124]

el Commandante,

Now there's an idea for the forum paraphernalia shop - 1911 temporary stick-on tattoos. :cool:

Temporary!!!! Tattoos!!! Those two words do NOT belong together!!!

[K9american]

Temporary!!!! Tattoos!!! Those two words do NOT belong together!!!
Well ya never know. Every time I see a gent with a tattoo that says "Rosemary Forever" or something like that I ask 'em, "So who's your Momma now?" The reponse I usually get is:


:bf:

or some weak answer like, "Oh, Rosemary's my daughter."

Yea, right.

So there may be a place for temp tats, after all.

[As a primary care doc I see A LOT OF TATTOOS and I tend to use them as conversation starters.]

[jeff1124]

Here's a pic of mine the way I bought it. Looks like the same trigger!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g207/jeff1124/comm1a.jpg

And here again with nicer grips!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g207/jeff1124/tatcmdr3a.jpg

[dogdollar]

My 91A1 - one of my very favorite pistols of all.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/6401glendale/Gun%20Stuff/VB4.jpg

[OneNineEleven]

Well they are similar. The 1991A1 was offered if matt blue and stainless. I believe some of the later 1991A1 were parkerized.
The 1991 was offered in stainless as well as blued. The 1991A1 was produced first and now the 1991 is the current offering. I have a 1991 in Super .38 and it is also an excellent pistol. The 1991A1 and 1991 line of Government Models from Colt are well built pistols.

I was under the impression that the matte blue and parkerized were one and
the same. Not so?

1911

[Hunter]

I thought that as well, but according to Colt they are different finishes.

[TattooPaul]

If I'm not mistaken the matte blue has to do with the surface prep and the type on bluing applied. I'm not sure it that type the blue is a gas-fornaced (with I thought was nor longer commonplace). Most parked finished are grey to green grey. I also believe the parked finishes, even the fine-grain, are coearser and hold lube longer.

If I am off base, someone plese set the record straight... _Paul

It's always a big plus on this forum to have those-in-the-know share wirh us so we don't spread a lot of well-intentioned but misguided info...

Someone please set this recoerd straight! Tahnk-you in advance!

[elijdub]

Hi Eli; comaprison, reaearch and shooting other brands will make it as clear as any other metho
d. Hy HD's aren't the fastest, etc. but the WHOLE packabe IS what I'm looing for with regards to certain models.

Heya Paul, I'm just breakin' out of "you-know-which-brand" mold now for the first time really (with the exception of a brief stint with a RIA). I'm goin' full steam ahead with Colt. I didn't know what i was missing!! The in-hand-fit is something i didn't know existed...like a glove!
I apologize, but i didn't follow.."HD's aren't the fastest"...? Can you elaborate? :confused:
BTW, did you see my find...?===>>> THREAD: Finally got WWI Repro...
:D :D :D
Eli

[TattooPaul]

Can't wait to see your new WWI Repro (can you spell "Gunny"?" - he's bound to rear hid mug asking for some current pics!)

They other referece pertains to the fact that my Harleys don't set the world ablaze it other catagories but the sum total of thier performance. I beleive that you'll find the fit and balance to be exceptional. Very nice!!!!!!!