colt special combat gornment 38super

[d90king]

HELP just got off the phone with my gun guy. he had a two tone special combat coming in for me i am a 45 guy myself .turns out that this gun is a 38 super
i was caught off guard but still think i will buy it . any recomendations one vs others 45 vs 38 super? dont know enough about that load. my understanding is it is a solid round with less recoil.
thanks for all the help
patrick

[CherryRiver]

Man, whaddya want a loud, blasty thirty-six cal with expensive ammo for?
Does that help?

Bill,
Whose .45 SCG happens to be in the range bag at this very moment.

[swampthang]

Is it NIB or used? The guys here that have em , love em! I think the ammo is a little more expensive from what Ive seen, Do you reload? that would help with the ammo cost! Ive been very interested in the SCG ,but Im not close enough to getting one to decide the cal. yet! Id go for it !

[d90king]

thanks swamp i have 2 special combats in 45 in hard chrome but they are consecutive numbered so i have yet to fire. was told to put aside because of the numbering . any thoughts to that and does that really mean a hill of beans? my gold cup trophy is a 45 and i love it. recoil dosnt bother me a bit and is as accurate as a sig x5 that i have shot.and it is brand new coming from colt wed or thur.
patrick

[swampthang]

........ i have 2 special combats in 45 in hard chrome but they are consecutive numbered so i have yet to fire. was told to put aside because of the numbering . any thoughts to that and does that really mean a hill of beans?

I could'nt answer that ? But there are some very knowledgable folks here that could. Sit tight and Im sure they will be dropping by!

[d90king]

swamp great looking set of guns is that a blue gold cup i c and if so is it as easy to keep clean as most in that finish. thats one thing with mine that i dont like. it is work to keep clean in stainless. 30min to really bring back to par after only a 250-300 round day at range. the last inch on barrell gets dirty and takes work to rub out. once again great lookin set of firearms
patrick

[CherryRiver]

Warning- I am not a collector, no do I play one in gunstores.
Still, that consecutive numbered thing just might mean that you shouldn't shoot them.
I can't believe I said that. Usually, I consider not firing a functional gun akin to some sort of defect. But in this case, maybe you ought to try to hold back. I'm glad it isn't me, 'cause I'd be up to my third recoil springs already.
As for .38S ammo cost- compared to .45 White Box, I'd guess that if you have to buy ammo you didn't make, the .38S could be half again as much, or more. That's more of a reflection on how Wal-Mart and WWB skew the numbers, but they're still the numbers.
If you reload, it's pretty even. .45 brass is cheaper, but .38S bullets cost less than forty-fives.
Guess I'm still not helping.
But dang, buy a Colt if you can. I've only regretted selling them, not buying them. That food and electricity thing can wait...
Bill

[swampthang]

No , Pat the blue 5" ones would be the delta and the WWI repro, my GC is stainless, I really dont notice much of a diff. cleaning the stainless or blue. I use a very little bit of flitz when I have to.

[d90king]

Warning- I am not a collector, no do I play one in gunstores.
Still, that consecutive numbered thing just might mean that you shouldn't shoot them.
I can't believe I said that. Usually, I consider not firing a functional gun akin to some sort of defect. But in this case, maybe you ought to try to hold back. I'm glad it isn't me, 'cause I'd be up to my third recoil springs already.
As for .38S ammo cost- compared to .45 White Box, I'd guess that if you have to buy ammo you didn't make, the .38S could be half again as much, or more. That's more of a reflection on how Wal-Mart and WWB skew the numbers, but they're still the numbers.
If you reload, it's pretty even. .45 brass is cheaper, but .38S bullets cost less than forty-fives.
Guess I'm still not helping.
But dang, buy a Colt if you can. I've only regretted selling them, not buying them. That food and electricity thing can wait...
Bill

you have been a help. i am here to learn as much as i can .and there are a lot of poeple who know much more than i.the variance in cost with ammo shouldnt b a big deal to me as the 38s will split time with gold cup and carry defender at the range. sad part bout numbered guns is i was buying second to shoot so i could lay one down and shoot other imagine that.it was just dunb luck and a bad distributor.
patrick

[daveohno]

I have 2 Super 38's. The carry ammunition is kind of pricey, I use Silver Tips, I believe they were about $30 for a box. I have found ammunition at Natchez Shooting Supplies that was pretty reasonably priced. If you reload, Super 38 isn't that expensive. The Super is fun to shoot, it makes a bit of noise but it is manageable. It's less powerfull than a 357 magnum, but much hotter than a 38 Special. The super is fun to shoot, you should like it.

[d90king]

No , Pat the blue 5" ones would be the delta and the WWI repro, my GC is stainless, I really dont notice much of a diff. cleaning the stainless or blue. I use a very little bit of flitz when I have to.

im shooting remington umc 230gr could that b it?. i did think it was unusual to.how do u like the ww1 repro? i passed on one with nick out of metal on grip this am. should have a new one in around two weeks. is 950 new a good buy?the factory sample was 800. thanks for all the help. off to shoot new defender c how she is from 15 and in.
patrick

[swampthang]

Pat ,I reload and shoot lead so its dirtier than the FMJ, The repro is a real good shooter,as is all them ponies. I would guess 950 is about the going rate NIB give or take $

[Joni Lynn]

The SCG in 38 Super should be nice. It's a bull barrel (with bushing) so it may weigh a bit more than a 45.

[d90king]

back from the range first off the defender. has anybody experienced ejector issues in the past with this gun? i took three to the head and one to ear protection.very accurate gun i will say for a shorty only went to ten yards b/c of all the ducking and diving .a bit un nerving when shooting. broke her in with 150 for the night and that was it.i was told it should break in a bit but was sooo severe im not so sure.not sure if it is all because of length or if i have a problem.second my guy got into today a gun that seems well under the money. i had him put it aside till my scg comes in so can do both at once
it was a blue series 80 govt model that was very well cared for two grips all boxes books #fg75591 he gave it to me for 500. seemed cheap am i wrong?
swamp,colt,joni,cherryriver any thoughts
patrick

[Joni Lynn]

$500 is probably a fair price if it's in good shape.

[CherryRiver]

If you bought a 1991 GM in very good or better condition with the box and you only paid $500, I would say your post could be used as evidence of robbery.
Nice grab. I just paid $700 for a brand new one in the box and it turned out to be one of the best guns I ever owned, right up there with my beloved '59 Colt .357.
My Commander used to bonk me in the head all the time, and when I changed the ejector to a wrong one, the bonking stopped. The gun ran a good 3000 rounds without problems since then (except for the occasional defective handloads of mine).
A light little gun like the Defender takes a good, strong grip to function just right, including ejection. I'm sure you already know that, but sometimes you can make a little change and get big results.
Bill

[d90king]

If you bought a 1991 GM in very good or better condition with the box and you only paid $500, I would say your post could be used as evidence of robbery.
Nice grab. I just paid $700 for a brand new one in the box and it turned out to be one of the best guns I ever owned, right up there with my beloved '59 Colt .357.
My Commander used to bonk me in the head all the time, and when I changed the ejector to a wrong one, the bonking stopped. The gun ran a good 3000 rounds without problems since then (except for the occasional defective handloads of mine).
A light little gun like the Defender takes a good, strong grip to function just right, including ejection. I'm sure you already know that, but sometimes you can make a little change and get big results.
Bill
can u tell that by the #?i thought it was cheap and when i tell you the gun is well cared for it looks new.still not sure how to fix defender i will give it another few hundred rounds and see if im alive.
thanks again guys u r all a big help

[swampthang]

Id agree with the above posts

[Joni Lynn]

So when I got my series 70 Gov't for $275 was it worse than robbery? I only asked how much and then asked if he was sure about the price..............then paid him. Doh!!! I didn't think of it as robbery!!??!!

[CherryRiver]

I can only imagine the shame of buying a 70 GM for $275.
I say I can only imagine it because THAT KIND OF THING NEVER HAPPENS TO ME!
Shucks, I'll never get charged with robbery, armed robbery, or highway robbery. The best I ever can do is mopery with intent to gawk.
(Credit to fellow Chicagoan Mike Royko, there.)

Bill,
Green

[Joni Lynn]

Well, if it helps any I've given him a few really good deals as well.

[d90king]

geez joni do u sleep well at night ? i do think my guy is just taking care of me b/c of the amount of guns i have bought in short period of time . he also sold me a all american 2000 9mm that is perfect with everything for 300 when i bought my last scg. i think its just good business if he takes care of me now he will see me in the future.

[CherryRiver]

Joni, if there was a camera on top of my monitor here, you'd be seeing real tears.
I don't get too weepy too often, but good '70s Colt 1911s for under $500?
I break right down and go to pieces.
Wahhh.
Bill

[Joni Lynn]

That wasn't from my dealer, but he gives me a good deal usually as well.
I sleep just fine thanks.............I sold the guy a NIB Winchester 52B reproduction for $300 and he didn't complain about his sleep either.

[TattooPaul]

Up front let me add that I do not yet own a .38 Super but I most definitely WILL in the near future. What I know about the round is that is a flat shooting, snappy round that is excelllent for accuracy and has a muzzle velocity about 100 fps less than a .357 Magnum. It has quite a nice bark to it. I have heard two of them at the range and I loved it! Ammo can be a bit more expensive and less prevalent than others but handloading would solve any issue. Once you find a source you can keep going to the well. The SCG is a drop-dead gorgeous format and I think you'd find having one in .38 Super to be pretty darn cool. Just my 2 cents...

[d90king]

thanks tatt paul . it should be in wed or thur cant wait to shoot.i like more after thinking bout it also because it is different than the two scg i have already in 45.and from talking to others should be a great target round very fast but a little loud.
thanks
patrick

[horse 91-A1]

So when I got my series 70 Gov't for $275 was it worse than robbery? I only asked how much and then asked if he was sure about the price..............then paid him. Doh!!! I didn't think of it as robbery!!??!!

Somehow me thinks I'm hangin' out on the wrong corner. :sd:

Bob

[Jim D]

can u tell that by the #?i thought it was cheap and when i tell you the gun is well cared for it looks new.still not sure how to fix defender i will give it another few hundred rounds and see if im alive.
thanks again guys u r all a big help
Patrick...all you should have to do is reprofile the tip of the ejector...what forces the brass out, and determines the angle at which it leaves the gun.

I've seen Glocks, a handfull of 1911's, and a few others all do this...changing out the ejector always fixed the problem.

The Defender is a used gun...yes? You shouldn't feel too bad about swapping out the ejector on it...the store you bought it from might be able to do it for you. Shouldn't be more than $50 when it's all said and done. It's a easy fix, and you can always put the origional ejector back in, should a colt collector want it for some reason.

Cheers,
Jim