Finally got My Repro, NIB + PICS..

[elijdub]

Well, after many days of bidding, offers, guns disappearing before i could buy 'em and so forth, i've gotten a hold of my very own COLT WWI Reproduction and could not be happier. I bought it on Wednesday afternoon (4:45 EST) and had it in hand by Friday at 11:00. The people at the gun shop, D & L Shooting and Supplies, based out of Providence R.I. were very friendly, knowledgable, and did good clean business. The cost of the gun (at $995) covered insurance and shipping, and they threw in overnight for FREE (maybe that's standard...i don't know). Either way, here it is in all it's glory. I'm a happy man! Now, if i can only keep from shooting it (despite my pals wisecracks)!
My first Colt (but not new to 1911's!) and i already have a bad, bad case of Coltitis! I think the only cure will be a Commander... :D

What classy packaging...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0505.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0515.jpg
The blueing is beautiful...!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0517.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0519.jpg
Out of 4000 (suppossedly)...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0527.jpg
The Pony...gotta love it!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0528.jpg
You can smell the Walnut...smells like history. And how 'bout that lanyard..? I can't get enough. The pollished flats look phenominal!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0533.jpg
ELI

[drshame]

Great Pix...Congrates!

Shoot it or Safe it?

I shoot mine and have never looked back. When you clean it and take it down..take off all your rings/watches/jewelry to avoid unexpected scrapes and scratches.

AND WATCH OUT FOR THE IDIOT SCRATCH!

Mine shoots mil-spec factory and hand-loads equally well and it's an excellent shooter.

Don't be overly critical of any "rough spots" or initial break-in concerns.

Range Report anytime soon???

[clughog]

Congratulations, elijdub! That's a real beauty you've got yourself! And, you're right, it'll only be the first of many. A Commander will for sure be a good "next" Colt...and you definitely have to get a shooter if you decide not to use your new WWI. I'm not shooting mine right now, but it's only because I have several others Colts that get to go to the range.

[Hunter]

Very nice Colt repo you have. I understand them to be real nice pistols.

[elijdub]

Thanks gents. I don't think i will shoot it for a time as i'm toying with the idea of a collection (i have a U.S. Winchester and some others)...i have a (dare i say) Kimber PRO CDP that is my CCW/semi-range gun. I just parted with my bread-and-butter RIA GI, so now i need a shooter. Looks like a series 80 commander will fit the bill! I just know that the repro would shoot great, but not today....
Eli

[larry starling]

Congrats....Excellent find. I personally love mine. ;)

[elijdub]

Larry, Out of curiosity, do you shoot it? I'm finding a little bit of both...some do, others don't. I can say that it's going to be hard not to! :butthead:

[bophi]

are they the grips that came on your repo. mine are just checked, not double diamond.., but my ns. no. is in the 45xx series.. i have not shot it yet.. as i have other 45's i can shoot. the are sure nice COLTS aren't they ??

[elijdub]

Very nice, indeed! Those are the grips that it came with. Beautiful walnut grips with nothing fancy (other than the obvious). They almost look un-treated! I'm kind of a Colt newbie so i'm not too familiar with the 45xxx series. Is that another repro?
They are fine, fine guns! I'm a convert...

[Joni Lynn]

I shot mine just a few days after I received it. Great gun, the fit & finish are really good.
Congrats on getting your repro!

[daveohno]

Beautiful, now you need a Commander!

[Blackhorse]

Very nice! I love those blue boxes. :D

[elijdub]

Thanks again! I love the presentation too...that was the reason for the pic! I can't think of anyone else in the biz that goes to that level of finish detail.

[OD*]

Congratulations, Eli. http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

She's a beauty.

The Pony...gotta love it!
You should find another one under the left stock panel. ;)

[daveohno]

Horsies everywhere!

But not one on my bright stainless super 38. :(

[OD*]

Horsies everywhere!

But not one on my bright stainless super 38. :(
Dave, be the only kid on your block to have a Custom Colt WITH a pony!! For $35 Colt will stamp your slide with the XSE version of the of the Rampant Colt.

[daveohno]

Do they really do that?

At least my bright stainless 45 has a Pony on the slide.

[OD*]

Why would I lie to you lil' brother?

That's what it's costing me. :p

[daveohno]

Which pistol are you getting the Pony put on?

[OD*]

I sent this one to Colt to have a couple things done to it and asked if they could put a nice horse (not the blind, deaf & anorexic pony) on it, like all Colt's should have. ;)

http://mysite.verizon.net/od45/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gsp.jpg

Paul Zamsky said yes, they could stamp (actually rollmark I believe) the XSE pony on the left side behind the cocking serrations. http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

[daveohno]

Right there where he belongs!

Ears, well fed and seeing just fine, like he should!

You know we got it bad, if the little critter isn't on the handgun, it just ain't right!

How come those cocking serrations are straight up and down? :D

[OD*]

Ears, well fed and seeing just fine, like he should!
This is the XSE pony (thanks Trooper Steve)
http://xtrooper.net/Colt_Pony.jpg

This one is the Blind, Deaf & Anorexic Pony
http://mysite.verizon.net/od45/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/blinddeafanorexic.jpg

How come those cocking serrations are straight up and down?
Unlike Hunter, the fella building it was probably sober. :D

[daveohno]

Egads :eek: .........................My Bright Stainless 45 has the skinny Pony........

On close inspection, I notice that the Stocks with Gold Color Colt Medallion has a particularly fat horse. Maybe that's how the other one got so skinny and ill formed, pudgy got all the food. :D

[OD*]

Bill Adair states on his web site, Colt has used at least 50 different Rampant Colts over the years. ;)

[elijdub]

The Pony...gotta love it!
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0528.jpg


Interestingly, the pony on the reproduction is similar to the "mangy" one in design (in terms of the lines), yet has a few extra pounds on him, plus eyes and ears! ...Looks pretty healthy actually! Is this the original design i wonder?

[OD*]

Eli, the Rampant Colt on the WWI repros are very similar to the original on my 1913/M1911, the pony on my 1940/M1911A1 is much more svelte. :p

[elijdub]

Eli, the Rampant Colt on the WWI repros are very similar to the original on my 1913/M1911, the pony on my 1940/M1911A1 is much more svelte. :p

svelte! :lh:

Got any pics? :dead_hors
:D

[OD*]

I do have pics, unfortuantly the ponys are not clear in either. :(

1913 Colt USGI
http://mysite.verizon.net/od45/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1913l.jpg

1940 Colt USGI
http://mysite.verizon.net/od45/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1940coltusgi.jpg

[JustinTime]

Great pictures, Beutiful Colt. I've had mine for almost 6 mos and I still haven't shot it.

[JustinTime]

Unlike Hunter, the fella building it was probably sober.

:lm: Bahwahahah. If I didn't know how ornery Hunter was I'd feel sorry for him.

[OD*]

Yes, a few of us here know the real Hunter Lee. :p

I sent him two really nice gifts last week and he hasn't mentioned them yet. http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/lmao.gif

[clughog]

Yes, a few of us here know the real Hunter Lee.

I sent him two really nice gifts last week and he hasn't mentioned them yet. Justin, did you tell Hunter about the "gift" you almost got for him yesterday at the gun show?

[d90king]

Congrats on your new Repro. Sorry about your delima below you will find my solution. ;) I guess you could say I am a big fan too :o . They are truly great Repro's :D I shoot one and will leave the other two boxed, I will say I almost get the same enjoyment from just wiping them down as shooting them. ;) I thought the one pic with the shadows was kinda cool hope you enjoy.
Patrick

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/DSCN0410.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/DSCN0400.jpg

[elijdub]

Patrick, those are beauties indeed! Three is the magic number.... I'm working on solving my own dilema with the same idea (maybe just two though, for now)! All of 'em look in such good shape that i can barely tell which is the shooter; the middle one of the top pic, if i had to guess..? Thanks for sharing.
Eli
p.s. my dilema is a fairly enjoyable one that will result in additional Colts!!!

[d90king]

Elijdub,
The shooter (when I say shooter it has less than 75 rounds thru it)is the top right pistol with the rim on the stock. It was a factory demo so it wasnt perfect when I got it.(a spot on front of the grip and only one mag and no book) They are great Repro's and neat pieces of history :D

Patrick

[elijdub]

I thought that one looked great! Your a lucky guy...
Just out of curiosity, there's one on Gunsamerica that says "98%..two mags fired..$850ish"... do you think it's worth it? I.E. how much of their value do they lose when fired?
Thanks, Eli

[d90king]

I thought that one looked great! Your a lucky guy...
Just out of curiosity, there's one on Gunsamerica that says "98%..two mags fired..$850ish"... do you think it's worth it? I.E. how much of their value do they lose when fired?
Thanks, Eli

Eli,
I would expect a gun that has only had a couple mags thru it would still be ln
closer to 100%. Here's the deal tho if you are looking for a shooter saving a few bucks is not a bad idea. I do believe that these guns will finish productions sometime very soon. When that happens I think you will see these guns trade in the 1000-1200 range.(some places are already getting 1000 now). I bought mine for 800 for the shooter( it was a factory demo) and 975 for my new ones that where low serial numbers. Good luck.
Patrick

[drshame]

"low serial numbers"

Would that be in the low 1000's?

Why would the lower numbers be worth more than any others?

Curious Minds want to know!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/drshame/OlderColt.jpg

[Joni Lynn]

If I happen to stumble upon another WW1, it may follow me home. I like mine better than most of the Colt's I've bought. Great workmanship!

[d90king]

"low serial numbers"

Would that be in the low 1000's?

Why would the lower numbers be worth more than any others?

Curious Minds want to know!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/drshame/OlderColt.jpg

Just opinion. :o Some folks me included will pay a small premium for having one of the early guns built. I wouldnt say that unless you are talking numbers lower than 50 that it makes that big of a deal. To give you an example, My gun guy has a Defender Plus in stock that is number 4 he wants in my opinion close to a 40% premium for that reason alone. The funny thing is he will get close to it even if its me that pays the premium :o The reason is he has something I want. A out of production gun that was built less than two years, new in the box with all papers with a very low serial number myself and some others pay more for that :D

Patrick

[d90king]

"low serial numbers"
Would that be in the low 1000's?


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/drshame/OlderColt.jpg

If you are talking WW1's very low 1000's would be early guns as they started at 1000.

Patrick

[d90king]

If I happen to stumble upon another WW1, it may follow me home. I like mine better than most of the Colt's I've bought. Great workmanship!

Joni I have been very impressed with the over build on all of mine. I do have one that has hammer lean and will be going to Colt, but the over all finish and quality in my opinion is excellent and very true to the original.(or i wouldnt have bought three) :o

Patrick

[cliff731]

... When you clean it and take it down..take off all your rings/watches/jewelry to avoid unexpected scrapes and scratches.

AND WATCH OUT FOR THE IDIOT SCRATCH!



Most excellent advice... "take off all your rings/watches/jewelry" ...

I've forgotten this on an occassion or two... and had one of those "Oh... :eek: " moments when I thought my carelessness caused a scratch.

One does learn from experience... :nono:

[cliff731]

Is it the lighting, photo exposure settings, or just my aging eyes... but do the grip panels on Eli's new M1911 "repro" appear to be finished slightly different than some of the others posted here?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/elijdub/IMG_0533.jpg

We've seen some with an border surrounding the checkering and most without this... and Eli's appear be slightly lighter in hue and to have a different sheen and finish.

Now, I'm not being critical by any means... Eli these are beautiful walnut grip panels and in my thinking are superbly authentic in appearance.

We have seen some variances. Maybe Colt is using different vendors for these grip panels?

[horse 91-A1]

Liked these first time I saw pics posted and these new pics aren't helping much. :) Must be time to put one on order.

Bob

[elijdub]

Is it the lighting, photo exposure settings, or just my aging eyes... but do the grip panels on Eli's new M1911 "repro" appear to be finished slightly different than some of the others posted here?

Hey Cliff, I was thinking the same thing. It almost seems (i think i said this in my original post) like they're unfinished. They have a real matte look to them...no sheen. If you take a look at the previous page you'll see a pic with three WWI's, the grips of which seem to be shinier. Like you said though, i couldn't be happier with it. I want another one to shoot!! The fit is incredible...i thought that it's have alot more slide play, etc. Satisfied customer here :D
Eli
BTW, i was playin' around with the camera exposure a little bit, and the lighting....still, the above holds true.

[elijdub]

Liked these first time I saw pics posted and these new pics aren't helping much. :) Must be time to put one on order.

Bob

Bob, sorry to be contributing to what i'm starting to understand is a wide-spread disease....COLTITIS!!! I have it myself :scared: :D
Eli

[OD*]

Colt uses several vendors for stocks, there can be quite a variance in colors and textures in the repro stocks.

[TattooPaul]

Congrats Eli! IMMEDIATELY PM me for my address so I can safely store it for you in my safe! Nice piece, wouldn't you say? If you have any questions - PM me. I'm glad you finally get to see it in person!

SWEET COLT!!!

[elijdub]

Congrats Eli! IMMEDIATELY PM me for my address so I can safely store it for you in my safe! Nice piece, wouldn't you say? If you have any questions - PM me. I'm glad you finally get to see it in person!

SWEET COLT!!!

Heck Paul, that's such a generous offer!
Thanks again for your PM help. You helped alot, answering my dozens of questions on my way to finding this beauty. I took "Paul's Colt-crash-course-for-current-Kimber owners" :D It really is a site to behold in person! I've been saying this for days now: i'm a convert! ===>>>>>COMMANDER :p

[cliff731]

Colt uses several vendors for stocks, there can be quite a variance in colors and textures in the repro stocks.

Hogue has a set of 1911 walnut grip panels shown in the link below-

Govt. Model Walnut Authentic Repro., Checkered (http://www.hogueinc.com/getgrip/merchant.ihtml?pid=942&lastcatid=185&step=4)

Possibly they're one of those vendors... unfortunately they don't list the LPI of checkering.

[cliff731]

Hey Cliff, I was thinking the same thing. It almost seems (i think i said this in my original post) like they're unfinished. They have a real matte look to them...no sheen. If you take a look at the previous page you'll see a pic with three WWI's, the grips of which seem to be shinier. Like you said though, i couldn't be happier with it. I want another one to shoot!! The fit is incredible...i thought that it's have alot more slide play, etc. Satisfied customer here :D
Eli
BTW, i was playin' around with the camera exposure a little bit, and the lighting....still, the above holds true.

That's a great recommendation, Eli.... and your photo skills were certainly up to par!!! Maybe it's time for you to start looking that second one to have a "shooter"!!!

[sprice1973]

That is a very nice gun! I would say i would have to shoot it ,couldnt stand not to !

[OD*]

Hogue has a set of 1911 walnut grip panels shown in the link below-

Govt. Model Walnut Authentic Repro., Checkered (http://www.hogueinc.com/getgrip/merchant.ihtml?pid=942&lastcatid=185&step=4)

Possibly they're one of those vendors... unfortunately they don't list the LPI of checkering.
That very well could be Cliff.

At one time Cylinder & Slide offered some very nice double diamond replica stocks with 15 rows of checkering between the diamonds, I went with them on my Adair restored 1913 USGI. I wish they still had them or would tell us who they purchased them from, they would be perfect for these WWI repros.

[BMR]

C&S has them, according to their site:

https://shop.cylinder-slide.com/ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.pl?usr=51F4855957&rnd=459899&rrc=N&affl=&cip=140.140.58.8&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=CS268&cat=12&catstr=HOME:57:12

[OD*]

Thank you, they had been removed from the site for quite some time, glad to see they're back.

[JustinTime]

Justin, did you tell Hunter about the "gift" you almost got for him yesterday at the gun show?

Yep, I told him almost bought him a Glock T-shirt. I can't type what he said.

[elijdub]

That's a great recommendation, Eli.... and your photo skills were certainly up to par!!! Maybe it's time for you to start looking that second one to have a "shooter"!!!

All i think about lately (not being able to shoot the repro and all)!! It's lookin' like it'll be the 0469(?) Colt Commander....i believe the only current Commander model in production that's all steel (no alloy...have that in my Kimber). Open to suggestions though...Commander-wise, that is. Maybe a series 70 Commander..?

[K9american]

All i think about lately
So Eli, how does your querida feel about this? Does she even know? :nono:

[bill may]

Sadly, the purchase of a Commander will satisfy your needs and desires for only a short time. Then, the urge strikes again. And who knows, when it strikes again, perhaps it will be for a Colt Gunsite (yes, they are still out there), or a Gold Cup. But rest assured, the urge will strike again. And again, and again...... As our members have often said, there is no known cure. Apparently, Hunter was inflicted with this virus first, and spread it to others via the internet. It is now a world-wide problem that can only be slowed when your wallet is empty.

[elijdub]

K9, Oh, she knows! ...well, that it's on my mind anyway. The obsession/coltitis...she just can't understand :( That's why i come here to the forum; in the hopes of alleviating some of my pain. :D

Sadly, the purchase of a Commander will satisfy your needs and desires for only a short time. Then, the urge strikes again. And who knows, when it strikes again, perhaps it will be for a Colt Gunsite (yes, they are still out there), or a Gold Cup. But rest assured, the urge will strike again. And again, and again...... As our members have often said, there is no known cure. Apparently, Hunter was inflicted with this virus first, and spread it to others via the internet. It is now a world-wide problem that can only be slowed when your wallet is empty.

Alas, i am aware that the "fix" is only a temporary one with the Commander. I have an incurable affliction...all i see are Colt Commanders in my future :scared:

[cliff731]

That very well could be Cliff.

At one time Cylinder & Slide offered some very nice double diamond replica stocks with 15 rows of checkering between the diamonds, I went with them on my Adair restored 1913 USGI. I wish they still had them or would tell us who they purchased them from, they would be perfect for these WWI repros.

Thanks, OD*, it might be kinda nice for the M1911 owners to know "who" makes these grip panels... just in case replacements are desired.

I saw those on Bill Laughridge's C&S site that BMR mentioned (hope the same ones)... thought they might be "correct"... they sure did look swell!

Cliff

[cliff731]

All i think about lately (not being able to shoot the repro and all)!! It's lookin' like it'll be the 0469(?) Colt Commander....i believe the only current Commander model in production that's all steel (no alloy...have that in my Kimber). Open to suggestions though...Commander-wise, that is. Maybe a series 70 Commander..?

Hey Eli, I fully understand how obsessing over a Commander (or any Colt) can be. It's not like you tried to think so much about it... it's that dreaded "Coltitis" bug... wickedly contagious... I know if you ever hold a Colt in your hands, the exposure to infection is almost a certainty, with no cure known to mankind.

Now, since it's established that you do have the "Coltitis", the symptoms can be treated... of course, no cure... but usually buying another Colt provides some short term relief... only temporary, mind you.

Fortunately, I happen to know where a good looking "used" Combat Commander is available... it's over on another forum. Shoot me a PM and I'll send you the link to it. She looks pretty nice... however I think Bud's had a NIB Commander for just a tad bit more. Maybe worth a look though...

WTS/WTT: Colt Combat Commander (Arkansas)

Colt Combat Commander, Colt wrap around rubber grips and wood grips, 1 mag, no box. SN# range 80**12XXX
Even though it has the number 80 in the SN, it is not an 80 series Commander, it does not have the series 80 parts.

Included are a Comptac forward cant paddle and IBW Gurkha Slide

Price: $775 Shipped.

Please don't quote me, but I believe Dr. OD* has traced the source of this "Coltitis" back to poor ole' Hunter... :p

:lh:

[cliff731]

Alas, i am aware that the "fix" is only a temporary one with the Commander. I have an incurable affliction...all i see are Colt Commanders in my future :scared:

The "Commander" strain of the dreaded "Coltitis" is the most virulent known to exist. Your wife and family do have my sincere condolences... they will bear the brunt of suffering thru this with you.

I've read our good John waxing on about his Commander fixations... no doubt he's caught it too... the poor guy is even begging for photos of Commanders... pity it's so contagious... all of Greece and western Europe will be devastated, as the supply of Commanders is probably nil over there.

[OD*]

I saw those on Bill Laughridge's C&S site that BMR mentioned (hope the same ones)... thought they might be "correct"... they sure did look swell!
They look even better on a pistol. ;)

http://mysite.verizon.net/od45/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1913l.jpg

[OD*]

Please don't quote me, but I believe Dr. OD* has traced the source of this "Coltitis" back to poor ole' Hunter.
Here on the forum, that is probably quite correct. As for myself, Hunter was but a lad of 6 years when I first contracted the aliment. :p

[cliff731]

Here on the forum, that is probably quite correct. As for myself, Hunter was but a lad of 6 years when I first contracted the aliment. :p

Well, OD*, there's the proof... it wasn't Hunter... I have misspoken and wrongly accused the gentleman... :o

I stand corrected and humbly beg his apology.

As for myself, also, I've had it quite a number of years... to many to mention.

[cliff731]

They look even better on a pistol. ;)

http://mysite.verizon.net/od45/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1913l.jpg

That, Sir, you are most right about... they do look exceedingly fine on that pistol!!! Come to think of it, the pistol looks great itself, regardless of what grips may be on it.

[OD*]

Cliff,

Hunter has probably been the biggest pusher of Colt products here. :D

[cliff731]

Cliff,

Hunter has probably been the biggest pusher of Colt products here. :D

OD*, you can't fault a guy for that!!! A man never has too many Colts.

[OD*]

Well said, Cliff. ;)

[Joni Lynn]

That goes for women as well. I need more Colt's!!! Lots more Colt's!

[elijdub]

The "Commander" strain of the dreaded "Coltitis" is the most virulent known to exist. Your wife and family do have my sincere condolences... they will bear the brunt of suffering thru this with you.

I've read our good John waxing on about his Commander fixations... no doubt he's caught it too... the poor guy is even begging for photos of Commanders... pity it's so contagious... all of Greece and western Europe will be devastated, as the supply of Commanders is probably nil over there.

Cliff, I had a feeling that i had the "virulent" strain. It came on strong, with no end in sight. Alas, i feel all i can now do is buy a safe and fill it up with purty blue steel! ...and my family!..my fiance has taken a "just don't bother telling me anymore" stance. Good thing for her that despite my affliction i can still pay the bills!
Now John, boy do i feel for that guy! Coltitis, and archaic, restrictive European gun laws (or so i'm told) taboot!
PM on the way. Why not...? Just another $700!!
Thanks for taking the time to verify my diagnosis. You may have just earned yourself a moniker....The Doctor!
Eli

[cliff731]

That goes for women as well. I need more Colt's!!! Lots more Colt's!

Right on, Joni Lynn... Right on!!! You just cannot ever have too many!!!

My only regret in life is that I have not enough Colts... that I didn't start buying 'em sooner... that I should have bought more by now... oh Lord, there's simply never gonna be enough... enough Colts... or enough time to buy 'em... :butthead:

Isn't all of Heaven covered by a blue onion shaped dome with a gold pony on top...??? :confused:

[elijdub]

Let us all hope so!

[cliff731]

Cliff, I had a feeling that i had the "virulent" strain. It came on strong, with no end in sight. Alas, i feel all i can now do is buy a safe and fill it up with purty blue steel! ...and my family!..my fiance has taken a "just don't bother telling me anymore" stance. Good thing for her that despite my affliction i can still pay the bills!
Now John, boy do i feel for that guy! Coltitis, and archaic, restrictive European gun laws (or so i'm told) taboot!
PM on the way. Why not...? Just another $700!!
Thanks for taking the time to verify my diagnosis. You may have just earned yourself a moniker....The Doctor!
Eli

Alas, poor Eli, the "doctor" has bad news for you, young man... your Coltitis is incurable... and quite likely terminal... pity your fiance... at least she's an understanding lass... but you can take heart in knowing that if ALL of Heaven isn't covered by a blue onion dome with a gold pony on top... at least there's a portion thereof reserved for those who succumb to the dreaded Coltitis. Take heart in that, Eli, and know that I have it from the very Highest of authority that Saint Samuel the Colt and Saint John Moses the Browning are at the gates to greet you. Our forlorn leader John, whom you spoke of with moving empathy, is in a state of wretched misery... he can only possess a meager amount of Colts... two is what I understand. Perhaps when he arrives under the blue onion dome his eternal rewards will be great as his suffering has no doubt been immense.

[cliff731]

Eli, PM sent to you... and I'm sure we've got some Commander experts here to answer any questions regarding the "used" Commander that chap is selling... still, there's undeniable appeal in buying one NIB... especially when it's cheaper!!!

[elijdub]

Cliff, Thanks! There seem to be many, many Commander pro's on board! ...so the one on bud's was cheaper?
...and upon our fearless leader's ascent i imagine the Saints blessing him with many Colts.. :D Ha,Ha!

[cliff731]

Right about that, Eli... all from the Custom Shop too... and all the Colts you desire, an endless ammo and heavenly radiant young women excitedly eager to... no, I guess you might have to load your own magazines... :nono:

Keep us posted... we're gonna be waitin' for pics of your "new" Commander!

[K9american]

Hmmmm. Coltitis. So that's why I have been lusting after a Defender, a WWI Repro, a blued Commander, a blued 70-Series 1991 and... a SAA 5-1/2" bbl .45LC, color case-hardened w/ black pony stocks.

Anybody beside me also covet the SAA?

I'm going to check the ICD-9 (Diagnostic Codes that your Doc uses for billing purposes*) and the DSM-IV (What the psych docs use to put a label on you when you go over the edge). Maybe Coltitis is in there already and I just missed it. If not, I'll make one up - probably somewhere between bipolar and obsessive-compulsive.

I'll tell you one thing I know about Coltitis for sure: there is no lab test, x-ray or imaging study that will aid in the diagnosis. The diagnosis is made purely on the clinical picture (symptoms). Epidemiologically speaking, I'd say we have an epidemic going on here. Maybe best to give the CDC (Colt Disease Center in Hartford) a call.

* e.g., 99213 = mid-level office visit, usually anywhere from $75 - $125 USD.

Wonder if BCBS, Aetna, UHC, et al cover this.

[elijdub]

I'm hoping bluecrossblueshield will pay for all MY new Colts (naturally the only known cure)!! K-9, although a look at the DSM-IV may help with the diagnosis, we ALL know the cure! I recomend a steady diet of: earning money, then going to gun shows, gun shops, online auctions, and our "for sale" forum....and spending it! Alas, i feel it's our only hope, with the exception of maintaining your active status with CA (colts anonymous, otherwise know as the m1911.com)! Best of luck to you all! :D
P.S. i'm currently working on a Psych minor at the University of NM...maybe i can be of some assisstance (i can certainly check the diagnostics and statistics manual-IV).

[K9american]

i'm currently working on a Psych minor at the University of NM...maybe i can be of some assisstance (i can certainly check the diagnostics and statistics manual-IV).

Hey, mucho kudos on the Psych minor. SWMBO has a MS in Clinical Therapy from Case Western U. Needless to say, we are verrrry therapy-minded in our casa. At least she likes shooting and recently expressed interest in having her own 1911 for CCW.

Let's see... UNM, Nob Hill? You walk to school, eh?

[TattooPaul]

Hey Eli - if you run out of storage in your safe I'd be glad to store some for you! Locked and even occasionally "maintained".

Better let me hold on that that WWI Repro for you - strictly for safety and maintenance reasons!

Take care, buddy - bet you leave a lot of other brands behind (not that they are ill-concieved or poorly made but Colt's are something in their own right)

Good luck with your Coltitis ;)

[elijdub]

Hey, mucho kudos on the Psych minor. SWMBO has a MS in Clinical Therapy from Case Western U. Needless to say, we are verrrry therapy-minded in our casa. At least she likes shooting and recently expressed interest in having her own 1911 for CCW.

Let's see... UNM, Nob Hill? You walk to school, eh?

K9, thanks! I started at PSU right after high-school...about 70 credits, then a much needed break. Back at it here at UNM...Nob Hill it is! Bryn Mawr and Garfield...near Hyder park and Bandelier elementary (although, lately i've taken to driving...off to work shortly thereafter; i own a local landscape contracting business). I was a social worker in VT for a while and like the therapy aspect of it. My goal is to eventually be in private practice. My soon-to-be mother-in-law is the assisstant director of the Psych Clinic at the University of Maryland...so needless to say, we are ALSO therapy-oriented.
One day i'll get my (law-school student) fiance into shooting (but no time soon!! let me tell ya'...!).
Question: SWMBO...obviously your significant other..but what's it stand for?
Eli

[elijdub]

Hey Eli - if you run out of storage in your safe I'd be glad to store some for you! Locked and even occasionally "maintained".

Better let me hold on that that WWI Repro for you - strictly for safety and maintenance reasons!

Take care, buddy - bet you leave a lot of other brands behind (not that they are ill-concieved or poorly made but Colt's are something in their own right)

Good luck with your Coltitis ;)

Ah, my good buddy Paul, who is always willing to help out in a pinch! You're probably right about the repro....i'll ship tomorrow. :D By "leave behind" do you mean overlook for purchase? If so, you're correct. I am trying to expand my horizons a bit, but how can you with all those Commanders out there to be had! Then you throw in a couple o' Kimbers and I'M DONE! I have a Winchester (investment 30-30), a Remington (SAUG 300), an Armalite '15, and a few no-names, but...for the time being it's NOTHIN' but Colts! Unless ofcourse an Ultraraptor comes my way for an exceptional deal.
I just can't get past the incredible feel of original specs! IMHO other makers don't even compare. I may love the look or features of another maker, but you're right; "there's something about Colts"!
Don't work too many hours now ;) Need range time to stay sharp!
Eli

[cliff731]

SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed :eek:

[elijdub]

Cliff,
Roger that!

[auto45]

Beautiful guns!

Anyone "notice" the lack of "finger scallops(cutouts) on the 1911 frame being a problem...if you have shot them! Problem means your finger is rubbing in that area??

I ask that because I have medium sized hands and I'm not even close to touching the frame in that area( I think)...meaning the scallops are of no value. The frame looks cleaner without them. Of course, if I could handle one, I'd be able to tell quickly.

Just curious whether they are needed for small hands or for someone that holds the gun different, etc!

[greco]

I shoot mine a lot...it shoots like it has eyes. My favorite 1911 (now I have 2 WWI's)...how can you say no..?? ;)

[elijdub]

Beautiful guns!

Anyone "notice" the lack of "finger scallops(cutouts) on the 1911 frame being a problem...if you have shot them! Problem means your finger is rubbing in that area??

I ask that because I have medium sized hands and I'm not even close to touching the frame in that area( I think)...meaning the scallops are of no value. The frame looks cleaner without them. Of course, if I could handle one, I'd be able to tell quickly.

Just curious whether they are needed for small hands or for someone that holds the gun different, etc!

I have not fired mine yet, but i have medium sized hands and when handled, don't seem to feel any uncomfortableness in the grip. My finger does rub a bit... but not enough to cause discomfort or to suggest that i'd have it any other way. I'm with you...i like the original "lines"! :D

[TattooPaul]

As far as the scalloped cut-outs, I think you'd need some pint-sized paws for them to make a difference. Seems like like wasted time and expence to me unless someone in the know can justify 'em for me.

Some folks have warned me about the hammer bite with the longer original hammer and shorter original grip safety. Yes, it leaves a bit of a mark but I have larger hands and the sensation is nowhere near a bite for me. I definitley like the long original hammer with the wider end and nice checkered surface. I'd rather see the grip safety cover the web by the thumb than the use of that shortened, narrow-ended serrated safety brought in around 1944. I do realize this expedited production during the war but I am one who actually likes the big original spur hammer better than many of the combat styles - easy to cock and I love the look - it does like to snag on anything in the way of a quick draw though... bummer...

[elijdub]

Hmmmm. Coltitis. So that's why I have been lusting after a Defender, a WWI Repro, a blued Commander, a blued 70-Series 1991 and... a SAA 5-1/2" bbl .45LC, color case-hardened w/ black pony stocks.

Anybody beside me also covet the SAA?

K9, what is the SAA? Great...another gun for my to pine over!

[OD*]

Anybody beside me also covet the SAA?
Yes! I have a few of those also. ;)

Eli, a SAA is the Colt Single Action Army revolver.

[cliff731]

As far as the scalloped cut-outs, I think you'd need some pint-sized paws for them to make a difference. Seems like like wasted time and expence to me unless someone in the know can justify 'em for me.

Maybe the "real" reason is lost to history. Perhaps today it's usefulness lies in quickly distinguishing a M1911 from a M1911-A1. :p

I don't discriminate here.... and like 'em both ways... !!!

Now, my ramblings aside, I'll bet that somewhere in recorded military archives exists a documented justification for those scallops... and the arched main spring housing and the other changes that were officially designated a M1911-A1. The U.S. Army just didn't often do stuff like that purely based upon some general's or colonel's whim, did they?

Where are our military historians when we need 'em?

[TattooPaul]

The arched MSH was to help raise the point of aim without a conscious effort. The scallops were to help trigger access from what I've come across in reading about the 1911's history and evolution (both on this forum and in books) - I'm sure there's a study somewhere that it helped with either small hands or with getting speedier finger on the trigger but I do wonder if the benefit is offset by the machining cost - usually they cut a corner (so to speak) if it didn't help significantly. They changed from checkering to serrations for that kind of savings. The military must really have thought they were worth the cost and time to put 'em on.